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« Reply #150 on: January 20, 2017, 01:12:05 PM »

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« Reply #151 on: January 20, 2017, 03:41:47 PM »

I guess what  I mean is...what's different?  Wink
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« Reply #152 on: January 20, 2017, 04:17:36 PM »

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« Reply #153 on: January 20, 2017, 04:36:20 PM »

One of my friends (who used to post herebut posts there) said on Facebook that M and B WERE invited to play the inaugural ball but declined - he said (and this was news to me) Mike's tours share either management or agents with Garth Brooks who, famously, also declined a Trump invite. I went to the other board looking for any mention of this, but Jason's disgusting and (yes) deplorable comments about the left made me pissed off and dirty. He wasn't the only one, but geez.
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« Reply #154 on: January 20, 2017, 07:35:33 PM »

One of my friends (who used to post herebut posts there) said on Facebook that M and B WERE invited to play the inaugural ball but declined - he said (and this was news to me) Mike's tours share either management or agents with Garth Brooks who, famously, also declined a Trump invite. I went to the other board looking for any mention of this, but Jason's disgusting and (yes) deplorable comments about the left made me pissed off and dirty. He wasn't the only one, but geez.



This is the Garth Brooks reason for declining the invite in his own words, it was because he had two shows already booked and committed. Mike, on the other hand, had a show booked for the 20th but postponed it to open the date(s):

http://ew.com/music/2017/01/16/garth-brooks-donald-trump-inauguration/

>>>Country star Garth Brooks has shed some light on why he won’t be performing at Donald Trump’s inauguration this week after previously indicating he was open to the idea.

The singer-songwriter explained in a Facebook video Monday that the popularity of his current tour will preclude him from participating in the swearing-in ceremony.

Responding to a slew of fan questions as part of his Inside Studio G series, Brooks confirmed that he was approached by casino mogul and inauguration organizer Steve Wynn about taking part in the event, and “left it up to karma.” When Brooks’ ticket sales dictated that three additional Cincinnati concerts would be added to the two already on the calendar, he found himself unavailable for Trump’s welcome party.

Brooks — who was previously asked by TMZ about his inauguration interest and said, “It’s always about serving” — also struck a conciliatory tone at a time when many high-profile artists have either publicly declined to perform at Trump’s inauguration or committed and then backed out.

In his Facebook video, Brooks said, “I’m going to tell you, with this whole presidential thing: We’ve got one going out, pray for him and his family. And for the president going in, pray for him and his family to guide this nation. Let’s stay together. Love, unity, that’s what it’s all about.”

He added, “In the immortal words of Martin Luther King, the most durable thing that we’ve known is love. It will always be that way. Again, can’t thank the Obamas enough for serving this country, and may God hold Trump’s hand in the decisions that he makes in this country’s name as well.”<<<

So is Garth bullshitting or is there more to it?

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« Reply #155 on: January 20, 2017, 09:34:23 PM »

One of my friends (who used to post herebut posts there) said on Facebook that M and B WERE invited to play the inaugural ball but declined - he said (and this was news to me) Mike's tours share either management or agents with Garth Brooks who, famously, also declined a Trump invite. I went to the other board looking for any mention of this, but Jason's disgusting and (yes) deplorable comments about the left made me pissed off and dirty. He wasn't the only one, but geez.



This is the Garth Brooks reason for declining the invite in his own words, it was because he had two shows already booked and committed. Mike, on the other hand, had a show booked for the 20th but postponed it to open the date(s):

http://ew.com/music/2017/01/16/garth-brooks-donald-trump-inauguration/

>>>Country star Garth Brooks has shed some light on why he won’t be performing at Donald Trump’s inauguration this week after previously indicating he was open to the idea.

The singer-songwriter explained in a Facebook video Monday that the popularity of his current tour will preclude him from participating in the swearing-in ceremony.

Responding to a slew of fan questions as part of his Inside Studio G series, Brooks confirmed that he was approached by casino mogul and inauguration organizer Steve Wynn about taking part in the event, and “left it up to karma.” When Brooks’ ticket sales dictated that three additional Cincinnati concerts would be added to the two already on the calendar, he found himself unavailable for Trump’s welcome party.

Brooks — who was previously asked by TMZ about his inauguration interest and said, “It’s always about serving” — also struck a conciliatory tone at a time when many high-profile artists have either publicly declined to perform at Trump’s inauguration or committed and then backed out.

In his Facebook video, Brooks said, “I’m going to tell you, with this whole presidential thing: We’ve got one going out, pray for him and his family. And for the president going in, pray for him and his family to guide this nation. Let’s stay together. Love, unity, that’s what it’s all about.”

He added, “In the immortal words of Martin Luther King, the most durable thing that we’ve known is love. It will always be that way. Again, can’t thank the Obamas enough for serving this country, and may God hold Trump’s hand in the decisions that he makes in this country’s name as well.”<<<

So is Garth bullshitting or is there more to it?



I don't believe for one moment that "scheduling conflicts" of any kind or any sort of legitimate excuse for an artist missing a show of this nature.  It's as ridiculous an excuse as Mike gave for missing the dedication ceremony in 2005 in the city of Hawthorne. 

The bottom line is, people will prioritize something that's really important to them. If they really give a sh*t in a very deep way, they will find a way to pull strings to make something happen. If there is some other reason, like fear of backlash, it's obvious that such a fear would play into a decision to not be there, and some nonsense excuse can be whipped up to avoid addressing the real reasons.
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« Reply #156 on: January 20, 2017, 10:13:21 PM »

The mild pseudo controversy of We Shall Be Free aside, Garth avoids controversy like celiacs avoid gluten. I wouldn't put it past him to say "f*** it, book me some tour dates so I can bow out gracefully."
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« Reply #157 on: January 21, 2017, 06:11:46 AM »

Right, so how does that tie someone who previously did work for Garth and now works with Mike into the decision not to play, but in Mike's case to "kind of" play surrounding events but not the main one? Is that the official, "semi official" version that's going around? It's almost hilariously absurd how there were and still are defenses of playing the gig, a total blackout has been issued on Mike's social media about the events, Mike plays *two* state-centric inauguration events of the type the "B Street Band" balked on playing, still nothing official in terms of comments, etc...now this about Garth Brooks pulling out being related to Mike via an agent or rep in common gets floated?

If I go to a pool party, eat the burgers n' chips, drink the booze, put on my trunks, jump in the pool, but don't actually swim...I guess I could say I didn't really go to the party because I was in the water but didn't swim? As Jon Lovitz used to say "Yeahhhhh...that's the ticket."
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« Reply #158 on: January 21, 2017, 10:00:56 AM »

Well, for one thing, the shows Mike did can be billed "non-partisan" all they want, but if the Texas ball had Trump's cabinet guys, then I would call that highly partisan. Hell, these are victory parties! I only mention the story about turning down the main ball because I didn't see it anywhere else.
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« Reply #159 on: January 21, 2017, 11:15:58 AM »

Well, for one thing, the shows Mike did can be billed "non-partisan" all they want, but if the Texas ball had Trump's cabinet guys, then I would call that highly partisan. Hell, these are victory parties! I only mention the story about turning down the main ball because I didn't see it anywhere else.

I'm glad you posted it, for one it shows some of what info is being passed around in light of a blackout of anything close to an official explanation, comment, or even one word concerning Mike playing these inauguration shows. It's bizarre, but not unexpected. Even fans supportive of the whole thing had to wait until two regional Florida newspapers reported on the first event Mike played this week.

The arguing and parsing words trying to "explain" the event - It's also not unexpected. But arguing that these events are not only non-partisan but also not inaugural events in an attempt I guess to distance Mike from the whole thing is an insult to readers' intelligence. Of course they're partisan, of course they're victory celebrations, even Mike in his stage banter mentioned the celebration. The Florida event was full of high level GOP politicians, cabinet position nominees, lobbyists, and power brokers, and was paid for by Gov Rick Scott's PAC. Anyone who thinks a politician's PAC isn't partisan political in nature is either naive or an idiot. The Texas event, same deal. It was a room full of GOP power brokers, politicians, cabinet nominees, etc. And ultimately both events were inaugural events.

The video of the Florida gig came from a group calling itself "Florida For Trump". I guess that's a non-partisan group?

As far as the "insider" information, I think anyone with common sense and a low tolerance for bullshit has learned to take all this stuff with a grain of salt considering the sources. When all of the hub-bub around the Beach Boys considering playing the inauguration initially broke in the entertainment press, someone who had in the past claimed to be a direct phone call away from Mike told fans the gig wouldn't be possible since Mike had another show already booked for the date. That insider info came after the band's touring schedule had already been revised to free up the date(s) of the inaugural events and postponed the show in question to another night. So, once again, a mix of caveat emptor and taking things with a grain of salt is in order.

The silence via the social media and online blackout and lack of any official word or comment speaks volumes. It's just amazing how much legalese and parsing is going on in fan circles to try to tell what I can only assume are gullible fans that 2+2 does not equal 4 regarding this whole affair.

It is also amazing that a mostly heretofore unknown Bruce Springsteen cover/tribute band generated more press than The Beach Boys, not just that but a cover band who pulled out of the New Jersey version of the inaugural events Mike played for Florida and Texas in part because it was seen as a partisan event.

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« Reply #160 on: January 21, 2017, 11:49:49 AM »

Well, for one thing, the shows Mike did can be billed "non-partisan" all they want, but if the Texas ball had Trump's cabinet guys, then I would call that highly partisan. Hell, these are victory parties! I only mention the story about turning down the main ball because I didn't see it anywhere else.

I'm glad you posted it, for one it shows some of what info is being passed around in light of a blackout of anything close to an official explanation, comment, or even one word concerning Mike playing these inauguration shows. It's bizarre, but not unexpected. Even fans supportive of the whole thing had to wait until two regional Florida newspapers reported on the first event Mike played this week.

The arguing and parsing words trying to "explain" the event - It's also not unexpected. But arguing that these events are not only non-partisan but also not inaugural events in an attempt I guess to distance Mike from the whole thing is an insult to readers' intelligence. Of course they're partisan, of course they're victory celebrations, even Mike in his stage banter mentioned the celebration. The Florida event was full of high level GOP politicians, cabinet position nominees, lobbyists, and power brokers, and was paid for by Gov Rick Scott's PAC. Anyone who thinks a politician's PAC isn't partisan political in nature is either naive or an idiot. The Texas event, same deal. It was a room full of GOP power brokers, politicians, cabinet nominees, etc. And ultimately both events were inaugural events.

The video of the Florida gig came from a group calling itself "Florida For Trump". I guess that's a non-partisan group?

As far as the "insider" information, I think anyone with common sense and a low tolerance for bullshit has learned to take all this stuff with a grain of salt considering the sources. When all of the hub-bub around the Beach Boys considering playing the inauguration initially broke in the entertainment press, someone who had in the past claimed to be a direct phone call away from Mike told fans the gig wouldn't be possible since Mike had another show already booked for the date. That insider info came after the band's touring schedule had already been revised to free up the date(s) of the inaugural events and postponed the show in question to another night. So, once again, a mix of caveat emptor and taking things with a grain of salt is in order.

The silence via the social media and online blackout and lack of any official word or comment speaks volumes. It's just amazing how much legalese and parsing is going on in fan circles to try to tell what I can only assume are gullible fans that 2+2 does not equal 4 regarding this whole affair.

It is also amazing that a mostly heretofore unknown Bruce Springsteen cover/tribute band generated more press than The Beach Boys, not just that but a cover band who pulled out of the New Jersey version of the inaugural events Mike played for Florida and Texas in part because it was seen as a partisan event.



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« Reply #161 on: January 21, 2017, 12:59:12 PM »

Yeah TRBB needs to relax a bit.... Roll Eyes

Umm...wow. I recently deleted my account from the Pet Sounds Forum because it seems like hate and racism are, at the very least, being tolerated over there. The Real Beach Boy/Jason/whoever is just seems to be a hateful guy with a real thing against "social justice warriors" and the left generally. I'd spoken to him privately a few times and seemed to realize that sometimes he went a bit overboard but lately with the Pepe the frog nonsense and the basic alt-right stance, yuck. I'm honestly surprised that he was allowed to be a Mod on this site as he is such a hatemonger.

So yeah, it's not looking like I will rejoin the alt-right Beach Boys fan site any time soon. I wanted to be part of both Smiley Smile and Pet Sounds boards, but....I don't dig racism or hate.
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« Reply #162 on: January 21, 2017, 01:33:53 PM »

TRBB seems like a character in public posts since JASON is way more relaxed and normal in PMs.
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« Reply #163 on: January 21, 2017, 03:03:51 PM »

So now that THE day has passed, I have a few questions for the forum.  All of these questions will get me back to BRI and were they involved at all in this weeks take on the MB shows.

1. When Mike plays a regular Beach Boys show, we all know these fall under the auspices of Mikes license with BRI and each principal gets their cut.  So...

2. I believe I have read here numerous times here that when Mike plays a private gig, he keeps "all" the revenue above his cost.  Thus BRI is not involved in these shows at all.  So...

3. Were both the FLA and TEXAS shows both private gigs where Mike didn't need BRI approval ??  Just a question because if Mike is out for #1 meaning $$$'s to the bottom line.  He does both these under the radar shows and quite possibly made ALOT more money than if it was a regular MB show  right ?  So...

4. He adroitly chooses not to play the inauguration due to public backlash or maybe he did have a concern about legacy (not sure about this) or maybe there actually was a BRI vote because it possibly would have been a violation of the licensing agreement.  Would this show also have been a private gig outside of BRI's normal channel ?

Looking for additional clarification on my comments and wondering if others feel the same way as I do that BRI was involved ?  I truly think Mike feels he is commander of the ship as much as it seemed he wanted to play for Trump.  Why didn't it happen?  I think Mike had these other shows lined up with or without BRI and BRI principals knowing.  I'm thinking Mike knew that 1/20 was going to be an issue on many levels, knowing this could cause issues with his BRI license, or that he actually lost the BRI vote, or he chose to go rogue and do these other quasi "non-Trump" shows.....and make more money...   Thoughts ?
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« Reply #164 on: January 21, 2017, 03:34:12 PM »

Ahh yes. The often heard of but never seen BRI license. It's come up for discussion so many times over multiple threads. Is it 100 pages or a few lines? Who knows aside from the principles and their lawyers?

Was a lot of time spent drafting the thing around 1998? Did the idea of who the shows could be for even get a thought?

Speaking hypothetically here but could the idea that say M&B playing for a liquor company was ok but a cigarette company was not, ever discussed?

I've often assumed it was a rush job myself.
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« Reply #165 on: January 21, 2017, 03:59:18 PM »

Clearly we need one of Putin's hackers to go to work on the BRI server (assuming they HAVE a server, that is...)

The most important thing is that a terrible day in American history has been followed up by a huge wave of protest and response from people all across the USA, including a ton of "California girls." Though I am away from home this weekend, I received a report from Santa Barbara (my current home town and Mike's former home town, where he cut enough of a swath to be QUITE well-remembered...) that women were out in force today, with  one of them carrying a sign that read: "MIKE LOVE...SHAME ON YOU!!"
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« Reply #166 on: January 21, 2017, 04:05:15 PM »

Pictures please! LOL
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« Reply #167 on: January 21, 2017, 04:11:14 PM »

Clearly we need one of Putin's hackers to go to work on the BRI server (assuming they HAVE a server, that is...)

The most important thing is that a terrible day in American history has been followed up by a huge wave of protest and response from people all across the USA, including a ton of "California girls." Though I am away from home this weekend, I received a report from Santa Barbara (my current home town and Mike's former home town, where he cut enough of a swath to be QUITE well-remembered...) that women were out in force today, with  one of them carrying a sign that read: "MIKE LOVE...SHAME ON YOU!!"

 w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!  Not surprised in the least and would luHv to see this made even more public so the truth gets out there on a much larger scale. Excellent reporting and you can look forward to getting your own office on Monday.
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It is also amazing that a mostly heretofore unknown Bruce Springsteen cover/tribute band generated more press than The Beach Boys, not just that but a cover band who pulled out of the New Jersey version of the inaugural events Mike played for Florida and Texas in part because it was seen as a partisan event.



And in doing so...that 'love' guy officially lost the battle of the cover bands to an unknown group of musicians equipped mainly with a sense of decency and the apparently unique knowledge of that which spells the simple difference between basic right and wrong.  Oh sh!t!!!  Given that... ... ...'love' never had a chance. Cry
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« Reply #169 on: January 21, 2017, 06:09:04 PM »

Pictures please! LOL
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« Reply #170 on: January 22, 2017, 09:59:34 PM »

+10000000000000000000000000 please
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« Reply #172 on: January 24, 2017, 07:37:42 AM »

Now there's some sleuthing....
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« Reply #173 on: January 24, 2017, 07:48:38 AM »



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« Reply #174 on: January 24, 2017, 07:49:24 AM »

HOLY sh*t! Lovegate begins!
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