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« on: April 18, 2017, 03:12:30 AM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA

All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 03:58:22 AM »

The solo in Talk Talk's "After The Flood" starts just after the four-minute mark. Just a handful of notes----sheer genius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrS5ztAJ5xw

As commenter MrJohnnyhercules puts it:

"Smooth as an 18 year old malt whisky, which I would recommend listening to this with, in a dimly lit room whilst reminiscing about your youth. Melancholia is a great place to listen to music as long as you know when to put the cork back in."
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 09:11:24 AM »

I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 04:00:04 AM »

I always liked the guitar solo in Nowhere Man, ending on that high "ping". My dad and I always used to use that "high ping" to tell whether or not a Beatles cover band was "authentic" or not.  Grin

Yeah, the use of harmonics tends to separate the men from the boys... 

Here's what amounts to a one-note solo in The Temptations' "Get Ready":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV97roslmt0
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 10:39:18 AM »

I like all of those.  Been listening to a lot of music this morning, some with those short breaks.
Badfinger was good at it.

"I Can't Take It":  https://youtu.be/8sCaVeJGB78

This has slide scattered all through it, "Suitcase":  https://youtu.be/x0IEzGTsKR8

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 08:18:47 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 11:07:07 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

John.  You notice everything.  I'll have to check that.  Interesting.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 03:35:51 AM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
 
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 03:53:31 PM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

There are more, of course. Take the wondrous break in Kim Weston's "Take me In Your Arms":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVkXrimUidA

All further suggestions welcome, even if it's a Beach Boys track (this division into BB and non-BB topics, although understandable, can be a little stifling at times).

Don't Worry Baby!  that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is. 
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 02:53:43 AM »

Perhaps the archetypical less-is-more instrumental break is the one in "Don't Worry, Baby".

Don't Worry Baby!  that solo could not have been any better, as minimal as it is. 
Love that tone of the guitar too, it shouldn't work, but it's an amazing change to the usual.
A perfect song.

Another great, if totally out-of-left-field minimal solo is Tommy Morgan's bass harmonica blast on "Ego/Answer".

I wonder if that solo would have been different in some way if the song had originally been called "I Know There's An Answer"? Smokin
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 05:57:17 PM »

I'll sneak this in here, rather than start yet another new topic.

In the "Johnny Carson" poll thingie I posted three additional examples of songs with a lone cymbal smash at an unexpected moment. I've since been reminded of one more:

The list so far (all original studio versions):

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush

There could well be others----it's a stupendous effect.
   

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.
 
It must be one of the oddest solos ever, like the player had picked up his instrument for the first time and was feeling his way around it. Very effective though. 

Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash.  Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd  chorus  -- I love it.  Mo!

But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 12:28:29 AM »

"Johnny Carson"----The Beach Boys
"Mouldy Old Dough"----Lieutenant Pigeon 
"Don't Stop"----Fleetwood Mac
"The Spotlight Kid"----Captain Beefheart
"Wutherin' Heights"----Kate Bush  
Few songs with standard cymbal crashes. Can you make the timing to the unexpected? F.ex. in DS, is it 2:22-31?
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2017, 04:03:52 AM »

You can add "I'm Set Free" The Velvet Underground.

I think you must mean the understated instrumental break, not an off-kilter cymbal smash (at least I didn't hear one). Thanks, ABD.

Although the song fits in the original thread idea, I did mean for an unexpected cymbal smash.  Listen at 1:54 in the 2nd  chorus  -- I love it.  Mo!

But yeah the guitar solo is as you described.

Do you mean the one at 1:56 here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzoyDOXfzY
I agree it sounds great, but it feels expected to me. I'll admit it's all very subjective...

And RR, here are the tracks and their respective "smashes":

JC: 1:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ)
MOD: 1:51 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjiTOXHd7kQ)
DS: twice actually, 2:30 and then 2:34 after the snare buildup (that's the one I had in mind)  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm0nopK1BQM)
TSK: 2:28, after quite a long buildup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9XRgzHwNqI)
WH: 2:16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pMMIe4hb4)

But if there were a boxing match between all those tracks, "Johnny Carson" would win. LOL
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2017, 05:23:13 AM »

One of the ultimate examples of understatement in music is Duane Eddy's version of the "Peter Gunn" theme. Basically it's just an eight-note riff with Steve Douglas blasting out the basic theme over the top. The "instrumental break" consists of building the riff up again from scratch----guitar, bass, piano and drums----before Steve blasts off into the stratosphere. This just has to be heard on vinyl...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXKWAxxZUU
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