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« on: October 15, 2016, 02:45:23 PM »

From Brix Smith Start of The Fall's autobiography, when describing her childhood karate class in California:

"I was the only girl in my class and was expected to spar with boys and men.  I soon worked my way up to yellow belt and then to orange.  One of the boys in my class was the chubby, shy son of Carl Wilson, the lead guitarist in the Beach Boys.  Of course, growing up in Southern California meant the Beach Boys were akin to God.  Everyone got excited when Carl came to watch the sparring.  Every time I had to spar this boy, I'd kick the bejesus out of him to the tune of Good Vibrations running through my head."
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 06:12:26 PM »

 LOL That is a great story.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 07:34:50 PM »

You've made my day by posting this!
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 01:43:24 PM »

Hold on...

Let's cut Jonah and/or Justyn some slack here.   Brix Smith doesn't mention that she is quite a bit older than Carl's sons.  Wikipedia says she was born in '62, making her ~7-9 years older than the Brothers Wilson.   Is, say, a 17-year-old Brix 'kicking the bejeesus out of' an 8-10 year old Wilson lad really anything to brag about?  I'm getting visions here of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer's karate success is the result of him being in a dojo with little kids.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 01:48:38 PM »

Hold on...

Let's cut Jonah and/or Justyn some slack here.   Brix Smith doesn't mention that she is quite a bit older than Carl's sons.  Wikipedia says she was born in '62, making her ~7-9 years older than the Brothers Wilson.   Is, say, a 17-year-old Brix 'kicking the bejeesus out of' an 8-10 year old Wilson lad really anything to brag about?  I'm getting visions here of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer's karate success is the result of him being in a dojo with little kids.



LOL I was JUST about to reference that Seinfield episode!
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 02:11:49 PM »

Agreed. Why is this a great story? I've met both Jonah and Justyn (quickly in passing) and they were both very kind. Has somebody had some bad experience with them that would make them relish either of them getting their "butt kicked"?  Strange. Anyway, good for her "dominating the dojo"
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2016, 02:12:39 PM »

They should have called in Rocky or one of the Love brothers to kick her ass
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 02:36:24 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2016, 08:39:50 PM »

Women beating up on boys seems acceptable here. Mods ok with this? Where are the feminist social justice warriors?
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2016, 12:48:27 PM »

That would be cool if Brix Smith kicked your ass, Joe!
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2016, 02:50:55 PM »

It's likely that Jonah and Justyn are, like their dad, pacifists.  It's also likely that the brothers are/were gentlemen and much too nice to try to kick a girl's butt, even if she was basically a grown woman and they were both little boys.

So, go ahead Brix and brag about your conquest over one of Carl's sons.  I'm sure Carl Wilson taught his sons to never hit a girl, even a doofus like the one who bragged about beating a child at karate.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2016, 02:59:02 PM »

Women beating up on boys seems acceptable here. Mods ok with this? Where are the feminist social justice warriors?

NO it's not acceptable. What's up with the "feminist social justice warrior' comment, though?
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2016, 03:04:02 PM »

Ugh. Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2016, 04:29:06 PM »

Brix Smith is a fucking amazing badass goddess and this is just a silly anecdote in her rad book. CHILL, Y'ALL!
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2016, 06:18:51 PM »

Well ofc it isn't OK for bigs to beat littles but you must rmbr that 1) this is karate class, not street fight & 2) Carl agreed to his son attending that class & obviously wasn't against it when he watched her beating Jonah (iir Justyn was skinny as a boy). Besides, she did what you see in many celebrity autobios - namechecked the other celebrity. That's it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2016, 09:54:17 PM »

Women beating up on boys seems acceptable here. Mods ok with this? Where are the feminist social justice warriors?

NO it's not acceptable. What's up with the "feminist social justice warrior' comment, though?

If it were genders reversed, it would be a hot topic.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2016, 09:57:59 PM »

That's a load of crap.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2016, 10:16:44 PM »

Actually, I agree with Joe 100%.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2016, 10:27:44 PM »

The extract as quoted by the OP has tidbit "...Carl came to watch the sparring". It seemed acceptable to *him* to see his son being beaten by the 17-year-old. What the hell's the gender got to do with it? It's just little short story, for god's sake.
Edit: if anybody would like to discuss gender privileges (F vs. M), start thread in the Sandbox. The main point behind the OP was to share sth. BBs-related with fellow BBs fans. Let's not ruin this nice thread with serious things not germane to it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2016, 12:00:36 AM »

Actually, I agree with Joe 100%.

We'll agree to disagree in this case. It just bothers me that I always hear/read things like "well if it was a woman/black person/whatever "....it is so tiring. Many of the bigots I have the misfortune of dealing with in this sh*t hole known as Texas love to toss that out
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2016, 04:56:46 AM »

I'm confused.  I confess I didn't know who this Brix Smith person was so I looked her up.  Apparently, she and her mother moved to Chicago in 1972 so I'm a little unclear how she beat up Carl's son when she was 17?  Also, wasn't Jonah born in 1969? 
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2016, 09:12:04 AM »

I'm confused.  I confess I didn't know who this Brix Smith person was so I looked her up.  Apparently, she and her mother moved to Chicago in 1972 so I'm a little unclear how she beat up Carl's son when she was 17?  Also, wasn't Jonah born in 1969? 

 Brix apparently moved back to LA as a teen to live with her father, an unnamed psychiatrist who resided in Malibu Canyon.  From the placement of the anecdote in her book, her karate career seems to have taken place at some point after August 1977.  Brix says that she was enrolled in 9th grade at Paul Revere Jr High in LA, and after allegedly encountering threatening behavior from some Latino classmates, her father enrolled her in Ed Parker's School of Karate.  We don't know exactly when, but based on the year maybe she was 15 to Jonah's 8, or 16 vs 9.  The point about the Krameresque dojo-domination still stands.  In any case, we're spending way too much time on this inane little anecdote that may or may not have much basis in reality.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2016, 11:29:52 AM »

You can't help but feel bad for Carl's son, or anyone in that position. But geez, this was a karate class. The kid didn't corner Carl's son in an alley and beat him up and take his lunch money. In the class, they make you spar.

I'm not a karate training expert, but I would hope/assume that at some point if two are grossly mismatched and/or someone is getting seriously injured, they do something about it.

Read Scott Wilson's (son of Dennis) book. *That's* an unfortunate and continuous series of stories. I'll bet he would have loved to suffer simply getting emasculated in a karate class by someone way older than him.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2016, 01:48:27 PM »

Actually, I agree with Joe 100%.

We'll agree to disagree in this case. It just bothers me that I always hear/read things like "well if it was a woman/black person/whatever "....it is so tiring. Many of the bigots I have the misfortune of dealing with in this sh*t hole known as Texas love to toss that out

It may bother you,but it happens. I guess I understand that you are for double standards. Got it.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2016, 02:06:43 PM »

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Excuse me? I am not for double standards.  You don't know two things about me if you think that. 
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