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Author Topic: Who wants to Remaster this Smile Acetate for me/us?  (Read 9813 times)
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« on: January 09, 2017, 08:36:55 PM »

Hi Guys! Happy New Year!

I've been working on the Acetate containing the final vocals for the Hawaiian chant in Do You Like Worms. Carl is most predominant in the mix (It's been a while since I looked at the sessionography so I can't remember who else sings the lead with him). This tidbit is included on the Durrie Parks acetates and bootlegs. I've worked on the ORIGINAL 1966 vocal arrangement for the H&V verse so I figured I could handle this as well. Turns out it's slightly more difficult. There's A LOT A LOT of noise fuZZ on this disc. Definitely not as much as the H&V one. I've managed to remove all of the POPS during the Hawaiian section (the majority hopefully) and if someone else could at least attempt to remove the noise fuzz off the track it would make my year! I so want to clean this up as best as I can so I can add the kazoos and background vox to it.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 09:06:29 PM »

Do you have a link to the file? I could see what I can do, no promises though I'll try
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 08:10:32 AM »

Do you have a link to the file? I could see what I can do, no promises though I'll try

Sure Seagull! Btw, welcome to Smiley Smile!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1J6dC7wjXiu

Also I've already corrected the speed and gotten it down to mono so you won't need to worry about that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 08:29:40 AM »

Hey thanks!

And okay, I gave it a shot, if it isn't satisfactory I'll put a bit more of work into it haha. It loses some bottom end when i do noise removal so I'd have to find a way around that but the vocals are much much clearer now on the Hawaiian part. Let me know what you think!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1nyDRVju7b7
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 09:11:15 AM »

@leetwall97, not discounting Seagull's work by any means, but someone you may want to message is 'SonicloveNoize' (could be spelling that wrong). I believe he did a ton of vocal isolation for his Smile mix(es) and it sounded pretty tremendous. He's got an account here though I don't know if he still posts, may be worth shooting him a PM though (just search the board for the name I mentioned and you should be able to easily find his profile).

That being said, what Seagull did above is as equally impressive as what I heard on those Smile mixes, so either way you're in good hands.

Ps, I've never ever heard this or any of the Durrie Parks acetates. So much looking forward to hearing what you guys come up with with this material!
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 09:54:45 AM »

Hey thanks!

And okay, I gave it a shot, if it isn't satisfactory I'll put a bit more of work into it haha. It loses some bottom end when i do noise removal so I'd have to find a way around that but the vocals are much much clearer now on the Hawaiian part. Let me know what you think!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1nyDRVju7b7

W Shocked W! This sounds much much better. What program are you using to do this? In fact, how are you doing this? The only complaint I have is that it's too isolated. Give it some fuzz. The track needs some breathing room.

You even removed the pops too! Wow. It doesn't surprise me there's an algorithm to that. I worked on the pops for 3 hours yesterday removing them each individually!

Btw, do you think you could do the same on the others?

@leetwall97, not discounting Seagull's work by any means, but someone you may want to message is 'SonicloveNoize' (could be spelling that wrong). I believe he did a ton of vocal isolation for his Smile mix(es) and it sounded pretty tremendous. He's got an account here though I don't know if he still posts, may be worth shooting him a PM though (just search the board for the name I mentioned and you should be able to easily find his profile).

That being said, what Seagull did above is as equally impressive as what I heard on those Smile mixes, so either way you're in good hands.

Ps, I've never ever heard this or any of the Durrie Parks acetates. So much looking forward to hearing what you guys come up with with this material!

Yes I DO believe he's still on the board. I've debated with him about Bridge to Indians before. I'd love to hear his work. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Btw, I can't wait to hear what we do with it too!
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 09:57:20 AM »

Leetwall, what Durrie Parks acetated and titbits do you have?

Wasn't you that bought them was it?  LOL

Seriously, have they been booted? What about the H&V assembly containing Great Shape?  I'm sure I'd have heard about it if that had surfaced.

By the way, absolutely loved the Child insert into the late piano version of Wonderful you did. Definitely one of those YES! moments.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 10:20:13 AM »

Leetwall, what Durrie Parks acetated and titbits do you have?

Wasn't you that bought them was it?  LOL

Seriously, have they been booted? What about the H&V assembly containing Great Shape?  I'm sure I'd have heard about it if that had surfaced.

By the way, absolutely loved the Child insert into the late piano version of Wonderful you did. Definitely one of those YES! moments.

I honestly don't have much. Just 2 or 3 really important things (to me). I have one of the alternate versions of Bicycle Rider (there's 2 apparently).

I'm going off this btw
http://recordmecca.com/item-archives/beach-boys-8-original-smile-acetates-from-the-collection-of-van-dyke-parks/

I have Disc 2 basically, and it's great. I would love to hear Discs 1, 4 and 7.

I WISH I HAD BOUGHT THEM! I tried tracking them down but to no avail. I'd imagine we'll never hear them. They're in the hands of a "Private Collector".

Wow! Thanks a million HV! I honestly thought no one'd heard that mix. I remember finding the melody for that piece awhile back but I've forgotten it now. It's similar to All Day's melody. I was going to finish that but I needed the vocals from the Smiley Smile version of Wonderful but I couldn't isolate them. Maybe I can get Soniclovenoize to help me out on this!

Btw, I sent the file you asked for to your email.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 10:57:57 AM »

I'm sure you read this thread, but if not it makes interesting reading,  especially from page 5 onwards, look for Andy, reply 113

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,15304.100.html

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 11:18:34 AM »

Okay I can just reduce the fuzz instead of removing it too. And I'm just using a noise removal thing for Adobe Audition nothing crazy. Ill happily do the same to other tracks just link them. I'll try to give it more breathing room
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2017, 11:38:32 AM »

Also is this what you wanted as far as fuzz go?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lDMCkHKZzd
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2017, 12:01:16 PM »

Also is this what you wanted as far as fuzz go?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lDMCkHKZzd

Somewhat. I just wanted a light amount of fuzz (I should've been more specific). This is ample breathing room so thanks for it!

In order for it to sound good, it's got to contain some very faint and light fuzz. But the major fuzz needs to be taken out. Something in between this and your first attempt (maybe closer to your first attempt).
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2017, 12:07:53 PM »

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DtyZTFpEhL

I focused on the hawaiin section. Anyways I'd love to take a crack at the others. You can PM me if you want
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2017, 12:31:31 PM »

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DtyZTFpEhL

I focused on the hawaiin section. Anyways I'd love to take a crack at the others. You can PM me if you want

YES Seagull! That's it! That's exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks so much for putting up with my pickiness! Very thoughtful of you.

Here's the original H&V Verse from 1966:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EV6eUmlSam

There's really no fuzz problem here. Just some light popping throughout.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2017, 12:34:50 PM »

I wonder if somebody could isolate the "backing vocals" for the second verse of "Do You Like Worms?"?
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2017, 12:39:47 PM »

In the process of moving, otherwise I'd take a stab at it
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2017, 12:45:20 PM »

Not to get too off topic, but someone on YouTube actually did a pretty good job isolating the truck driving man lyrics from cabinessense. It's phenomenal what you can do with audio programs these days.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2017, 12:48:13 PM »

yeah I heard that! Really cool to finally hear with some clarity what Dennis is saying. And Jay are you referring to what is behind the Hawaiian chant or the hum de do da hum de da da vocals after the first chorus?
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2017, 12:50:10 PM »

I used to have the "truck driving man" isolated part, but I lost it. I'd love to have the backing vocals for the second verse of DYLW isolated, and the "cornucopia" verse of Vega-Tables isolated without the laughing sounds.
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2017, 12:51:17 PM »

Not to get too off topic, but someone on YouTube actually did a pretty good job isolating the truck driving man lyrics from cabinessense. It's phenomenal what you can do with audio programs these days.

Whoever did that really deserves praise. That reminds me, I need to get it before YouTube takes it off (they will when I finally need it).

I don't understand why they changed/left out some lyrics. You can easily use all of the words in the Truck Drivin' Man rant than the Telephone Direct one.

I used to have the "truck driving man" isolated part, but I lost it. I'd love to have the backing vocals for the second verse of DYLW isolated, and the "cornucopia" verse of Vega-Tables isolated without the laughing sounds.

You mean this?
https://youtu.be/us-HaAZ42Uw?t=4m18s

Regarding the Original Vaga-Tables; Do you want the full Instrumental without laughs or the Vocals without laughs?
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2017, 12:53:59 PM »

yeah I heard that! Really cool to finally hear with some clarity what Dennis is saying. And Jay are you referring to what is behind the Hawaiian chant or the hum de do da hum de da da vocals after the first chorus?
It's the part that was released with the speed problem on the Good Vibrations set. The "hum be do da, hum ba da da" chant.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2017, 12:57:34 PM »

Not to get too off topic, but someone on YouTube actually did a pretty good job isolating the truck driving man lyrics from cabinessense. It's phenomenal what you can do with audio programs these days.

Whoever did that really deserves praise. That reminds me, I need to get it before YouTube takes it off (they will when I finally need it).

I don't understand why they changed/left out some lyrics. You can easily use all of the words in the Truck Drivin' Man rant than the Telephone Direct one.

I used to have the "truck driving man" isolated part, but I lost it. I'd love to have the backing vocals for the second verse of DYLW isolated, and the "cornucopia" verse of Vega-Tables isolated without the laughing sounds.

You mean this?
https://youtu.be/us-HaAZ42Uw?t=4m18s

Regarding the Original Vaga-Tables; Do you want the full Instrumental without laughs or the Vocals without laughs?
Actually, I didn't know that the part I'm talking about was part of that montage.  LOL I never listened to the montage.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2017, 01:02:53 PM »

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VDQobRgwqO


this is just a quick attempt, I'm struggling with some of it so someone more qualified than me I welcome to take a stab at it! I definitely can help more with fuzz than pops haha
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2017, 09:05:42 PM »

Hey guys I was bored so I spent an hour or so making a stereo worm mix (as best I could) with Carl's vocal included it. IT has some tech errors here and there and yeah I did cheat with some 2004 stuff but oh well. Let me know what you thing and thanks to LeetWall for lending me the sample.  Cheesy 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0JaXxBNwx7Q
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2017, 09:19:37 PM »

Hey guys I was bored so I spent an hour or so making a stereo worm mix (as best I could) with Carl's vocal included it. IT has some tech errors here and there and yeah I did cheat with some 2004 stuff but oh well. Let me know what you thing and thanks to LeetWall for lending me the sample.  Cheesy 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0JaXxBNwx7Q

Flippin wonderful. I love mixes that include the 2004 Smile vocals (wherever they're needed). That transition to the Mahalos is killer. Any other plans to work on other Smile material?
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