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Understated instrumental breaks
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Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".
There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA
All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 19, 2017, 03:58:22 AM »
The solo in Talk Talk's "After The Flood" starts just after the four-minute mark. Just a handful of notes----sheer genius:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrS5ztAJ5xw
As commenter MrJohnnyhercules puts it:
"Smooth as an 18 year old malt whisky, which I would recommend listening to this with, in a dimly lit room whilst reminiscing about your youth. Melancholia is a great place to listen to music as long as you know when to put the cork back in."
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.
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Quote from: Jay on April 19, 2017, 09:11:24 AM
I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.
Yeah, the use of harmonics tends to separate the men from the boys...
Here's what amounts to a one-note solo in The Temptations' "Get Ready":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV97roslmt0
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 22, 2017, 10:39:18 AM »
I like all of those. Been listening to a lot of music this morning, some with those short breaks.
Badfinger was good at it.
"I Can't Take It":
https://youtu.be/8sCaVeJGB78
This has slide scattered all through it, "Suitcase":
https://youtu.be/x0IEzGTsKR8
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April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »
I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.
In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:
The list so far (all original studio versions):
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM »
Quote from: JK on April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.
In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:
The list so far (all original studio versions):
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 26, 2017, 11:07:07 PM »
Quote from: JK on April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.
In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:
The list so far (all original studio versions):
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
John. You notice everything. I'll have to check that. Interesting.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 27, 2017, 03:35:51 AM »
Quote from: Aum Bop Diddit on April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: JK on April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.
In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:
The list so far (all original studio versions):
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 27, 2017, 03:53:31 PM »
Quote from: JK on April 18, 2017, 03:12:30 AM
Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".
There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA
All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).
Don't Worry Baby! that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is.
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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April 29, 2017, 02:53:43 AM »
Quote from: bringahorseinhere? on April 27, 2017, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: JK on April 18, 2017, 03:12:30 AM
Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".
Don't Worry Baby! that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is.
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.
Another great, if totally out-of-left-field minimal solo is Tommy Morgan's bass harmonica blast on "Ego/Answer".
I wonder if that solo would have been different in some way if the song had
originally
been called "I Know There's An Answer"?
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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Quote from: JK on April 27, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
Quote from: Aum Bop Diddit on April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: JK on April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.
In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:
The list so far (all original studio versions):
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though.
Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash. Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd chorus -- I love it. Mo!
But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.
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Re: Understated instrumental breaks
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Quote from: JK on April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM
"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush
Few songs with standard cymbal crashes. Can you make the timing to the unexpected? F.ex. in DS, is it 2:22-31?
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Quote from: Aum Bop Diddit on April 29, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: JK on April 27, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
Quote from: Aum Bop Diddit on April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash. Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd chorus -- I love it. Mo!
But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.
Do you mean the one at 1:56 here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzoyDOXfzY
I agree it sounds great, but it feels expected to me. I'll admit it's all very subjective...
And RR, here are the tracks and their respective "smashes":
JC: 1:46 (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ
)
MOD: 1:51 (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjiTOXHd7kQ
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DS: twice actually, 2:30 and then 2:34 after the snare buildup (that's the one I had in mind) (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0nopK1BQM
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TSK: 2:28, after quite a long buildup (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9XRgzHwNqI
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WH: 2:16 (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pMMIe4hb4
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But if there were a boxing match between all those tracks, "Johnny Carson" would win.
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One of the ultimate examples of understatement in music is Duane Eddy's version of the "Peter Gunn" theme. Basically it's just an eight-note riff with Steve Douglas blasting out the basic theme over the top. The "instrumental break" consists of building the riff up again from scratch----guitar, bass, piano and drums----before Steve blasts off into the stratosphere. This just
has
to be heard on vinyl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXKWAxxZUU
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