gfxgfx
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
logo
 
gfx gfx
gfx
680598 Posts in 27600 Topics by 4068 Members - Latest Member: Dae Lims March 28, 2024, 06:50:51 PM
*
gfx*HomeHelpSearchCalendarLoginRegistergfx
gfxgfx
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.       « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Understated instrumental breaks  (Read 3285 times)
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« on: April 18, 2017, 03:12:30 AM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA

All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 03:58:22 AM »

The solo in Talk Talk's "After The Flood" starts just after the four-minute mark. Just a handful of notes----sheer genius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrS5ztAJ5xw

As commenter MrJohnnyhercules puts it:

"Smooth as an 18 year old malt whisky, which I would recommend listening to this with, in a dimly lit room whilst reminiscing about your youth. Melancholia is a great place to listen to music as long as you know when to put the cork back in."
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
Jay
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 5985



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 09:11:24 AM »

I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.  Grin
Logged

A son of anarchy surrounded by the hierarchy.
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 04:00:04 AM »

I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.  Grin

Yeah, the use of harmonics tends to separate the men from the boys... 

Here's what amounts to a one-note solo in The Temptations' "Get Ready":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV97roslmt0
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
feelsflow
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1283



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 10:39:18 AM »

I like all of those.  Been listening to a lot of music this morning, some with those short breaks.
Badfinger was good at it.

"I Can't Take It":  https://youtu.be/8sCaVeJGB78

This has slide scattered all through it, "Suitcase":  https://youtu.be/x0IEzGTsKR8

Logged

...if you are honest - you have no idea where childhood ends and maturity begins.  It is all endless and all one.  ~ P.L. Travers        And, let's get this out of the way now, everything I post is my opinion.  ~ Will
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
Aum Bop Diddit
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 672



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
Logged

Hey!  Those are *MY* wind chimes!
feelsflow
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1283



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 11:07:07 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

John.  You notice everything.  I'll have to check that.  Interesting.
Logged

...if you are honest - you have no idea where childhood ends and maturity begins.  It is all endless and all one.  ~ P.L. Travers        And, let's get this out of the way now, everything I post is my opinion.  ~ Will
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 03:35:51 AM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
 
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though. 
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
bringahorseinhere?
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1220



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 03:53:31 PM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA

All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).

Don't Worry Baby!  that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is. 
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.
Logged
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 02:53:43 AM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

Don't Worry Baby!  that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is. 
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.

Another great, if totally out-of-left-field minimal solo is Tommy Morgan's bass harmonica blast on "Ego/Answer".

I wonder if that solo would have been different in some way if the song had originally been called "I Know There's An Answer"? Smokin
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
Aum Bop Diddit
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 672



View Profile
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 05:57:17 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
 
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though. 

Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash.  Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd  chorus  -- I love it.  Mo!

But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.
Logged

Hey!  Those are *MY* wind chimes!
RangeRoverA1
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 4336


I drink expired tea. wanna sip or spit?


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 12:28:29 AM »

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush  
Few songs with standard cymbal crashes. Can you make the timing to the unexpected? F.ex. in DS, is it 2:22-31?
Logged

Short notice: the cat you see to the left is the best. Not counting your indoor cat who might have habit sitting at your left side when you post at SmileySmile.

Who is Lucille Ball & Vivian Vance Duet Fan Club CEO? Btw, such Club exists?

Zany zealous Zeddie eats broccoli at brunch break but doesn't do's & don't's due to duties.
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2017, 04:03:52 AM »

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.

Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash.  Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd  chorus  -- I love it.  Mo!

But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.

Do you mean the one at 1:56 here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzoyDOXfzY
I agree it sounds great, but it feels expected to me. I'll admit it's all very subjective...

And RR, here are the tracks and their respective "smashes":

JC: 1:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ)
MOD: 1:51 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjiTOXHd7kQ)
DS: twice actually, 2:30 and then 2:34 after the snare buildup (that's the one I had in mind)  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0nopK1BQM)
TSK: 2:28, after quite a long buildup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9XRgzHwNqI)
WH: 2:16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pMMIe4hb4)

But if there were a boxing match between all those tracks, "Johnny Carson" would win. LOL
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
JK
Smiley Smile Associate
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6053


Maybe I put too much faith in atmosphere


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2017, 05:23:13 AM »

One of the ultimate examples of understatement in music is Duane Eddy's version of the "Peter Gunn" theme. Basically it's just an eight-note riff with Steve Douglas blasting out the basic theme over the top. The "instrumental break" consists of building the riff up again from scratch----guitar, bass, piano and drums----before Steve blasts off into the stratosphere. This just has to be heard on vinyl...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXKWAxxZUU
Logged

"Ik bun moar een eenvoudige boerenlul en doar schoam ik mien niet veur" (Normaal, 1978)
You're Grass and I'm a Power Mower: A Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series
the Carbon Freeze | Eclectic Essays & Art
gfx
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
gfx
Jump to:  
gfx
Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Page created in 0.364 seconds with 22 queries.
Helios Multi design by Bloc
gfx
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!