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« on: March 30, 2017, 07:41:53 PM »

I'm somewhat late in realizing my appreciation for Beach Boys music.  I started with Sounds of Summer compilation, then moved on to The Warmth of the Sun, from there Pet Sounds, and most recently The Smile Sessions.  I want to fill in my CD collection with the pre-Pet Sounds albums, but I am looking for some recommendations as to which versions to get.  Most seem to be available in either a two-fer version paired with another album, or as single-album mono / stereo combo releases.

Based solely on sound quality, is there any discernible difference between the two-fer releases and the mono / stereo CD versions of these albums?  I'm not necessarily enough of a completest to feel the need to have both the mono and stereo mixes of these, though I would certainly buy the mono / stereo releases over the two-fers if the sound quality was significantly better.

Any advice is welcomed!
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 07:44:14 PM »

the 2000 two-fers are a must.  the 2012 remasters are 'touch n go'.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 07:55:11 PM »

i would also recommend the Hoffman 'lost and found' the original pre Capitol recordings also.
i personally prefer this over the 'beginning of the beach boys' 2 CD release.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 09:59:22 PM »

The 1990 two-fers are the way to go, IMO. Sure, they are no-noised, but they sound great comparing to the recent remasters.


If you're willing to pay more to get the best sound, than get the DCC discs if you can.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 10:08:58 PM »

i find 'some' of those 1990 guys a little 'boxy' and 'dull', more the later 60's stuff from memory
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 10:22:01 PM »

1990 discs for me, too.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 12:03:40 AM »

I'd recommend you to get 2001 Capitol tow-fars. 

Plus, Endless Harmony Soundtrack is  a good way to learn how good BB stuff in the vaults is. You gotta get it second.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2017, 12:32:24 AM »

this is an interesting shootout! the 1990's over the 2000's.  i have all of the 2012 copies but not
all of the 2000 versions.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 01:11:21 AM »

Watamushi is right. that and the 'hawthorne, california' set are both essential
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 02:46:03 AM »

this is an interesting shootout! the 1990's over the 2000's.  i have all of the 2012 copies but not
all of the 2000 versions.
I have only one 1990 copy(SS/Wild Honey), so I'm maybe not right. But I definitely prefer 2001 copies.

Anyway 1990 vs 2001 vs 2012 would be great idea for an another thread.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 02:51:11 AM »

Watamushi is right. that and the 'hawthorne, california' set are both essential
I don't recommend 'hawthone, california' to BB beginners, though I've never listened to it as a whole. It's surely essential, but not  so much interesting to those who aren't hardcore fans.

I'd recommend to buy GV box or Made in California over hawthone, california. They both have some important and excellent outtakes, and have a bunch of hits and great album cuts.   
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 06:17:56 AM »

1990s discs are efficient to collect (two albums in one) and fairly cheap to get and have good sound quality, so I say go for those.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2017, 08:13:18 AM »

Plus Mark Linnett worked on the 1990 discs.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2017, 04:00:04 PM »

And the 2000 discs!

I prefer the 1990 discs in terms of sound but the 2000 discs have some remixed songs that you need if you're a completist, and unlisted bonus tracks at the end of many of the discs.  The remixed songs off the top of my head are Baker Man, I Do, Old Folks at Home/Old Man River, and Can't Wait Too Long.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2017, 04:28:18 PM »

I still haven't come up with the money to buy them all, but the Analog Productions SACD/CD hybrid discs are probably the best-sounding versions for the albums that they have issued.

Steve Hoffman's DCC CDs from the 90s are also must-haves sound quality-wise. He also did "Pet Sounds" again in mono for Audio Fidelity. Also excellent.

But a much more budget-conscious way to go that still gets you stuff that sounds good would be to go with the 2001 two-fers of the 60s albums (they are mastered louder than the 1990 two-fers, but I think they sound less muddy and dull), and the 2000 two-fer CDs for the 70s and 80s albums (although I believe for some odd reason the physical CD of "MIU/LA Light Album" is out of print and goes for bigger bucks).

Then later if you want to for mono+stereo where available, you can skip past the 2012 Capitol remasters and go straight for the Analog Productions hybrid discs.

I think most people that get "into" the band end up going past what the hits compilations and boxed set compilations offer, so I say go straight for picking up those two-fers where you get nearly the entire base album catalog in a relatively compact fashion. Then, you can venture out into the sets that have the outtakes, because there *are* some outtakes on the various archival releases that are better than some of the stuff on the actual albums.
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2017, 05:51:44 PM »

So the Pickwick albums aren't all that 'Jude'?  Wink

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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2017, 06:07:50 PM »

Thanks to all for the responses!  I ended up going with the 2001 two-fers.  It has been great discovering so many new (to me) songs, and the extensive track-by-track liner notes with each release have become my reading material for the weekend.  Thanks again!
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2017, 06:39:38 PM »

that's what we're here for  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2017, 03:19:33 AM »

Thanks to all for the responses!  I ended up going with the 2001 two-fers.  It has been great discovering so many new (to me) songs, and the extensive track-by-track liner notes with each release have become my reading material for the weekend.  Thanks again!
Nice decision! Enjoy Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2017, 05:32:17 PM »

I'm somewhat late in realizing my appreciation for Beach Boys music.  I started with Sounds of Summer compilation, then moved on to The Warmth of the Sun, from there Pet Sounds, and most recently The Smile Sessions.  I want to fill in my CD collection with the pre-Pet Sounds albums, but I am looking for some recommendations as to which versions to get.  Most seem to be available in either a two-fer version paired with another album, or as single-album mono / stereo combo releases.

Based solely on sound quality, is there any discernible difference between the two-fer releases and the mono / stereo CD versions of these albums?  I'm not necessarily enough of a completest to feel the need to have both the mono and stereo mixes of these, though I would certainly buy the mono / stereo releases over the two-fers if the sound quality was significantly better.

Any advice is welcomed!

Thats exactly how I started.  Sounds of summer, Warmth of the Sun, and Pet Sounds.  I think the 2 fers are the way to go. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2017, 08:38:28 PM »

Regarding the various choices being offered, for best sound quality, both the Analog Productions cds are excellent. Another option is the Japanese SACD reissues. There are several you cannot find in the USA. CD Japan is a reliable and reasonably priced vendor of Beach Boys cds.
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