Mike's 2 new tracks on PBS Stuff

[SMiLE Brian]

Now the waters have gotten really muddy.

[guitarfool2002]

[guitarfool2002]

It seems like there were two separate thumb drives with these 50th packages. Could one have been a UK package and the other a US package?

With the difference being the addition of a Noven Jaisi video which has been on YouTube...I can't see the benefit. Maybe someday the entire "Still Tourin'" documentary that Noven was teasing via YouTube will be on a thumb drive too.

Nor can I see where the benefit would be by including a modern remake of Sloop John B tacked to the '66 promo film. But I'm repeating myself.

Anyone else hear that intro as vintage '66 audio before it goes into the modern remake?

[Robbie Mac]

That definitely sounded like the 1966 intro.

[CenturyDeprived]

That definitely sounded like the 1966 intro.

I agree it sounds just like it. When I first heard it, I thought that Mike's band was doing a dead-on imitation, but maybe it's a lift of the actual track?

I guess the actual waveforms could be compared for a conclusive answer?

As tacky as I think that is to use the actual 1966 recorded intro (if that's what is in fact on here), I have to say that it comparatively didn't bother me (due to context) when the original Do It Again drum intro was used on the 2011 Do It Again remake. Probably because the point was for the band to be reunited, and it was more like a Free As A Bird type of lifting a deceased bandmember's part as an homage. 

[Patricia Ferrelli]

The date on the properties on my USB flash is May 20.  Maybe later versions of this drive did not include the second video. 

Very interesting. Patricia (or anyone else), do you have the USB drive from last year’s tour? HeyJude mentioned it earlier in the thread and I’m still very curious as to what’s on it.

Unfortunately, I didn't get last year's USB drive from last year.  I know that in 2014, the USB drive had the complete "Shut Down Vol. 2" and "All Summer Long" albums.

[DonnyL]

Aside from the mysteries discussed in this thread ... WHY IS MIKE'S TEAM SELLING USB DRIVES? What a weird thing to sell.

[guitarfool2002]

That definitely sounded like the 1966 intro.

I agree it sounds just like it. When I first heard it, I thought that Mike's band was doing a dead-on imitation, but maybe it's a lift of the actual track?

I guess the actual waveforms could be compared for a conclusive answer?

As tacky as I think that is to use the actual 1966 recorded intro (if that's what is in fact on here), I have to say that it comparatively didn't bother me (due to context) when the original Do It Again drum intro was used on the 2011 Do It Again remake. Probably because the point was for the band to be reunited, and it was more like a Free As A Bird type of lifting a deceased bandmember's part as an homage. 

The difference is who was participating on "Do It Again" as The Beach Boys 5 years ago and the purpose of that, versus a remake of Sloop that's under a Beach Boys umbrella, cut to footage of the song's original 1966 promo film featuring the Beach Boys, yet only has Mike prominently featured on the track.

If the USB drive had featured the original '66 promo with the original audio track from '66, it wouldn't be an issue at all. If the track were billed as a Mike Love solo track specific to a Mike Love release and not "The Beach Boys", the issues would be far less muddy. But neither happened.

[Fall Breaks]

Aren't Mike and Bruce using the original Sloop intro when playing the song live? As a sample on Tim's keyboard? If so, it's not a long stretch to think that they used that for the rerecording, is it?

[guitarfool2002]

The stretch isn't that they used it, the stretch is asking what purpose does it serve to have Mike putting out remakes or what amounts to cover/tribute versions of 50 year old songs and putting them with the original film instead of just including the original package from '66 intact.

Question for "Fall Breaks" : What other audio samples from the original records are the band running samples of at their live shows? Some pointed out Good Vibrations based on a few video appearances where they played it live, are there others?

[HeyJude]

An even simpler alternative, if Mike was inclined to include video footage on a USB drive, would be to just put some footage from his live show on it. Even just take one of those lazy Noven Jaisi clip job compilations and set Mike's re-recording to that.

Or he could have even shot video of the recording session for the re-recording and used b-roll footage from that.

BRI should be concerned about how original BB footage, the BB name and trademark, vis-à-vis Mike's tour and solo recordings are being billed and marketed.

[guitarfool2002]

That concern would possibly be shared by both BRI and Capitol. The muddying of the waters between what is a Beach Boys recording versus a Mike Love recording wouldn't seem to do much for promoting the legacy of the original recordings, that legacy being a topic that came up even in the interviews with Jim Hirsch. There has to be a standard moving forward.

[CenturyDeprived]

Surprised Mike missed the opportunity to market it as Surfin' USB.

[SMiLE Brian]

 

[HeyJude]

I would guess a fair amount of VIP package buyers never even do anything with the USB, especially if it has some other function (bookmark, etc.).

Who still sticks a USB into a computer to extract a video file?

The whole thing seems very late 90s, when audio CD's were "enhanced" with little pixelated Quicktime videos you had to extract via computer.

You'd think they'd just cut the manufacturing cost out and just e-mail people audio or video exclusives.

[tpesky]

Surprised Mike missed the opportunity to market it as Surfin' USB.

Winner! 

In all seriousness, I think if the shoe was on the other foot MIke would be all over this claiming the brand is being weakened. He went after Alan and Brian for seemingly less. I don't think Brian and Al want the fight at this stage of the game.  Capitol on the other hand might.

[guitarfool2002]

Surprised Mike missed the opportunity to market it as Surfin' USB.

November 7th can now stand as the day when you won the internet with that post. 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

[mathen_]

Just listened to it, ugh. There's no reason to do that, Love.
By the way, I'm 99% sure that the intro is a the original recording, but half-step higher and with some frequency filtering on it. If you listen carefully, you can hear a quiet thump in the background, on the last beat of the first measure in both the original and Love's rerecording. There's also some conversation in the background, something that is not very likely to be caught in modern recordings. The characteristic hiss in the intro also stops once Love's vocals come in.

https://vimeo.com/189864245

[CenturyDeprived]

Surprised Mike missed the opportunity to market it as Surfin' USB.

November 7th can now stand as the day when you won the internet with that post. 

I'm honored Mike really should use that slogan!