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This is absolutely incredible...and only twenty bucks!?!
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I'm curious if the mono "album" version of "With a Little Help From My Friends" will play at Bruce's original intended speed (with "slow" vocal), while it's the stereo mix that has been re-done? I would assume that's the likelihood if they're pulling the "Lei'd In Hawaii" album proper from an original, vintage mix/tape.
I'm curious as well if they did the new mix of "With a Little Help.." by keeping the backing track at the same speed and then altering Bruce's voice digitally to keep it in the same key but sounding "speeded up" so to speak. It has been ages since I listened to it, but the "Rarities" version of the song was in the original (Beatles) key, so it was indeed always the "speed" of Bruce's voice that sounded off more than anything else. So I would imagine they'd be able to digitally "speed up" Bruce's voice but keep it at the same pitch and then also essentially "stretch" it so that it still fits the tempo of the same backing track.
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Quote from: HeyJude on May 23, 2017, 10:00:42 AM
I'm curious if the mono "album" version of "With a Little Help From My Friends" will play at Bruce's original intended speed (with "slow" vocal), while it's the stereo mix that has been re-done? I would assume that's the likelihood if they're pulling the "Lei'd In Hawaii" album proper from an original, vintage mix/tape.
I'm curious as well if they did the new mix of "With a Little Help.." by keeping the backing track at the same speed and then altering Bruce's voice digitally to keep it in the same key but sounding "speeded up" so to speak. It has been ages since I listened to it, but the "Rarities" version of the song was in the original (Beatles) key, so it was indeed always the "speed" of Bruce's voice that sounded off more than anything else. So I would imagine they'd be able to digitally "speed up" Bruce's voice but keep it at the same pitch and then also essentially "stretch" it so that it still fits the tempo of the same backing track.
Here you go:
This is the "slow" version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwqH4bj1zfw
And a speed corrected version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc8mRRZvNwA
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Beach Boys Unearth Rare Songs for 'Sunshine Tomorrow' Set
Band will explore post-'Pet Sounds' era with alternate takes, live recordings from 'Wild Honey,' 'Smiley Smile' sessions
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beach-boys-unearth-rare-songs-for-sunshine-tomorrow-set-w483761
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The "speed corrected" version still doesn't sound right to me. Unless Bruce used a weird singing technique. "Whaaaaat would you thhhhiiinnnnkkk if I saaaaang out of tuuuuunnnneeeee would you stttttaaaannnd up and waaaaalllllllkkkk oooouuuuutttt oooooooonnnnnnnn mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee".
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Quote from: Rocker on May 23, 2017, 09:35:27 AM
Wow! Reading it like this makes it even more exciting!
So true. Knowing the details makes it so much more exciting now!
Particularly interested to hear a few of the tunes, such as what the alternates of "Lonely Days", "Cool Cool Water" and "Can't Wait Too Long" are. Is it possible a full "Lonely Days"? That'd be neat. And "Cool Cool Water"....it's longer than the 1993 box set version. I wonder if it has that "Child Is Father Of The Man" progression incorporated? And with "Can't Wait Too Long" I'm wondering if this is maybe a version that was found in the vaults as is? Or maybe it's a version with only 1967 work on it? And none of the work that Brian did on it during 1968 nor any of the sweetening apparently done during the
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Also interested to hear how "All Day All Night" differs from "Whistle In" and of course I'm intrigued to see what "Honey Get Home" and "Hide Go Seek" are, and if they truly did have finished instrumental masters, that for whatever reason weren't used for vocals.
Also, I wonder if the mono mix of "The Letter" is the same as the mono mix issued on
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Lastly, with "Surf's Up" I'm assuming that it's probably a few false starts and session chatter followed by a complete take. Although who knows? We'll find out soon enough!
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
The "speed corrected" version still doesn't sound right to me. Unless Bruce used a weird singing technique. "Whaaaaat would you thhhhiiinnnnkkk if I saaaaang out of tuuuuunnnneeeee would you stttttaaaannnd up and waaaaalllllllkkkk oooouuuuutttt oooooooonnnnnnnn mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee".
It still sounds like it is just a smidge slow still (if slow vs. fast are the terms we're using here). I realize this sits low in Bruce's range, but this still doesn't quite sound natural.
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I'm wondering if "Can't Wait To Long" has sections we've never heard before, or if the 1967 version of Surf's Up is an alternate take from the demo session. I noticed it has a run time of over five minutes.
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The surf's up take is probably the full run-through BW did while tuning the piano for wild honey.
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Quote from: RubberSoul13 on May 23, 2017, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
The "speed corrected" version still doesn't sound right to me. Unless Bruce used a weird singing technique. "Whaaaaat would you thhhhiiinnnnkkk if I saaaaang out of tuuuuunnnneeeee would you stttttaaaannnd up and waaaaalllllllkkkk oooouuuuutttt oooooooonnnnnnnn mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee".
It still sounds like it is just a smidge slow still (if slow vs. fast are the terms we're using here). I realize this sits low in Bruce's range, but this still doesn't quite sound natural.
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't sound natural or "right".
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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on May 23, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
The surf's up take is probably the full run-through BW did while tuning the piano for wild honey.
I think I read that Brian did four or five "takes", with none of them being complete.
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I am so excited for this set!
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
Quote from: SMiLE Brian on May 23, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
The surf's up take is probably the full run-through BW did while tuning the piano for wild honey.
I think I read that Brian did four or five "takes", with none of them being complete.
I can't wait for this... the perfect set sans a possible Friends box set.
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Defiantly buying it!
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So excited
Big, Big , BIG thank you to all involved.
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I am so happy about this release! I'll be buying both the CD set and the stereo WH LP.
Thanks to all involved.
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Quote from: sweetdudejim on May 23, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
Is it possible a full "Lonely Days"? That'd be neat.
No it was built using the recording we know by having in instrumental pass of just the track without vocal.
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: RubberSoul13 on May 23, 2017, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
The "speed corrected" version still doesn't sound right to me. Unless Bruce used a weird singing technique. "Whaaaaat would you thhhhiiinnnnkkk if I saaaaang out of tuuuuunnnneeeee would you stttttaaaannnd up and waaaaalllllllkkkk oooouuuuutttt oooooooonnnnnnnn mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee".
It still sounds like it is just a smidge slow still (if slow vs. fast are the terms we're using here). I realize this sits low in Bruce's range, but this still doesn't quite sound natural.
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't sound natural or "right".
This is probably close to the original speed re: Bruce's vocal:
https://soundcloud.com/smileyhoneyfriends-1/with-a-little-help-from-my-friends-speed-corrected
I have no idea how they could get the track/BGV's and Bruce's vocal to all be at the same speed without some weird digital pitch/speed correction.
Looking forward to this new set and eagerly await another one for Friends next year!
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Completely unexpected, delightful, superb, and wonderful -
who'd a thunk it?
With my Smiley Smile stereo disk, this is just a fantastic new perspective on the era.
By popular demand, there will no doubt be a
Friends
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(BTW, I just looked at the site of my local retailer. ST isn't up there yet, but I spotted a funny unintended gag:
the Japanese version of a certain BBs album was titled:
Stuck O'Trucks
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I've been wondering for 20 mins. now whatever that could mean?
Whoever has an idea, please let me know!)
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29. Heroes And Villains (Rehearsal) (4:45)
Hey, wait, hold on. Forgive me if I've got confused, but could this be the version with the Mike monologue?
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Quote from: The Heartical Don on May 24, 2017, 02:38:05 AM
the Japanese version of a certain BBs album was titled:
Stuck O'Trucks
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I've been wondering for 20 mins. now whatever that could mean?
Whoever has an idea, please let me know!)
Hi, Don.
If your local retailer is Dutch, it sounds to me like a case of mistaken pronunciation somewhere down the line. Like "wraps" being mispronounced "frups".
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Quote from: JK on May 24, 2017, 04:12:28 AM
Quote from: The Heartical Don on May 24, 2017, 02:38:05 AM
the Japanese version of a certain BBs album was titled:
Stuck O'Trucks
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I've been wondering for 20 mins. now whatever that could mean?
Whoever has an idea, please let me know!)
Hi, Don.
If your local retailer is Dutch, it sounds to me like a case of mistaken pronunciation somewhere down the line. Like "wraps" being mispronounced "frups".
Ah! Cheers JK -
one of those occasions where I think: I should've thought of it...
...now, I hear a German voice in my fantasy, shouting out the infamous English four letter word... he or she actually pronounces that very near to what: 'f-ah-k' sounds like in our ears. So in a sense, the 'a' and 'u' are perhaps easily interchangeable, when one thinks visually.
Stick O'Tricks? Stock O'Trocks? Steck O'Trecks?
I get confused...
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
The "speed corrected" version still doesn't sound right to me. Unless Bruce used a weird singing technique. "Whaaaaat would you thhhhiiinnnnkkk if I saaaaang out of tuuuuunnnneeeee would you stttttaaaannnd up and waaaaalllllllkkkk oooouuuuutttt oooooooonnnnnnnn mmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee".
It still sounds like it is just a smidge slow still (if slow vs. fast are the terms we're using here). I realize this sits low in Bruce's range, but this still doesn't quite sound natural.
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't sound natural or "right".
This is probably close to the original speed re: Bruce's vocal:
https://soundcloud.com/smileyhoneyfriends-1/with-a-little-help-from-my-friends-speed-corrected
I have no idea how they could get the track/BGV's and Bruce's vocal to all be at the same speed without some weird digital pitch/speed correction.
Looking forward to this new set and eagerly await another one for Friends next year!
It looks like both version of "With a Little Help..." have the same running time on the new set, and these running times pretty much match up with the "old" version of the song as heard on "Rarities."
So if they've fixed Bruce's vocal, then some sort of digital pitch correction or digital time stretching was likely used, as the song would indeed be significantly shorter if they were just speeding up the tape to make Bruce's voice correct. Howie has already mentioned that they didn't simply speed the entire tape up.
That Soundcloud clip indeed sounds like it's probably pretty close to what Bruce's voice should sound like.
The question is, what speed was everything originally recorded in (and thus, what key did they record the backing track in, and what key did they intend?).
One scenario is that they recorded the backing track (and perhaps backing vocals?) in its original key as heard on "Rarities", and then Bruce speeded up the tape and then recorded his lead vocal so that when the song was slowed down back to its original speed, his voice and his voice alone would "sound slow." Howie has mentioned that it wasn't a production/mastering error that led to his weird voice but rather Bruce's choice of slowing his voice down. I'm curious to know *when* in the process of recording that Bruce decided he didn't like his own voice and decided he would slow it down. If it was during rehearsals prior to recording, then he could have indeed planned in advance to record the backing track, and then speed the tape up to cut his vocal so that it would sound "slower/lower" when returned to normal speed. So that's all just one scenario.
Another scenario is that the BB's *didn't* record the backing track in its original key as heard on "Rarities", but instead recorded it in a higher key at a faster tempo. Bruce would then have added his lead, and then both the backing track and his lead would be in a lower key and slower when the tape was slowed down. Perhaps it was at this "slower" speed that BB backing vocals were added, leading to *something* always being off speed when played back at either a slow or fast speed.
It appears the running time on all versions (both versions on the new set and the old "Rarities" version) have the same running time more or less, which presumably means all versions will have the same tempo. If Scenario #2 above is true, then they would need to then raise the pitch on the lead vocal and backing track while leaving the backing vocals and tempo the same, or "speed up" the entire thing but then pitch correct the backing vocals without making them sound "sped up". I don't think the latter is possible given the running time of the song on the new set. If Scenario #1 above is true, they would need to only pitch correct or "speed up" the lead vocal but then stretch it back out so it matches the tempo of the backing track.
Or, I don't know what I'm talking about!
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Does anyone else really envision this as a three disc box, with the first disc having already been released for a few years?
Disc One: Smiley Mono and Stereo CD (although I may begin with the stereo at Track 12 for my personal listening experience)
Disc Two: Smiley Sessions and Outtakes, Lei'd in Hawaii, etc.
Disc Three: Stereo Wild Honey, Wild Honey outtakes, etc.
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