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September 29, 2016, 05:22:23 PM »
Due in less than 2 weeks. Mods, delete if elsewhere but perhaps a single thread like Mikes book.
A pretty interesting article with some detail of the writing process.
http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-genius-brian-wilson-dishes-on-memoir-minneapolis-pet-sounds-concert/395287921/
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For the book, Wilson worked with New York author Ben Greenman, who has collaborated on memoirs with Gene Simmons, Questlove, Simon Cowell, George Clinton and Mariel Hemingway.
The process, according to Wilson, involved countless telephone interviews over the course of eight months. Each interview lasted about 40 minutes. Then Greenman put together the book.
Wilson said he has no regrets about anything that’s in the book, which details his insecurities, feuds and dark days, including how his father abused him mentally and physically. However, one can sense that Wilson is reluctant to do a tell-all, refusing to address certain topics, such as his fractured and litigious relationship with his cousin Mike Love, who performs under the Beach Boys name.
Wilson said he will send Love a copy of “I Am Brian Wilson” and that he plans to read Love’s own “Good Vibrations: My Life as a Beach Boy,” which was published last month.
How would he characterize his relationship with Love?
“Nonexistent,” he said succinctly.
They haven’t talked for four years — since the Beach Boys’ 50th anniversary tour ended in acrimony and Wilson resumed performing under his own name, with fellow original Beach Boy Al Jardine, among others.
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September 29, 2016, 05:33:58 PM »
Oh, this thread at last! Thanks for starting it, and for the link to the article.
Judging by the excerpts I have read, the book reads like unfiltered Brian Wilson: you hear his typical "voice". I was hoping for that, and congrats to Ben Greenman for this approach and to Brian for allowing it.
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Thanks for making this thread! Can't wait! 2 weeks never felt slower
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I hope Brian mentions Adult/Child at some point, it'd be really interesting to hear his thoughts and recollections about it!
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Has anyone pre-ordered the book from Amazon? The release date is October 11 but I got notification that it wouldn't be delivered to me until October 13.
Waiting 2 extra days would be torture. Hope that is an error on Amazon's part.
(With Mike's book, I received it the day it was released.)
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Quote from: NOLA BB Fan on September 29, 2016, 06:48:47 PM
Has anyone pre-ordered the book from Amazon? The release date is October 11 but I got notification that it wouldn't be delivered to me until October 13.
Waiting 2 extra days would be torture. Hope that is an error on Amazon's part.
(With Mike's book, I received it the day it was released.)
I got the same notification. Ordered Mike's book at the same time, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for them both!
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I'll have the Kindle version on the day.
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Quote from: The Old Master Painter on September 29, 2016, 06:19:15 PM
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I have pre ordered it on Amazon but not gotten any particular notifications or updates about the date. My sense from reading Mike's book and hearing a bit about Brian's book is that both men have so much love for each other and so much passion and poignancy for all that they have shared together. The world is not black and white and love and respect and a profound connection can coexist with all the tensions and anxieties they have had. In fact it all makes the Beach Boys music much more meaningful and much more rich. This is the sacrifice that artists make. They're pain, when it's translated into music , reaches us on the deeper level then their personal happiness ever could. Of course I hope that these books,when exchanged, will bring Brian and Mike were closer together, and I think it's sad that the relationship is non-existent, and I'm sure that they are both hurt by this. For me the most important thing is that everyday of my life I listen to at least one song that the two of them wrote, which goes directly to my heart and soul, and I could never thank each and the both of them enough for that.
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Quote from: the professor on September 29, 2016, 07:49:30 PM
I have pre ordered it on Amazon but not gotten any particular notifications or updates about the date. My sense from reading Mike's book and hearing a bit about Brian's book is that both men have so much love for each other and so much passion and poignancy for all that they have shared together. The world is not black and white and love and respect and a profound connection can coexist with all the tensions and anxieties they have had. In fact it all makes the Beach Boys music much more meaningful and much more rich. This is the sacrifice that artists make. They're pain, when it's translated into music , reaches us on the deeper level then their personal happiness ever could. Of course I hope that these books,when exchanged, will bring Brian and Mike were closer together, and I think it's sad that the relationship is non-existent, and I'm sure that they are both hurt by this. For me the most important thing is that everyday of my life I listen to at least one song that the two of them wrote, which goes directly to my heart and soul, and I could never thank each and the both of them enough for that.
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Since I got Mike's book at our Indigo book store two weeks before the official release date, I will check Indigo tomorrow (Oct. 1) to see if Brian's book has arrived early as well. Will report back!
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I found this Google preview, but am forcing myself not to read it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ug_-DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=brian+wilson+bus&source=bl&ots=x-7i0v3GLD&sig=NxlQzNLVF_ZiXbR7YMP5GXHXMPQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlp6ulw6nPAhXK7YMKHXaXDCU4ChDoAQguMAk#v=onepage&q=brian%20wilson%20bus&f=false
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Newest issue of Time had a page discussing both Brian and Bruce Springsteen's new memoirs, as well as a brief piece on The Lovester's book.
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Yeah a big year for bio's. I see today that Robbie Robertson of The Band has one out in Nov to. My son has the Springsteen book on order and of course Brian and Mikes, not to mention Dean Torrence. Wasn't Daves book due for an updated release as well?
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Daves site is pushing the 10th anniversary edition, which will be next year. A bit cluttered this year so good call.
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Quote from: send me a picture and i'll tell you on September 30, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
I found this Google preview, but am forcing myself not to read it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ug_-DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=brian+wilson+bus&source=bl&ots=x-7i0v3GLD&sig=NxlQzNLVF_ZiXbR7YMP5GXHXMPQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlp6ulw6nPAhXK7YMKHXaXDCU4ChDoAQguMAk#v=onepage&q=brian%20wilson%20bus&f=false
That review sounds just like Brian.
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"Nonexistent". Brian describing his relationship with myKe luHv.
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Quote from: send me a picture and i'll tell you on September 30, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
I found this Google preview, but am forcing myself not to read it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ug_-DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=brian+wilson+bus&source=bl&ots=x-7i0v3GLD&sig=NxlQzNLVF_ZiXbR7YMP5GXHXMPQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlp6ulw6nPAhXK7YMKHXaXDCU4ChDoAQguMAk#v=onepage&q=brian%20wilson%20bus&f=false
Thanks so much for sharing this. I read every available page and I love it - really captures Brian's voice. I'm looking forward to getting however many copies I ordered at this point (who knows?)...
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I've read the available pages. The following comments apply only to the excerpts, ( maybe 1/5 of the book?) and not to the book as a whole.
The good : Brian's personality really comes through, and an attractive personality it is -- generous and open-hearted. Not a petty bone in his body. Likely to disappoint some is his praise of Mike Love.
The bad : it's all sweeping, big-picture stuff. Want to get a detailed, inside story of the reconciliation of Brian and Joe Thomas, which in turn led to TWGMTR? "Joe Thomas came back" is all we get.
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Quote from: NoThugsInOurHouse on September 30, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
Newest issue of Time had a page discussing both Brian and Bruce Springsteen's new memoirs, as well as a brief piece on The Lovester's book.
I just grabbed my husband's print copy. Loved all the reviews. Well done.
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Quote from: clack on October 01, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
I've read the available pages. The following comments apply only to the excerpts, ( maybe 1/5 of the book?) and not to the book as a whole.
The good : Brian's personality really comes through, and an attractive personality it is -- generous and open-hearted. Not a petty bone in his body. Likely to disappoint some is his praise of Mike Love.
The bad : it's all sweeping, big-picture stuff. Want to get a detailed, inside story of the reconciliation of Brian and Joe Thomas, which in turn led to TWGMTR? "Joe Thomas came back" is all we get.
Yes - very Brian. I always wonder about the assumption that we'll be unhappy if Brian praises Mike. Why shouldn't he in various circumstances? It's fine with me. Many of us who get annoyed with things Mike does praise him when it's appropriate.
I'm not certain what's in the pages not yet published, but I'd seriously doubt that Brian will be talking beyond "Joe Thomas came back." I doubt that he thinks that it matters in the end. He knows people show up in his life when they're supposed to be there. He misses them when they're gone, but he doesn't dwell on it. He's obviously fond of them in any case, whether it's Mike or anyone else. I think he's also pretty clear if they need to be there or not. His long-time friends and associates understand it. Those who don't understand it have other issues.
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There are a lot of moments where it's obvious Greenman is copying Wikipedia trivia into the book and attributing it to Wilson. For instance, the Beach Boys' version of "Talk to Me" is clearly based on the high-charting 1958 Little Willie John version, but "Brian" describes the song as an obscure Spector production. (I think I remember reading once that it was a favorite of Carl's, and that's why the song was recorded.)
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Quote from: terrei on October 02, 2016, 05:12:50 AM
There are a lot of moments where it's obvious Greenman is copying Wikipedia trivia into the book and attributing it to Wilson. For instance, the Beach Boys' version of "Talk to Me" is clearly based on the high-charting 1958 Little Willie John version, but "Brian" describes the song as an obscure Spector production. (I think I remember reading once that it was a favorite of Carl's, and that's why the song was recorded.)
IIRC I did read somewhere that it was Brian and Marylin's song.
Anyway:
Jean DuShon - Talk To Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sYDrh62rgA
While appearing at the Roundtable in New York, Jean was spotted by Ahmet Ertegun of Atlantic Records. He was so impressed with DuShon that he took her to his company and paired her with the young Phil Spector. Spector guided DuShon through several recordings including a rehash of Little Willie John's "Talk To Me."
Little Willie John - Talk To Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mQGKs7jGiI
What we can say for certain, though, is that the Beach Boys' version can't hold a candle to either recording
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Just got an email from Amazon that I will be receiving Brian's book on October 11 after all, not 2 days later as it was originally.
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Probably one of many stories on the book to come over the next few weeks.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/music/beach-boys-icon-brian-wilson-on-faith-forgiveness-and-his-new-memoir/article32296927/
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Just a few more days and it's here!!!
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