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« Reply #500 on: October 06, 2017, 09:08:43 AM »

No Hockey mullet? Wink
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« Reply #501 on: October 06, 2017, 09:12:20 AM »

Just saw someone on ESPN deflated the Sixers hype this week as all hype...here we go again. I mean I'm not going to be watching but it is good for the city and area overall to be excited about a sports franchise every decade or so.
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« Reply #502 on: October 06, 2017, 09:18:43 AM »

I think injuries are going to be the story of the 76ers season. If Embiid plays less than two-thirds of the season, if Simmons gets hurt again, if an aging Redick gets banged up, if some of the other backcourt role players (Bayless, Stauskas) miss substantial time and thin out the rotation, they could be terrible. But there are so many more options this season, and obviously so much better high-end talent, I think at least high 30s is a realistic win total. And a playoff run if everyone is healthy is entirely possible.
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« Reply #503 on: October 06, 2017, 09:21:51 AM »

Meanwhile the Bulls will win 15 games....
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« Reply #504 on: October 06, 2017, 09:29:35 AM »

If Chicago even tries to win games (at the front office level .. obviously the people on the floor should try), they're beyond idiots. They need to win 15 games and get that chance at a high pick. I actually think they were stupid to retain Mirotic, too, since he's a serviceable veteran. They should have let him go, or maybe done a sign-and-trade at most, so they could get more playing time for Bobby Portis or Cristiano Felicio or whoever. They should let LaVine rehab until after All Star break. Role with Kris Dunn turnovers and air-balled floaters. Laugh as Denzel Valentine tries and fails on defense.

This team most of all needs new management. I wonder whether "consultant" Doug Collins wasn't actually brought in to advise ownership on the futures of Paxson and Forman. And by advise on, I mean walk into their offices and fire them.
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« Reply #505 on: October 06, 2017, 09:45:13 AM »

So, who wins more games: Knicks or Bulls? What other teams are their main competition for the #1 draft pick? I've been focusing so much on the improved teams that I'm not so sure who the worst teams are. Obviously, health will probably be the main factor. No doubt KP misses some games here and there, as well.

I'm actually looking forward to watching the Knicks, though. If they play hard on both ends and play unselfishly, I'll watch. Not having that superstar-type guy is refreshing to me. Players often end up deferring to such an extent it stifles the game. Ultimately, it comes down to culture, but still...
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« Reply #506 on: October 06, 2017, 09:52:22 AM »

Oh, the Knicks will win more games almost for sure. The Bulls, man ... they're going to be terrible. Just terrible. Off the top of my head, these are the likely options.

PG: Jerian Grant, Kris Dunn
SG: Denzel Valentine (Zach LaVine eventually)
SF: Paul Zipser?
PF: Niko Mirotic, Bobby Portis, Lauri Markkanen
C: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felicio

I mean, wow. that's not a good team. I'm probably forgetting somebody, but I doubt he's any good. My guess is that Chicago wins 15-22 games.

The second-worst team? Probably Atlanta, who has moved almost everyone who's any good. Their best player, arguably by far, is now Dennis Schroder. Yikes.

Then it's into the Brooklyn, New York, Phoenix, Dallas, Orlando, Sacramento, LAL territory, where I could imagine anywhere from 23 to 33 wins depending on how the chips fall, who gets hurt, etc.

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« Reply #507 on: October 06, 2017, 10:02:14 AM »

Yeah, tough times ahead in Chicago due to Paxton and Forman running talented coaches/players out of town...
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« Reply #508 on: October 06, 2017, 10:15:28 AM »

They just haven't had a coherent strategy.

First, they went all-in with Thibs and that style. They won big. They alientated Thibs and made clear they had no intention of retaining him, to the point that it was obvious Hoiberg was the coach-in-waiting even while Thibs was still there.

They hire Hoiberg, but leave him with more or less Thibs' roster. He struggles.

Rather than really rebuild to suit Hoiberg's style, they build last year's ridiculous Frankenstein's Roster with Wade, Rondo, Butler, and Lopez, plus Grant, Portis, Valentine, etc.

At least now they're really rebuilding. But they're about two years too late.
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« Reply #509 on: October 06, 2017, 10:19:06 AM »

And when I say rebuild, I'm not even saying they necessarily should have blown it all up. But they took a tepid approach that got nothing done. They could have moved some of the Thibs players for Hoiberg-style players and tried to retool on the fly. But no. They half-rebuilt, half-didn't.
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« Reply #510 on: October 07, 2017, 07:44:09 AM »

Oh, the Knicks will win more games almost for sure. The Bulls, man ... they're going to be terrible. Just terrible. Off the top of my head, these are the likely options.

PG: Jerian Grant, Kris Dunn
SG: Denzel Valentine (Zach LaVine eventually)
SF: Paul Zipser?
PF: Niko Mirotic, Bobby Portis, Lauri Markkanen
C: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felicio

I mean, wow. that's not a good team. I'm probably forgetting somebody, but I doubt he's any good. My guess is that Chicago wins 15-22 games.



Justin Holiday is another wing whom I'd forgotten. And I have to admit he's all right. Not good as a key player, but a decent low-rotation guy. Too bad he'll probably start...
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« Reply #511 on: October 12, 2017, 11:52:05 AM »

Yeah but thats why I am a Wizards fan this year!
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« Reply #512 on: February 08, 2018, 02:02:44 PM »

Wow, so the Cavs traded Thomas, Rose, Wade, Crowder, Frye, Shumpert, and their 1st round pick today.  LOL

Kinda funny how they traded expiring contracts to the Lakers so the Lakers can go after LeBron in the offseason.

I really buy into LeBron wanting to go west to "protect" his win/loss finals record. I wouldn't mind if he joined the Spurs, but I doubt that's the most likely destination. Makes a lot of sense, though.  

I like the Knicks trading McDermott for Mudiay (and swapping 2nd round picks). Nice move. Doesn't quite make up for not playing Hernangomez all year and then trading him for 2nd rounders. Especially in the wake of KP's injury...

Looking forward to The Decision part 2, remember this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keIdgoJYiy8

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« Reply #513 on: February 08, 2018, 04:53:21 PM »

For what was being discussed as likely a quiet deadline day, it turned out pretty interesting.

Cleveland was amazing today. I don't know if Koby Altman deserves the credit, or if Lebron/Maverick Carter do, but whoever orchestrated the day did well. Cleveland needed to do something ... something big. That team was GARBAGE lately. All of a sudden, they are younger and more athletic at the guard and wing spots, but simultaneously have better shooting and less ball-dominant players in those spots. In other words, they fit Lebron better. And what do they give up? Nothing. Non-factors on the court (or detractors on the court) and some picks of minimal value.

But then they also are far better positioned going into next year if Lebron leaves, as the likes of Hood, Clarkson, and Nance are solid contributors to put around Love and guys like Osman and Thompson. (Hill, we'll see. Obviously he didn't react well to being in a rebuild in SAC.) And why mention a Lebronless Cleveland next year? Well, those two max slots that opened up out in LA--thanks to Cleveland--sure raise eyebrows.

Seriously, to do right by the short-term AND long-term interests of Cleveland, even while helping LAL? Quite a bit of maneuvering.

I'm more suspicious of the Mudiay trade, though they weren't playing McDermott anyway. But if you've got Frankie Smokes as your future PG, do you want another non-shooting big guard to pair him with? And moving Hernangomez was idiotic. Especially once Zinger went down and you could play him more.

On this end, I'm assuming we'll sign Rose and Noah once they're bought out. Hell, Deng, too. Why not just ruin my life.
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« Reply #514 on: February 08, 2018, 05:43:15 PM »

Bulls got gar-pax another year..... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #515 on: Yesterday at 11:02:28 AM »

(Hoping that came across as a joke, not a nasty swipe. Glad to shift the talk elsewhere.)

WHAT I DID TODAY:

Decided to work from home, meaning I'm wasting time online with y'all (he said in a faux southern accent for no reason). Also was mean to the dogs, in their opinion, by not sharing the bagel I ate for breakfast. And about to go workout, which I hate doing more than anything other than dying from eventual complications that could have been avoided by exercise! (Plus it'll help me justify the happy hour I'll head out to in a few hours.)


Thoughts on the "new" cleveland Cavs? Wink

Great trades.
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« Reply #516 on: Today at 12:07:56 PM »

Its like a new team, I hope Lebron stays in Cleveland now.
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