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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2017, 10:56:45 AM »

Although my question about "Columnated ruins domino" wasn't included on "An audience with..." (I managed to ask a question to Ringo a couple of years back) the article is way much, much more interesting than your typical Mike Love interview.

Sample:

Few artists have been
bootlegged like The Beach
Boys. Are there plans to put out
any of theSunflower sessions,
or theLandlockedor the
Adult/Childrecordings?
ZoranTuckar,Zagreb,Croatia
I have fond memories of the things
we did onSunflower. But the company
that owns our masters, they’re always
looking for ways to put out editions, so
who knows? Sure, any well-known group
had a core of people absorbed in knowing
everything about everything. The people
into the archival things, they know which
songs were recorded by the guys in the
band and which ones were recorded by the
Wrecking Crew, and so on. There’s a lot of
lore and history and technicality involved

Could you scan the whole article?
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« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2017, 01:02:46 PM »

I can post the whole q&a in that "columnated" way, if it's not too obnoxious... (I have a pdf)
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That would be appreciated if it's not too much work.
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Due to popular acclaim (?):

"I’ve never let
myths and fallacies
overwhelm me"
AN AUDIENCE WITH…MIKELOVE

MIKE Love has returned to
his Lake Tahoe home from
The Beach Boys’ latest
run of Australian dates to
find it has been snowing.
“I’ve had this property since 1981, but I’ve
never seen this much snow,” he says. “It’s
unbelievable. We’re not down on the lake,
we’re at a very high elevation – 1,000 feet
up – and there must be 20 feet of snow on
either side of my driveway. We have snow
ploughs going just so we can drive in and
out. Our road over the mountain, Mt Rose
Highway, was closed for a few days, so we
had to take all kinds of circuitous routes to
get anywhere.”
The idea of a Beach Boy battling with
such volumes of snow is a strange
one – especially considering how
many of the band’s earliest hits
were predicated around the
pleasures of sand, sun and surf.
But Love is sanguine, despite
the inclement weather. He is
looking forward to the band’s
forthcoming European dates,
including shows at the Royal
Albert Hall in London in May.
“Apparently, they’re sold out, which
is wonderful,” he says. But the fans
in England have always been so
incredibly wonderful.”

Will your much bootlegged
unreleased solo LPs, First Love,
Country LoveandUnleash The
Love, ever come out?
Kevin Cooper, Bolton
Some of those bootlegged things
are partially finished, maybe not
100 per cent. Funnily enough, I’ve
been working with [producer]
Michael Lloyd. Just after we do
a couple of concerts with the
Pacific Symphony in Southern
California, Costa Mesa, we’ll be going into
the studio with my band members [The
BeachBoys]. Hopefully, we’re going to
finish up some of the things I started
many years ago. There might be a song
that pops up offFirst LoveandCountry
Love, but more likely we’d work on the
songs contained onUnleash The Love.

Can you describe a typical day
of the time you spent at Rishikesh,
India, in February 1968, alongside The
Beatles, Donovan and Mia Farrow?
William Daymond, Wellington
It would be difficult to call any day in
Rishikesh a typical day! I had my birthday
there, March 15. John, Paul, George and
Donovan all got together with their
guitars and wrote a song. It was dedicated
to Maharishi’s teacher, Guru Dev, but it
ended up being a Beach Boys-style song,
“Happy Birthday Mike Love”. George
gave me a painting of the Maharishi’s
master, painted by Maharishi’s uncle.
That was a birthday party. There was
music, fireworks, sweets and cakes! It was
anything but typical. Then there was the
timePaulMcCartneycametothebreakfast
table with his acoustic guitar playing
“Back In The USSR”…
“Warmth Of The Sun” is one of your
and Brian’s most beautiful songs.
Can you tell us about writing it?
Shireen P, via email
Usually, Brian and I would sit down at
the piano together. He would have a
melody or a chorus and we would take the
primary hand in doing concept
and lyrics. For ‘The Warmth Of
The Sun’, Brian had just moved
into his rental house, the family
home had become too intense
– living under Murry Wilson’s
rule. There was such a haunting
and emotional, almost mystical
feeling about the whole writing
session. The feeling I got was the
loss of a love. The next day, we
were woken with the news that
President Kennedy had been taken
to hospital. We recorded it about
a month later. We were so shaken
and touched by [Kennedy’s death],
I think that found its way onto the
tape recording.

Tell us a story about Al Jardine!
Keith Jones, Kent
I remember going to his mum’s house.
We were looking for extra money to rent
equipment to do our first session for the
song “Surfin’”. We actually sang “Their
Hearts Are Full Of Spring” by the Four
Freshmen – who my cousin Brian was
obsessed with – to Alan’s mother, who
opened her purse strings after hearing us
sing that song. We still do that song today.
So I think Al played a really integral part,
from the beginning, by prevailing upon
his mother. That was pretty sweet!

How did the Fat Boys collaboration
come about?
Gary Cottier, Plymouth, UK
There was a fella named Eddie Haddad –
a Hawthorne High School graduate, like
Brian, Carl, Dennis and Alan. He aspired
to a musical career, but he got more into
management. He happened to know
the Fat Boys’ manager, who was a Swiss
feller. We were in Houston and we met
the Fat Boys and their manager and said,
“Why don’t we do a rap song? We’ll do role
reversals. We’ll do the Kangol caps and
the chains and the boombox, and they’ll
do the surf boards down at the beach.”
They were so big, they sank the surfboards
into the sand! We did the art part in Times
Square. It was hilarious. It was a No 1 video
for a month solid on MTV.

Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.

How closely was
Dennis involved with
Charles Manson?
Rick Salmon, Epsom
There were things
that were told to me
by Dennis, just before
the Manson murders
at Cielo Drive. Terry
Melcher had been
leasing that house.
He left and went to
Europe for a short
time. When he came
back, he slept in his mum’s place at Beverly
Hills – Doris Day being his mother. But
Dennis, Charlie and Terry had driven up to
that house prior to Terry departing. Dennis
tried to get Charlie a record deal, as Dennis
felt Charlie had some interesting songs. He
wrote some songs with him and, much to
Charlie’s chagrin, remodelled a song and
we did it on TV [“Never LearnNot To Love”].
One time, it was just Dennis and I in the
studio at Brian’s house. I said, “Dennis,
why are you so uptight?” He said, “I was
just out at the ranch and I saw Charlie
take an automatic and blow a
black cat” – meaning a human
being, a guy, an AfricanAmerican
fellow – “in half
and stuff him down a well.”
It was a diabolical time.

You are openly a
Trump supporter.
Are there issues you
disagree with him on?
George Faulkner, via email
I don’t have anything negative to say about
the President Of The USA. We did attend
the inauguration. That was a moving
experience. I understand there are so
many factions and fractious things going
on – the chips will fall where they may. But
Donald Trump has never been anything
but kind to us. We have known him for
many a year. We’ve performed at some of
his venues at fundraisers and so on. If he
said something that was phrased in a way
that was not so great, then like anybody
else, I’d say, “Why did he say that?” But
I’m not second-guessing him.

Did you ever meet Walt Disney during
the filming of The Monkey’s Uncle?
Shaun Phillips
I did not. But we had a lot of fun doing
that film. I remember doing the Monkey’s
Uncle – which was my form of the Monkey
– with Annette [Funicello]. I guess
we were getting down a little too
much. See, Elvis was banned in
Boston and, when he playedThe
Ed Sullivan Show, they wouldn’t
show him below the waist. We were
getting a little intense with our
monkeying for Disney!

Few artists have been
bootlegged like The Beach
Boys. Are there plans to put out
any of theSunflower sessions,
or theLandlockedor the
Adult/Childrecordings?
ZoranTuckar,Zagreb,Croatia
I have fond memories of the things
we did onSunflower. But the company
that owns our masters, they’re always
looking for ways to put out editions, so
who knows? Sure, any well-known group
had a core of people absorbed in knowing
everything about everything. The people
into the archival things, they know which
songs were recorded by the guys in the
band and which ones were recorded by the
Wrecking Crew, and so on. There’s a lot of
lore and history and technicality involved.

Has TM made you a better person?
Peter Fors, via email
It has allowed me to gain deep rest
and relaxation and given me the
energy, clarity and positivity to
go forward in life. When you’re
attacked by people… maybe
things are said about me that
I never did – absolutely myths
and fallacies – I’ve never let them
overwhelm me. It’s given me the
strength to put them in perspective.

Who was the best surfer among you?
Richard Zim, CA
I’d say Dennis. Sure, I had a board. Alan
Jardine and myself used to go surfing
in high school and afterwards. Bruce
Johnston still surfs to this day.

“I don’t have anything
negative to say about the
President Of The USA”
MIKE LOVE

Inset below: Donald
Trump, who has
“never been
anything but
kind to us”

InThe Monkey’s Uncle: (l-r) Al Jardine, Carl
Wilson, (star of film)
Annette Funicello,
Brian Wilson, Dennis
Wilson and Mike Love

The Beach Boys’ European tour dates
begin on May 18 at the Royal Albert
RB/REDFERNS; REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
Hall, London
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2017, 01:54:38 PM »

Same old....guess you can't really expect a 76 year old guy to come out with anything new at this point in his career but would think a magazine of the calibre of Uncut would get a few better questions in. Good to hear the Beatles 68 story FOR THE VERY VERY FIRST TIME   Grin
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2017, 02:29:35 PM »

Mike just said that Dennis told him that he saw charles manson murder a human being. I don't think that that is "same old same old". 
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2017, 02:38:16 PM »

Mike just said that Dennis told him that he saw charles manson murder a human being. I don't think that that is "same old same old". 

It was in his book and was featured as a tidbit on various websites/publications to promote it. I wanna hear about the music....no interest in  Manson stuff (even though I understand it helps sell)
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2017, 02:44:16 PM »

Mike just said that Dennis told him that he saw charles manson murder a human being. I don't think that that is "same old same old". 

It was in his book and was featured as a tidbit on various websites/publications to promote it. I wanna hear about the music....no interest in  Manson stuff (even though I understand it helps sell)
I find it interesting in that if it's true, it adds a bit more depth and understanding of the daemons* that haunted Dennis.


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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2017, 02:59:52 PM »

Mike just said that Dennis told him that he saw charles manson murder a human being. I don't think that that is "same old same old". 

It was in his book and was featured as a tidbit on various websites/publications to promote it. I wanna hear about the music....no interest in  Manson stuff (even though I understand it helps sell)
I find it interesting in that if it's true, it adds a bit more depth and understanding of the daemons* that haunted Dennis.


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myKe, anything for a buck, luHv, in saying that, begs the obvious question to be asked as to why, if and when Dennis told him that, why in the hell didn't he report it to the authorities in a clandestine manner? By the way, boring, sleep inducing interview which makes one wonder why Uncut bothered in the first place.
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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2017, 03:06:30 PM »

OSD read an interview of Mike Love?!?!?  Shocked
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« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2017, 03:08:31 PM »

He needs to interview him!
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« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2017, 04:44:34 PM »

OSD read an interview of Mike Love?!?!?  Shocked

Sure, I scan them just to make sure he's still a phony and I'm never let down by that clown.
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« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2017, 07:05:12 AM »

Holy s**t, it's stunning how Mike's defense of Donald Trump reads almost VERBATIM like defenses I've seen written by Mike supporters defending Mike.

"Well, he never did anything bad to me, sooo....."

Ugggh.

Also worth noting is that in past years/decades, he has been critical of the President *on stage* in front of audiences. You can hear it on the 1993 Paramount NYC recording for instance.

Only good thing is that Mike is not really hedging about where he stands. Good to know, and hopefully fans will stop trying to parse what he does and says and try to claim he's *not* a Trump supporter.

Despite writing the predictable late-life "clearing up the fallacies" autobiography, what I find genuinely fascinating is that there's really no evidence Mike actually *does* care about how history will characterize him. As Howie Edelson once referenced, Mike seems prepared to be remembered as a hun, and now not only for his attitude towards Brian and the band's history, but also his choice to be supportive of a divisive figure (I'll forego the other descriptive names). It's hilarious, even after decades of hugging the Reagans and Bushes and being generally associated with Republicans, Mike had *still* managed to not taint his reputation too much specifically due to politics, but in the present day he seems oddly determined to paint himself in an even poorer light for history's sake.
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« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2017, 07:15:05 AM »

Although my question about "Columnated ruins domino" wasn't included on "An audience with..." (I managed to ask a question to Ringo a couple of years back) the article is way much, much more interesting than your typical Mike Love interview.

Sample:

Few artists have been
bootlegged like The Beach
Boys. Are there plans to put out
any of theSunflower sessions,
or theLandlockedor the
Adult/Childrecordings?
ZoranTuckar,Zagreb,Croatia
I have fond memories of the things
we did onSunflower. But the company
that owns our masters, they’re always
looking for ways to put out editions, so
who knows? Sure, any well-known group
had a core of people absorbed in knowing
everything about everything. The people
into the archival things, they know which
songs were recorded by the guys in the
band and which ones were recorded by the
Wrecking Crew, and so on. There’s a lot of
lore and history and technicality involved

edit: of course, he must know that all these recordings he's asked for are property of BRI, not Capitol.....

Mike has, by his own words, never been terribly interested in the intricacies of reissues and archival releases. You can go all the way back to his feisty 1992 Goldmine interview where he professes ignorance as to what's going on with the BBs back catalog releases, and the interview laughs and Mike seems kind of annoyed that the interview is amused that Mike doesn't know this stuff.

All we can hope for is that better management at BRI get some good archival projects going, and hopefully they can just put the thing under Mike's nose and get him to sign off on it and then Mike doesn't have to be involved any further.
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Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.


"I haven't seen the movie, but here's something I'm going to complain about anyway...."

If Mike had seen the movie, he'd know that in the film he doesn't complain about an "element of an instrument", he's complains rather about Brian's perfectionist nature in recording the instrument. Not only has Mike by his own words professed to find the studio a tedious enterprise, but also that moment in the film actually humanizes him more and it's a moment that the audience can identify with.

I've had people tell me Mike is way more bent out of shape (which is a bummer for numerous reasons) about the "Love and Mercy" film, and his bringing up the film when the question was about Brian's book tends to reinforce this. I'm guessing he's annoyed the L&M soundtrack got released too. It's really disappointing and sad, and I truly wish Mike wasn't still capable of being so disappointing.
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Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.


"I haven't seen the movie, but here's something I'm going to complain about anyway...."

If Mike had seen the movie, he'd know that in the film he doesn't complain about an "element of an instrument", he's complains rather about Brian's perfectionist nature in recording the instrument. Not only has Mike by his own words professed to find the studio a tedious enterprise, but also that moment in the film actually humanizes him more and it's a moment that the audience can identify with[/b].

I've had people tell me Mike is way more bent out of shape (which is a bummer for numerous reasons) about the "Love and Mercy" film, and his bringing up the film when the question was about Brian's book tends to reinforce this. I'm guessing he's annoyed the L&M soundtrack got released too. It's really disappointing and sad, and I truly wish Mike wasn't still capable of being so disappointing.

I agree, I thought he was portrayed really quite sympathetically and likeably (apparently not a word, whatever) in L&M. It was easy to see things from his perspective in the film. I wish he'd see the movie.
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Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.


"I haven't seen the movie, but here's something I'm going to complain about anyway...."

If Mike had seen the movie, he'd know that in the film he doesn't complain about an "element of an instrument", he's complains rather about Brian's perfectionist nature in recording the instrument. Not only has Mike by his own words professed to find the studio a tedious enterprise, but also that moment in the film actually humanizes him more and it's a moment that the audience can identify with[/b].

I've had people tell me Mike is way more bent out of shape (which is a bummer for numerous reasons) about the "Love and Mercy" film, and his bringing up the film when the question was about Brian's book tends to reinforce this. I'm guessing he's annoyed the L&M soundtrack got released too. It's really disappointing and sad, and I truly wish Mike wasn't still capable of being so disappointing.

I agree, I thought he was portrayed really quite sympathetically and likeably (apparently not a word, whatever) in L&M. It was easy to see things from his perspective in the film. I wish he'd see the movie.

I bet he has watched it a few times. Would be shocked if he hadn't.
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« Reply #67 on: March 20, 2017, 01:22:51 PM »

I agree, I thought he was portrayed really quite sympathetically and likeably (apparently not a word, whatever) in L&M.

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I agree, I thought he was portrayed really quite sympathetically and likeably (apparently not a word, whatever) in L&M.

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Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.


"I haven't seen the movie, but here's something I'm going to complain about anyway...."

If Mike had seen the movie, he'd know that in the film he doesn't complain about an "element of an instrument", he's complains rather about Brian's perfectionist nature in recording the instrument. Not only has Mike by his own words professed to find the studio a tedious enterprise, but also that moment in the film actually humanizes him more and it's a moment that the audience can identify with[/b].

I've had people tell me Mike is way more bent out of shape (which is a bummer for numerous reasons) about the "Love and Mercy" film, and his bringing up the film when the question was about Brian's book tends to reinforce this. I'm guessing he's annoyed the L&M soundtrack got released too. It's really disappointing and sad, and I truly wish Mike wasn't still capable of being so disappointing.

I agree, I thought he was portrayed really quite sympathetically and likeably (apparently not a word, whatever) in L&M. It was easy to see things from his perspective in the film. I wish he'd see the movie.

I bet he has watched it a few times. Would be shocked if he hadn't.
Well, maybe you're right and he's just putting us on. But it wouldn't surprise me too much if he's telling the truth. Especially if he doesn't want his self-perception to be challenged. That's tough for anyone, but I think it's especially tough for someone who seems to be actively trying to edit history. If he's seen L&M, would he really let any perceived inaccuracies go?
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« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2017, 03:23:20 PM »


Have you read Brian’s book?
Peter Sharply, Leeds
No, I haven’t. Do I intend to? I don’t think
so. I’d rather just sit and have a chat with
Brian and hang out, like we did in the old
days when we were writing together. I
haven’t seenLove&Mercy, either, but the
one thing I do know is that my character
in that film was portrayed as objecting to
some element of an instrument on “Good
Vibrations” – which is made up. I was 100
per cent positive about “Good Vibrations”.
I came up with the chorus and wrote all the
words. I was mischaracterised.


"I haven't seen the movie, but here's something I'm going to complain about anyway...."

If Mike had seen the movie, he'd know that in the film he doesn't complain about an "element of an instrument", he's complains rather about Brian's perfectionist nature in recording the instrument. Not only has Mike by his own words professed to find the studio a tedious enterprise, but also that moment in the film actually humanizes him more and it's a moment that the audience can identify with.


Mike should talk to a certain 'fact checker' on this one. Wink
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« Reply #71 on: March 20, 2017, 03:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll link=topic=24884.msg606497#msg606497
I bet he has watched it a few times. Would be shocked if he hadn't.

The reason why I agree with this statement is this: wouldn't Mike want to know if there's reason for him to sue for defamation of character in a major motion picture? I feel like he'd want to review the film just to make sure there's not some characterization in the film that he could somehow sue for. After all, weren't there all sorts of lawsuits/threats of lawsuits for portrayals in Brian's 1991 autobiography?

I can't imagine that Mike would just not even bother watching it out of curiosity to know if there's some sort of offensive characterization he could complain about, particularly given what happened years earlier. Or at minimum, perhaps he had his wife or lawyer watch it for him and report back to him.

The idea that someone (Mike) who is portrayed on film (in a project from the Brian "side", a side that apparently in the past caused legal action due to what was viewed as unfair/slanderous previous portrayals) would just "sit it out" and not even want to bother knowing - in full detail, which is only possible by planting his butt in a seat and watching - doesn't seem quite plausible to me. Maybe it's just me thinking that, though.
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« Reply #72 on: March 20, 2017, 09:27:28 PM »

Although my question about "Columnated ruins domino" wasn't included on "An audience with..." (I managed to ask a question to Ringo a couple of years back) the article is way much, much more interesting than your typical Mike Love interview.

Sample:

Few artists have been
bootlegged like The Beach
Boys. Are there plans to put out
any of theSunflower sessions,
or theLandlockedor the
Adult/Childrecordings?
ZoranTuckar,Zagreb,Croatia
I have fond memories of the things
we did onSunflower. But the company
that owns our masters, they’re always
looking for ways to put out editions, so
who knows? Sure, any well-known group
had a core of people absorbed in knowing
everything about everything. The people
into the archival things, they know which
songs were recorded by the guys in the
band and which ones were recorded by the
Wrecking Crew, and so on. There’s a lot of
lore and history and technicality involved

edit: of course, he must know that all these recordings he's asked for are property of BRI, not Capitol.....

Mike has, by his own words, never been terribly interested in the intricacies of reissues and archival releases. You can go all the way back to his feisty 1992 Goldmine interview where he professes ignorance as to what's going on with the BBs back catalog releases, and the interview laughs and Mike seems kind of annoyed that the interview is amused that Mike doesn't know this stuff.

All we can hope for is that better management at BRI get some good archival projects going, and hopefully they can just put the thing under Mike's nose and get him to sign off on it and then Mike doesn't have to be involved any further.

From what I understand, he was actually wuite involved in song selection for MIC, and even went to great lengths to ensure the inclusion of as much of Dennis' work as possible. Perhaps he feels guilty about his treatment of and statements about that "no-talent parasite."
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« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2017, 07:07:11 AM »

Quote from: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll link=topic=24884.msg606497#msg606497
I bet he has watched it a few times. Would be shocked if he hadn't.

The reason why I agree with this statement is this: wouldn't Mike want to know if there's reason for him to sue for defamation of character in a major motion picture? I feel like he'd want to review the film just to make sure there's not some characterization in the film that he could somehow sue for. After all, weren't there all sorts of lawsuits/threats of lawsuits for portrayals in Brian's 1991 autobiography?

I can't imagine that Mike would just not even bother watching it out of curiosity to know if there's some sort of offensive characterization he could complain about, particularly given what happened years earlier. Or at minimum, perhaps he had his wife or lawyer watch it for him and report back to him.

The idea that someone (Mike) who is portrayed on film (in a project from the Brian "side", a side that apparently in the past caused legal action due to what was viewed as unfair/slanderous previous portrayals) would just "sit it out" and not even want to bother knowing - in full detail, which is only possible by planting his butt in a seat and watching - doesn't seem quite plausible to me. Maybe it's just me thinking that, though.

It's hard to say. Mike back in the early 90s seemed to almost relish talking about how he sued over the '91 book without having read it. I believe he said in some interviews that he at some point had to at least read portions of it.

I'm guessing what happens with things like this were litigation is at least a possibility is that some third party watches it (either "for Mike", or just someone who has seen or heard or read the thing in question fills Mike in), and I think at the point at which some sort of litigation would happen, Mike would *have* to at least watch or read some of the thing in question. Which seems to be what he did in 1991/92.

Then again, he claimed not to listen to the 2004 "Smile" yet there was a lawsuit about that as I recall.

With the L&M film, there's nothing to sue over, so he doesn't need to watch it. It would be easy enough for him to watch like 30 seconds worth of the scene he keeps talking about in ignorance because he hasn't bothered to watch it. He would know then that he doesn't object to the music of "Good Vibrations" in the film.

As for the broader question of whether Mike really doesn't watch/read/listen to stuff he claims not to (L&M film, 2004 "Smile", etc.), I could easily picture either scenario. I could totally buy that he really is avoiding the stuff for a myriad of reasons, from having plausible deniability when asked (though he seems happy to comment on the stuff even when he says he hasn't seen it), some sort of fear that he'll hear something good, and so on. I could also buy that, as a rather sharkish business guy as well as someone who plays the political/personal game within BRI and the BB sphere, there's no way he isn't intimately familiar with everything the other guys are doing. I could buy that he listens to every album, from Brian's solo sets to Al's live album and everything in between, and keeps close tabs on the other guys behind the scenes.

Never underestimate how sharkish these people can be behind the scenes in business meetings and whatnot. There's that boardroom tape of McCartney from the 80s where, despite his public persona that veers a little bit purposely dense and simple, he's on top of everything and you don't doubt for a second he knows *exactly* what's going on in his business/political/financial world. 
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« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2017, 07:16:47 AM »

Bruce still surfs?!? Good for him.

People complain that Mike keeps giving us the same responses. I prefer that over a different response each time. The key may be if you want a different answer, ask different questions?
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