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Author Topic: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set?  (Read 56283 times)
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« Reply #525 on: July 04, 2017, 10:08:27 AM »


Why did this jackass bother? This is pure Internet "lack of content" content.


Robert Ham, vying to be the millennial's answer to Robert Christgau, but too busy recycling old myths and getting basic facts wrong as he attempts to perfect the age-old "hand-wringing" style of criticism that leans heavily on the dubious perspective of Yawn Wenner some fifty years ago.

BTW, Bob Christgau's Consumer Guide grade for WILD HONEY: A+.
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« Reply #526 on: July 04, 2017, 10:19:37 AM »


Clickbait, I imagine
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« Reply #527 on: July 04, 2017, 10:27:08 AM »

I agree with you, Don, that Paste Magazine review relies too much on recycled mythology. The reviewer also made factual errors, moving Brian's Bellagio, Bel Air studio to Malibu, for one example.
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« Reply #528 on: July 04, 2017, 10:47:14 AM »


Why did this jackass bother? This is pure Internet "lack of content" content.


Robert Ham, vying to be the millennial's answer to Robert Christgau, but too busy recycling old myths and getting basic facts wrong as he attempts to perfect the age-old "hand-wringing" style of criticism that leans heavily on the dubious perspective of Yawn Wenner some fifty years ago.

BTW, Bob Christgau's Consumer Guide grade for WILD HONEY: A+.

Also worth noting is the sometimes cranky Robert Christgau gave the *2004* "Smile" album a RAVE review! I could have easily seen him panning that one, but he gave it a five star (or A+) review!
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« Reply #529 on: July 04, 2017, 11:36:10 AM »

I am absolutely in love! I had to do a LOT of searching today to find it as I was, ironically enough, at the beach all week! My local record store didn't get it (very strange for them) so I tried Best Buy...nothing. Target...nothing. Finally, Barnes and Noble had ONE copy. Success!
I had the same experience in Plattsburgh, NY. Best Buy, nope. Target, nope. Walmart- hidden in the B section. Not even in the new music section.
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« Reply #530 on: July 04, 2017, 11:42:50 AM »

I want to hold this little gem when it arrives today or tomorrow.
Delayed for a week! Thud

Still, there are so many great, often ecstatic posts on the subject (most notably those by Matt B) to read while I'm waiting.

Christmas is going to be such an anti-climax this year!
Delayed for a week in Canada, so got it in the U.S.
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« Reply #531 on: July 04, 2017, 11:47:34 AM »

I'd like to know, am I hearing elements of what would become Do It Again in A Thing or Two during the instrumental portion, or is it another song from before Wild Honey? It just sounds familiar.
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« Reply #532 on: July 04, 2017, 12:14:29 PM »

Steve Marinucci wrote that. I've criticized him privately over the years for consistently presenting bullshit as news.
A harmless enough Beatles guy -- but never anything with real meat or merit -- always leaning towards the fluff and click-bait.

I posted on the page: "Amateur writing/analysis. You can do better."

He must've accidentally removed it.
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« Reply #533 on: July 04, 2017, 03:08:58 PM »

Steve Marinucci wrote that. I've criticized him privately over the years for consistently presenting bullshit as news.
A harmless enough Beatles guy -- but never anything with real meat or merit -- always leaning towards the fluff and click-bait.

I posted on the page: "Amateur writing/analysis. You can do better."

He must've accidentally removed it.

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« Reply #534 on: July 04, 2017, 03:10:31 PM »

Steve Marinucci wrote that. I've criticized him privately over the years for consistently presenting bullshit as news.
A harmless enough Beatles guy -- but never anything with real meat or merit -- always leaning towards the fluff and click-bait.

I posted on the page: "Amateur writing/analysis. You can do better."

He must've accidentally removed it.

Howie - you so often are my internet hero.  What a great line.  No doubt, it was an accident on Steve Marinucci's part.  Roll Eyes  Nice work on the liner notes.  I can't believe I didn't mention that before.
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« Reply #535 on: July 04, 2017, 04:06:01 PM »

Thanks Debbie.

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« Reply #536 on: July 04, 2017, 04:18:29 PM »

Thanks Debbie.



Howie - it is wonderful to see you getting your due and the recognition of your talents in an official capacity via this project. You have long been a source of superb music journalism and Beach Boys insights. You are the real deal! Congratulations! Hopefully you will be similarly engaged on the 1968 project. That's going to be something amazing too!
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« Reply #537 on: July 04, 2017, 04:56:22 PM »

Thanks Debbie.



Howie - it is wonderful to see you getting you due and the recognition of your talents in an official capacity via this project. You have long been a source of superb music journalism and Beach Boys insights. You are the real deal! Congratulations! Hopefully you will be similarly engaged on the 1968 project. That's going to be something amazing too!

Spot on!
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« Reply #538 on: July 04, 2017, 09:07:31 PM »

GREAT new promo video for “Darlin’” up on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXhB2uETzP0
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« Reply #539 on: July 04, 2017, 09:34:43 PM »

I've been waiting for a stereo version of this album for years. I'm so glad they finally did it. Song-wise I've always thought Wild Honey was great, but the muddy sound quality of previous mixes always lessened my enjoyment of it. Now it sounds less lo-fi and more BW-esque.

Thank you, Capitol!
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« Reply #540 on: July 04, 2017, 11:41:22 PM »

If the album had sounded like this in 1967 things might have been different.  Brian was still at the top of his game,  just in a different way.

I do wish we had gotten a full smiley smile too though.
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« Reply #541 on: July 04, 2017, 11:54:38 PM »

I'm partially unemployed - working 2 part time jobs, no unemployment left - so my music budget is beyond limited. But I am going to buy this set.
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« Reply #542 on: July 05, 2017, 02:45:05 AM »

I'd like to know, am I hearing elements of what would become Do It Again in A Thing or Two during the instrumental portion, or is it another song from before Wild Honey? It just sounds familiar.

Odd that no one has answered this yet. It's definitely there in "ATOT"----at the end if I remember correctly.

Did that riff come from an earlier BB song? None that I know of. It sounds much like the kind of thing Motown used on occasion, as in The Four Tops' "Something About You":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuAaCgojI90
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« Reply #543 on: July 05, 2017, 05:12:53 AM »

Does anybody else think "Untitled (Redwood)" might have been an early take for Time to Get Alone?  Given that the song was intended for Redeood, it makes sense.  I hummed the verse melody over it and it certainly fits.

Hey, I've always thought that. In fact I am surprised by it being titled Untitled (Redwood) on the new release.
Here's a demonstration of how it fits that I just whipped up... https://youtu.be/KAqmMjUoodU

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« Reply #544 on: July 05, 2017, 06:49:00 AM »

Steve Marinucci wrote that. I've criticized him privately over the years for consistently presenting bullshit as news.
A harmless enough Beatles guy -- but never anything with real meat or merit -- always leaning towards the fluff and click-bait.

I posted on the page: "Amateur writing/analysis. You can do better."

He must've accidentally removed it.

Back in the 90s, Marinucci had a good Beatles website, one of the only places to get Beatles news outside of Beatlefan Magazine. I contributed some Beatles writings to his site way back in the 1996-1999 timeframe when there was scant "internet" writing about the band outside of Usenet, and back when it wasn't as easy for any random fan to have their own website or blog, etc.

But at some point many years ago, he shifted over to click-bait "examiner" website sort of stuff. Even back in the 90s, what he was good at was making the repository of Beatles info rather than his actual writing. I also never got the sense he was that big on the BBs, so he would be the last guy I'd go to for a review of a BB product. Still, a bummer he put so little effort into his "review."
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« Reply #545 on: July 05, 2017, 07:44:33 AM »

Does anybody else think "Untitled (Redwood)" might have been an early take for Time to Get Alone?  Given that the song was intended for Redeood, it makes sense.  I hummed the verse melody over it and it certainly fits.

Hey, I've always thought that. In fact I am surprised by it being titled Untitled (Redwood) on the new release.
Here's a demonstration of how it fits that I just whipped up... https://youtu.be/KAqmMjUoodU

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NIce one. I saw someone write that on the other board but couldn't quite imagine it in my head, but you nailed it!
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« Reply #546 on: July 05, 2017, 08:58:49 AM »

I just found this video of Mike singing "Aren't You Glad" at a Beach Boys concert last month and he sounds great!  Definitely takes the bad taste out of my mouth from that "Do It Again" single.

https://youtu.be/dl5x4fA-0Q0
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« Reply #547 on: July 05, 2017, 12:12:19 PM »

Brian and Al just played Aren't You Glad live in Utrecht at TivoliVredenburg!
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« Reply #548 on: July 05, 2017, 12:14:27 PM »

Great to hear, you got any video?
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« Reply #549 on: July 05, 2017, 12:45:59 PM »

It looks like someone is updating the setlist as the show continues here:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tivolivredenburg-grote-zaal-utrecht-netherlands-63e42a9f.html

Looks kind of garbled in terms of order, unless all of a sudden they've shifted Blondie's songs to the middle of the first set.
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