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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2017, 07:40:17 AM »

Actually--and I am not kidding--I understand that her album is a concept album.

Oh, sh*t.
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And, for anyone who has actually experienced them, surfing and cars carry PLENTY of emotion and life experience. They can carry as much metaphor as any Van Dyke Parks clever epistle.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2017, 07:44:19 AM »

To be fair, I don't know whether it's explicitly a narrative, or just thematic. But it is to some extent, from what I've read, a concept album. (See how I'm withholding the concept to avoid polluting your mind, pre-listen, though? Respecting your preferences!)
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2017, 07:51:30 AM »

By the way, since we're about a quarter of the way through the year, here's my little recap of what's been going on from my perspective.

Best albums (alphabetical order):
Aimee Mann, Mental Illness
Cotton Mather, Wild Kingdom
Craig Finn, We All Want the Same Thing
Dirty Projectors, s/t
Thundercat, Drunk

Also pretty good and/or too soon to tell (also alphabetical):
Jens Lekman, Life Will See You Now
Jesca Hoop, Memories Are Now
Kendrick Lamar, DAMN.
Laura Marling, Semper Femina
Valerie June, The Order of Time

Most disappointing:
Magnetic Fields, 50 Song Memoir
The Shins, Heartworms

Most anticipated:
The Mountain Goats, Goths
any potential albums rumored coming from Earl Sweatshirt and Neutral Milk Hotel
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2017, 07:52:05 AM »

Good idea since the Captain is more influential than Pitckfork these days....
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2017, 07:56:10 AM »

Heh, I think Conde Nast's financials would prove that to be inaccurate.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2017, 07:57:23 AM »

Its about the ART! Cool Guy
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2017, 07:58:53 AM »

You take the art, I'll take the income.
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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2017, 08:01:00 AM »

I must admit I've not heard many albums from this year so far. Nothing really piqued my interest until now with Kendrick. And I've been busy catching up on Prince, The Police, Roxy Music, OutKast, T. Rex, Marvin Gaye, Bruce Springsteen, ABBA and a few others.
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2017, 08:02:41 AM »

I've been trying to keep up, but it has been hit and miss. There are a few things out there I meant to check out (Your Old Droog, Conor Oberst) that I haven't even gotten around to sampling yet. So much music, so little time. Especially when work gets in the way.

Speaking of, I'm "working from home" at the moment. Which means fucking around here and listening to music. And people wonder why I don't post under my real name...
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2017, 08:03:05 AM »

Deep Purple released their new album last Friday.  I've heard one song.  Pretty good for later era Purple (sans Blackmore / Lord).  Haven't purchased it yet.  

Funny you mention Springsteen, Ovi.  I've been on a kick lately.  I just bought myself a copy of Live 1975-85
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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2017, 08:04:16 AM »

Funny you mention Springsteen, Ovi.  I've been on a kick lately.  I just bought myself a copy of Live 1975-85

He's great! I've been playing The River and Nebraska lately. Born to Run is an old favorite, total masterpiece.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2017, 08:05:50 AM »

Tunnel of Love is pretty good as well.
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2017, 08:06:36 AM »

And everybody raves about Mount Eerie's A Crow Looked at Me. Has anybody here heard it (captain?)
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2017, 08:07:27 AM »

Nebraska
I think it's his best, though there is stiff competition (primarily from the other albums you named, really). To me, that's his greatest masterpiece.
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2017, 08:14:12 AM »

And everybody raves about Mount Eerie's A Crow Looked at Me. Has anybody here heard it (captain?)

This will sound a bit tactless, but is that the one by a guy whose wife died (about his wife's death, etc)? If so, I literally just sampled the iTunes free snippets of a few songs and didn't know what to think of it quite yet. (If not, then no.) I'm always a little hesitant to embrace "tragedy art." It's almost as if the listener is guilted into liking it. I've referenced it a thousand times over the years, but there was an interesting controversy about the choreographer Bill T. Jones's piece "Still / Here" when I was in college. If I recall the controversy properly, it was a dance piece in which (non-dancer) AIDS sufferers were featured. Some prominent critic refused to review the piece, basically saying that it was unfair: a critic who too-heavily criticized the (again, non-dancer) performances would be seen as a heartless asshole; yet from a technical perspective, how could it be otherwise? I believe the non-reviewer called it "victim art."

That concept has stuck with me since that time. Whether I see mentally ill artists (Daniel Johnston ... or sometimes, Brian Wilson) seemingly trotted out, or see the inevitable "breakup album," or whatever other variation on the theme, I always feel a bit queasy and want to proceed with caution.

But all that said, art is and always has been inspired by tragedy as much as, if not more than, by triumph. And of course there is a difference between someone unprofessional or incompetent being (potentially) used versus a talented professional taking inspiration from the dark side. So there's nothing absolute here. It's just something often in my mind.
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2017, 08:24:48 AM »

And everybody raves about Mount Eerie's A Crow Looked at Me. Has anybody here heard it (captain?)

This will sound a bit tactless, but is that the one by a guy whose wife died (about his wife's death, etc)? If so, I literally just sampled the iTunes free snippets of a few songs and didn't know what to think of it quite yet. (If not, then no.) I'm always a little hesitant to embrace "tragedy art." It's almost as if the listener is guilted into liking it. I've referenced it a thousand times over the years, but there was an interesting controversy about the choreographer Bill T. Jones's piece "Still / Here" when I was in college. If I recall the controversy properly, it was a dance piece in which (non-dancer) AIDS sufferers were featured. Some prominent critic refused to review the piece, basically saying that it was unfair: a critic who too-heavily criticized the (again, non-dancer) performances would be seen as a heartless asshole; yet from a technical perspective, how could it be otherwise? I believe the non-reviewer called it "victim art."

That concept has stuck with me since that time. Whether I see mentally ill artists (Daniel Johnston ... or sometimes, Brian Wilson) seemingly trotted out, or see the inevitable "breakup album," or whatever other variation on the theme, I always feel a bit queasy and want to proceed with caution.

But all that said, art is and always has been inspired by tragedy as much as, if not more than, by triumph. And of course there is a difference between someone unprofessional or incompetent being (potentially) used versus a talented professional taking inspiration from the dark side. So there's nothing absolute here. It's just something often in my mind.

Yeah, it's that one. I hear what you're saying, but I actually get excited when I hear a story like that because it means there's a chance we'll get some music that goes a bit in an extreme, if you know what I mean. I think a lot of music today is too tame, not even bad, but just transparent, especially in the indie rock and singer-songwriter fields. If this is another Bon Iver, count me out.
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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2017, 08:27:45 AM »

I agree with your sentiment, but maybe my problem is that half the time the tragedy albums feel every bit as fake and belabored as a Taylor Swift post-performance "surprised gratitude" face. ("Oh my gosh, you're clapping for li'l ol' me!?") I hear less honesty than many people seem to hear. Actually I think I was saying something like that to Smile Brian not that long ago: I think the "authenticity" people hear isn't usually there.
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2017, 08:30:15 AM »

Yeah, "authenticity" really depends on if you are a fan of the artist in the first place.
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2017, 08:34:16 AM »

Funny you mention Springsteen, Ovi.  I've been on a kick lately.  I just bought myself a copy of Live 1975-85

He's great! I've been playing The River and Nebraska lately. Born to Run is an old favorite, total masterpiece.

My go to albums are Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town. 
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2017, 08:59:23 AM »

Minneapolis-based musician Jeremy Messersmith--whose mid-60s-Beatlesque album The Reluctant Graveyard a few years ago was absolutely fantastic--has a new album out today, too: 11 Obscenely Optimistic Songs For Ukelele: A Micro-Folk Record For the 21st Century and Beyond. Sound a bit twee for your tastes? Well, yeah. But he's good, and it's $7, so whatever. He also put out the songbook for it first, a couple weeks back, encouraging fans to record and post their versions prior to the album's release. (I got the songbook but never got around to looking at it.) Kind of interesting approach.

I like this song best so far (of the four I've gotten through), "Love Sweet Love": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PutswpbiikU
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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »

By the way, since we've had some Springsteen talk here today, I really think that his fans may want to check out Craig Finn's new album, We All Want the Same Things. Finn was in Lifter Puller and the Hold Steady, and has done a few solo albums. Of that history, I've only really liked one album (Hold Steady's Boys and Girls in America from 06 or 07). But this is some of his best writing and the tracks are nice, too. Sometimes it rocks (in a very Springsteen kind of way: not HARD rock, but rock), though there are softer moments as well.
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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2017, 01:34:20 PM »

Listened to the new Kendrick album twice now. What'd y'all think?

If I recall correctly, I really enjoyed "Fear." I'm not crazy about Bono being on this album, but that track isn't unlistenable. Also, rumors of a second album (sort of an Easter-type album resurrection?) to be released on Sunday?
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« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2017, 02:12:51 PM »

Also, rumors of a second album (sort of an Easter-type album resurrection?) to be released on Sunday?

Hadn't heard that. Interesting. That would also be, what, three albums released within the past year or so? (untitled unmastered, DAMN, and the new one.) I like it. As a listener, my preference is usually for the (earlier) Dylan, Prince, Zappa, Reed school: put out a sh*t-ton of work and let someone else figure out whether it's any good.
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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2017, 02:19:58 PM »

Cap, what do you think of Bob Dylan's new album?
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« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2017, 02:23:55 PM »

Haven't listened and don't really plan to, to be honest. I enjoyed the first standards album, to a moderate degree. I was entirely unenthused for the second. This one, I just can't even pretend to care, despite a good friend's insistence that it has some absolutely glorious moments (which I don't doubt). But while I don't doubt the man's capacity to perform inspired renditions of standards, it's not what I seek from him. It may well be my loss. I don't doubt that after he dies, I'll eventually get to it as I dig into the corners and crevices of his output. But for now? I just can't quite care. I'm too into Cotton Mather.
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