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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on April 27, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
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I agree with you it was put on voice to deal with the Myke touring machine of the time.
The Spring LP was released in 72. Was Brian's voice starting to change as far back as that?. The ITBOMM demo was recorded in 75. Was there a three year period of voice change?
Yes it was. Brian' vocals on So Tough bear it out (although buried a bit in the mix). Somewhere in my collection I have Brian's vocals isolated on the songs he's there vocally but I need to hunt it down (burned to cd before my old computer died; it's packed up in a box somewhere).
From memory...he's the high part on Mess of help (sounding more like his MIU era falsetto). He's doing the "Marcella Hey" tag on Marcella, in addition to the higher part on the "hey yeah Marcella" part. And on He Come Down, the "eee-ee" part on the left channel is indeed Brian, sounding EXACTLY like he did in 1976 (right channel is Mike).
https://youtu.be/4ExZZH1v0TM?t=3m37s
I asked someone who would definitely know and without hesitation got confirmation.
I thought the "Marcella Hey" part was Jack...
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surely there must be multitracks for 'marcella'. would have had 16 track at least by then.
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Quote from: c-man on April 28, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on April 27, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on April 27, 2017, 06:31:12 PM
I agree with you it was put on voice to deal with the Myke touring machine of the time.
The Spring LP was released in 72. Was Brian's voice starting to change as far back as that?. The ITBOMM demo was recorded in 75. Was there a three year period of voice change?
Yes it was. Brian' vocals on So Tough bear it out (although buried a bit in the mix). Somewhere in my collection I have Brian's vocals isolated on the songs he's there vocally but I need to hunt it down (burned to cd before my old computer died; it's packed up in a box somewhere).
From memory...he's the high part on Mess of help (sounding more like his MIU era falsetto). He's doing the "Marcella Hey" tag on Marcella, in addition to the higher part on the "hey yeah Marcella" part. And on He Come Down, the "eee-ee" part on the left channel is indeed Brian, sounding EXACTLY like he did in 1976 (right channel is Mike).
https://youtu.be/4ExZZH1v0TM?t=3m37s
I asked someone who would definitely know and without hesitation got confirmation.
I thought the "Marcella Hey" part was Jack...
It's possible that he might have doubled him, but IMHO it's way too on pitch
https://youtu.be/TmkyOD714PA?t=3m11s
(left channel)
Let me load this in Adobe Audition and see if I can isolate it...one moment..
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Here we go...
https://soundcloud.com/billy-castillo-2/beach-boys-marcella-tag
Here's the higher "Marcella hey" part and right after it you here another one at lower pitch with a very familiar vocal "ring" answering it (with a bit of a twang) with a "hey Marcella" (but pronounced kind of like "Mahcella" . I hadn't thought about the higher part being Jack before, but it really doesn't sound like him unless there was some pitch manipulation going on. The answering part I pointed out, though, is unmistakingly Brian. (Incidentally, the doobie doobie doo-oo part, is Al.
)To compare...this is what Jack sounded like vocally other than on A Day in the Life of a Tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W65YuoRkpM
So yeah, unless his vocals were sped up, I can't hear that being Jack at all.
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that's gotta be Carl on the top, and Brian answering back an 'octave'? below with that husky voice
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Quote from: bringahorseinhere? on April 28, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
that's gotta be Carl on the top, and Brian answering back an 'octave'? below with that husky voice
Not Carl...voice was too thin.
Could it be Billy?
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sounds like Carl to these ears
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Another option...possibly David Sandler?
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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i immediately heard 'Carl', but i'm no expert. it's just what i hear...
clarification would be nice.
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on April 30, 2017, 09:32:20 PM
Another option...possibly David Sandler?
I'd put money on him being the "mystery voice". Or Rocky Pamplin.
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Isn't he also doing the "What's in her head" part?
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Isn't he also doing the "What's in her head" part?
I'm pretty sure that's Al.
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nah! it's gotta be Dylan, or Elvis or McCartney......maybe Johnny Cash
just throwing some names out there...
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Maybe it's Doe.
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By process of elimination, "Marcella hey" is definitely not Brian, Al, Mike, Dennis (tho not sure, did he ever do the smooth high vocal? The Wilson bros can be tricky to ID at times). Could be Jack Rieley but 1) he sings offkey 2) can't hit the high notes easily - that tag sounds like smb. confident in that register. Either Carl or Billy Hinsche. There's sth. suspicious about it that doesn't give away "Carl" to ears. FWIW, 2cents.
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I thought it was Ricky Fataar.
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I thought it was Ricky Fataar.
He did that part whenever it was performed live.
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Based on hearing the track I have concluded:
"Marcella Hey" is Carl
"Heyyy Marcella" is Brian I think...
"Doo be doos" is Al.
"One arm over my shoulder" (not the melody but the part above, answering Mike's melody) is Blondie or Ricky... not sure..
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Quote from: ForHerCryingSoul on May 01, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
Based on hearing the track I have concluded:
"Marcella Hey" is Carl
"Heyyy Marcella" is Brian I think...
"Doo be doos" is Al.
"One arm over my shoulder" (not the melody but the part above, answering Mike's melody) is Blondie or Ricky... not sure..
I've always thought that last part was Dennis...and I also hear him, or someone like him, on another part...
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Quote from: c-man on May 01, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: ForHerCryingSoul on May 01, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
Based on hearing the track I have concluded:
"Marcella Hey" is Carl
"Heyyy Marcella" is Brian I think...
"Doo be doos" is Al.
"One arm over my shoulder" (not the melody but the part above, answering Mike's melody) is Blondie or Ricky... not sure..
I've always thought that last part was Dennis...and I also hear him, or someone like him, on another part...
Here's some track info from the console strips:
11 - ONE ARM first chorus
12 - ONE ARM 2nd chorus
13 - Mike Du Be Du Be Du Be
15 - Al extra
16 - Mike and Al
17 - Carl and Jack
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Quote from: c-man on May 01, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: c-man on May 01, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: ForHerCryingSoul on May 01, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
Based on hearing the track I have concluded:
"Marcella Hey" is Carl
"Heyyy Marcella" is Brian I think...
"Doo be doos" is Al.
"One arm over my shoulder" (not the melody but the part above, answering Mike's melody) is Blondie or Ricky... not sure..
I've always thought that last part was Dennis...and I also hear him, or someone like him, on another part...
Here's some track info from the console strips:
11 - ONE ARM first chorus
12 - ONE ARM 2nd chorus
13 - Mike Du Be Du Be Du Be
15 - Al extra
16 - Mike and Al
17 - Carl and Jack
Any possibility this could be incorrect? Something has to be missing unless there was some mislabeling.
FWIW- Jack himself once stated that Brian was on the tag some years ago, so who knows...
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Brian's in there but in the lower range, i don't think there's a disagreement with that thou..
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Quote from: bringahorseinhere? on May 01, 2017, 08:08:39 PM
Brian's in there but in the lower range, i don't think there's a disagreement with that thou..
Definitely hear him but he's not listed on list that c-man posted.
Oddly, the original source on the higher part being Brian? Jack himself some years ago. SO who knows? Funny part is, I never heard Brian's lower part before this thread so that was found by accident
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Re: Brian vocal for Guess I'm Dumb
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Quote from: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on May 01, 2017, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: bringahorseinhere? on May 01, 2017, 08:08:39 PM
Brian's in there but in the lower range, i don't think there's a disagreement with that thou..
Definitely hear him but he's not listed on list that c-man posted.
Oddly, the original source on the higher part being Brian? Jack himself some years ago. SO who knows? Funny part is, I never heard Brian's lower part before this thread so that was found by accident
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