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harrisonjon
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1) To my ears, in the mono mix of Cabinessence on the 2011 TSS, "iron" seems to be pronounced with a hard "r" as in "irony".
2) One reason to dislike Barbara Ann: pronouncing the name Barbaran.
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I have a cousin named Deirdre. It's pronounced "Dee-dra". I don't know any other Deirdres and perhaps it's my own family pronouncing it wrong, but the first time I heard "Deer-dree" I was like WTF?
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"Deer-dree" is how we pronounce it in the UK, but it seems an odd name to use in a song, unless she was another masseuse like Marcella.
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Quote from: harrisonjon on October 05, 2016, 09:11:01 AM
"Deer-dree" is how we pronounce it in the UK
Fair enough. It just sounded strange to my ears. But I'm used to it now
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How about Brian's French in "At My Window?"
And of course there's Al's comedy voice on "Take Good Care of Your Feet"...
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Quote from: SCaroline Z on October 05, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: harrisonjon on October 05, 2016, 09:11:01 AM
"Deer-dree" is how we pronounce it in the UK
Fair enough. It just sounded strange to my ears. But I'm used to it now
I've always pronounced it, and heard it pronounced, as Dee-ah-dree.
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Thank you for this topic, it's been on my mind. I think I have heard Al pronounce away as "ay-way" on a couple of songs, and it irritates the heck out of me. Then again, I've heard that pronunciation in non-BB songs as well, so maybe there's something especially musical about it.
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Quote from: SCaroline Z on October 05, 2016, 09:06:44 AM
I have a cousin named Deirdre. It's pronounced "Dee-dra". I don't know any other Deirdres and perhaps it's my own family pronouncing it wrong, but the first time I heard "Deer-dree" I was like WTF?
Names are sketchy, because people often just make up their own spellings and/or pronunciations.
I always assumed it was pronounced "Dee-dra" if it was spelled "Deidre", and then "Deer-dree" sounded not totally off for the "Deirdre" spelling. But maybe it's half wrong and it's supposed to be "Deer-dra." When there an "R" in the first syllable though, "Dee-dra" doesn't sound right.
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Less a pronunciation and more a stylized choice, the "Califor-nye-a" thing is something that I never paid a great deal of attention to, but in recent years I had someone who obviously had less exposure to BB classics who was all "Wtf?" when they heard them sing "Calior-nye-a" in a recording.
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For native Japanese or French speakers: how accurate is Mike's accent in Sumahama and Bells of Paris?
I'm assuming that he sung the lyrics phonetically.
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In reference to the "miss my pad" vs. "miss my pet" debate on "That's Not Me", if he *is* meaning to sing "pet", then it's a relatively bizarre pronunciation of "pet."
I've heard people who have claimed to ask Mike himself and Mike has said it's "pet", but I still hear "pad."
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In Desert Drive, Foskett sings "coyote" as "Kie - Oat" rather than "Kie - Oat - E".
It annoys the poop out of me.
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Quote from: Loaf on October 05, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
In Desert Drive, Foskett sings "coyote" as "Kie - Oat" rather than "Kie - Oat - E".
It annoys the poop out of me.
Probably because singing it with three syllables sounds even clunkier
But yeah, it's a bit of a funny pronunciation, I'm guessing a regional reference of some sort.
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I've heard it pronounced "kie-oats" many times by different people.
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Quote from: HeyJude on October 05, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Less a pronunciation and more a stylized choice, the "Califor-nye-a" thing is something that I never paid a great deal of attention to, but in recent years I had someone who obviously had less exposure to BB classics who was all "Wtf?" when they heard them sing "Calior-nye-a" in a recording.
I've always heard it as "Californ-i-a" (or "Californ-eye-aye"), and I always thought of it as a nick-name for the state more than a pronunciation choice. Similar to how "Californy" is used in the Beverly Hillbillies Theme.
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"Californy-ah" is pronounced that way in "Cal Saga" so that it will rhyme with "sunny day."
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Quote from: kermit27 on October 05, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
Quote from: HeyJude on October 05, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Less a pronunciation and more a stylized choice, the "Califor-nye-a" thing is something that I never paid a great deal of attention to, but in recent years I had someone who obviously had less exposure to BB classics who was all "Wtf?" when they heard them sing "Calior-nye-a" in a recording.
I've always heard it as "Californ-i-a" (or "Californ-eye-aye"), and I always thought of it as a nick-name for the state more than a pronunciation choice. Similar to how "Californy" is used in the Beverly Hillbillies Theme.
Yes, I agree. Like I said, I don't think it's a mispronunciation, but rather a stylization for effect, more to shoehorn a rhyme in than anything else. I just thought it was an interesting perspective from a non-fan that it was arguably kind of lazy and silly to rhyme "USA" with "California" by stylizing it as "Califor-nye-a" (regardless of whether the second syllable ends with the "n"; it's stretched out the same way).
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Quote from: HeyJude on October 06, 2016, 06:17:53 AM
Quote from: kermit27 on October 05, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
Quote from: HeyJude on October 05, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Less a pronunciation and more a stylized choice, the "Califor-nye-a" thing is something that I never paid a great deal of attention to, but in recent years I had someone who obviously had less exposure to BB classics who was all "Wtf?" when they heard them sing "Calior-nye-a" in a recording.
I've always heard it as "Californ-i-a" (or "Californ-eye-aye"), and I always thought of it as a nick-name for the state more than a pronunciation choice. Similar to how "Californy" is used in the Beverly Hillbillies Theme.
Yes, I agree. Like I said, I don't think it's a mispronunciation, but rather a stylization for effect, more to shoehorn a rhyme in than anything else. I just thought it was an interesting perspective from a non-fan that it was arguably kind of lazy and silly to rhyme "USA" with "California" by stylizing it as "Califor-nye-a" (regardless of whether the second syllable ends with the "n"; it's stretched out the same way).
Imagine how odd it would have been if, instead of changing the pronunciation of "California" to shoehorn the rhyme in, they changed the pronunciation of "day" to rhyme with "California"?
"On my way to sunny California On my way to spend another sunny duh"
Not quite the same ring
There is definitely an art to the shoehorn.
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Brian sings "I miss my house" on this tour.
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In "Livin' with a heartache" Carl sings the word "miss" as "mish". Rmbr the now dead Shut Down board? There was thread where smb. said that Carl had unusual accent from any of the BBs, then the other poster replied that it's Californian accent to which smb. else replied that there isn't such thing as "Californian" accent & further debates. I don't think they got to the bottom. Would like to know, maybe it [the accent] has diff. name?
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on October 13, 2016, 01:28:32 AM
Would like to know, maybe it [the accent] has diff. name?
Alcohol? He sounds drunk on that song.
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Quote from: Rick5150 on October 13, 2016, 01:48:50 AM
Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on October 13, 2016, 01:28:32 AM
Would like to know, maybe it [the accent] has diff. name?
Alcohol? He sounds drunk on that song.
That's because he was. It's in the liner notes for the KTSA/TBB twofer.
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2Rick5150: I didn't mean specifically that song. As I said, smb. in Shut Down board years ago mentioned Carl's weird wording of words & then smb. else said it's (typical) "Californian" accent. Then turned out it isn't & I'm not sure what the bottom line is. That is the question to those who know/live in CA - does Carl indeed speak as typical Californian & whether it's called differently if people in that area *do* have their own distinct accent. Or the way Californians speak belongs to the group of states that speak that way?
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In "Livin' with a heartache" Carl sings the word "miss" as "mish".
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