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« on: August 07, 2016, 12:52:51 PM »

Who are the biggest creeps in the long and twisted history of the Beach Boys? Murry and Mike are obvious choices...but for my money...I'm going with Stan and Rocky for being two creepy porn star lookin' jock creeps who beat up Dennis. Rocky also (supposedly) knocked out Carl and we all know what he was doing with Marilyn (not that Brian was Mr. Innocent).

How were these two creeps allowed so much power? I know Stan is Mike's brother...and I know they were essentially hired to replace Landy...but come on...did anyone really think that was a good idea??
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2016, 01:09:39 PM »

Manson was kind of bad.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2016, 01:18:44 PM »

Is the story about Denny kicking the you-know-what out of Manson true? From what I read, Manson showed Dennis a bullet and made some comment about Dennis' kids and Dennis proceeded to put a pretty good beating on him. Manson ended up sobbing on the floor.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2016, 01:30:51 PM »

Is the story about Denny kicking the you-know-what out of Manson true? From what I read, Manson showed Dennis a bullet and made some comment about Dennis' kids and Dennis proceeded to put a pretty good beating on him. Manson ended up sobbing on the floor.
I don't know but I hope so.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2016, 02:13:58 PM »

Landy, Morgan, Landy Jr, Leslie.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2016, 05:52:12 PM »

Of course Murry is in the hall of fame but for myself it would have to be rocky. He didn't do near the damage of someone like Landy but it was just so chickenshit... and the fact that he got away with it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2016, 06:30:47 PM »

Who are the biggest creeps in the long and twisted history of the Beach Boys? Murry and Mike are obvious choices...but for my money...I'm going with Stan and Rocky for being two creepy porn star lookin' jock creeps who beat up Dennis. Rocky also (supposedly) knocked out Carl and we all know what he was doing with Marilyn (not that Brian was Mr. Innocent).

How were these two creeps allowed so much power? I know Stan is Mike's brother...and I know they were essentially hired to replace Landy...but come on...did anyone really think that was a good idea??

I'd easily go with Murry, Rocky & Stan and throw myKe in the pile as well.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2016, 07:04:05 PM »

Rocky and Stan both rocked major porn mustaches, too!

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2016, 07:07:38 PM »

Wasn't Rocky going to publish a book several years ago? That would have been an interesting read.

Also, has the mystery of who karate chopped Dennis in the throat ever been solved? Did it actually happen and it so...did Steve Love deliver the blow? I'd add him to the list for that.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2016, 08:37:17 PM »

Wasn't Rocky going to publish a bok several years ago? That would have been an interesting read.

Rocky was a fairly consistent poster on this forum for a short time earlier this year actually, constantly talking about his supposed upcoming book.  His posts varied from childish to near-incomprehensible and he was basically ridiculed off the board.  You can view his posting history here if you're interested but you might want to take an Advil afterwards.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2016, 08:58:35 PM »

I don't know that it's ever been determined that Dennis was  hit in the throat. However if he had been I don't think that Steve Love had anything to do with it.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2016, 09:16:32 PM »

Wasn't Rocky going to publish a bok several years ago? That would have been an interesting read.

Rocky was a fairly consistent poster on this forum for a short time earlier this year actually, constantly talking about his supposed upcoming book.  His posts varied from childish to near-incomprehensible and he was basically ridiculed off the board.  You can view his posting history here if you're interested but you might want to take an Advil afterwards.

An Advil? More like a bottle of cheap vodka from the corner liquor store. Wow. I think that is all I can say. Wow.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2016, 09:24:25 PM »

I only skimmed some of it...but he seems to trash Mike quite a bit while holding up Steve Love as some sort of savior (or Stephen as he calls him). Some of his rants about Mike were priceless. Please, someone, publish Rocky's book!
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2016, 05:14:45 AM »

How about Adele for keeping The Beach Boys final album from reaching #1 in 2012?

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2016, 10:58:04 AM »

Always Landy for me.
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2016, 11:08:48 AM »

Always Landy for me.

Landy does seem like the obvious choice.  He definitely took advantage of his access to Brian Wilson in the 1980s. 

But, I doubt that Brian Wilson would've lived to see 50 if not for Landy. 

It's like having a life saving operation that leads to a crippling addiction to pain killers. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2016, 11:12:20 AM »

Always Landy for me.

Landy does seem like the obvious choice.  He definitely took advantage of his access to Brian Wilson in the 1980s. 

But, I doubt that Brian Wilson would've lived to see 50 if not for Landy. 

It's like having a life saving operation that leads to a crippling addiction to pain killers. 

Excellent analogy, and agreed.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2016, 06:05:32 AM »

Who are the biggest creeps in the long and twisted history of the Beach Boys? Murry and Mike are obvious choices...but for my money...I'm going with Stan and Rocky for being two creepy porn star lookin' jock creeps who beat up Dennis. Rocky also (supposedly) knocked out Carl and we all know what he was doing with Marilyn (not that Brian was Mr. Innocent).

How were these two creeps allowed so much power? I know Stan is Mike's brother...and I know they were essentially hired to replace Landy...but come on...did anyone really think that was a good idea??

It's easy to vilify Rocky and Stan, but those were desperate times and they were given too much authority.  The person ultimately responsible for their behavior was their employer, who I believe was Marilyn.  Or was it Steve?  Whoever it was they did a poor job of managing them. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2016, 08:46:14 AM »

How about the guy who turned Brian on to LSD ?
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2016, 10:21:08 AM »

1. Manson (for obvious reasons)
2.Murry (just for taking out his glass eye and shoving it in Brian face, yuck!)
3.Landy (for obvious reasons)
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2016, 01:34:42 PM »

I think Manson would be first. Landy and Rocky are obvious choices for a distant 2nd. Murray on the next level after them. As for Mike, who could be a bit of a prick at times, but has he really done anything so bad as to hurt/abuse others? Is the rumor that he abused a daughter or girl friend true? I can't recall the story exactly, but has it been confirmed?
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2016, 01:51:44 PM »

How about the guy who turned Brian on to LSD ?

Not a bad choice----particularly since he thought it was such a huge joke in Beautiful Dreamer...
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2016, 02:04:31 PM »

How about the guy who turned Brian on to LSD ?

Not a bad choice----particularly since he thought it was such a huge joke in Beautiful Dreamer...

Lorren Daro, another guy who came to this forum to talk about complete bullshit.
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2016, 11:04:18 PM »

It was sure funny when some posters behaved like a bunch of lickspittles before Daro & Pamplin. Is it just me who thinks it's super weird to hear some random worker bodyguard singing? Isn't he required to...ummmm...welllllllllll...guard his employer?
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2016, 06:19:40 AM »

How about the guy who turned Brian on to LSD ?
The word "despised" is a problem for me from the OP.  "Hating" someone is a waste of emotion, and I would soften that characterization a bit by saying "problematic" - and would suggest a triumvirate.

Daro (I agree 100% and Brian consistently seems to indicate that this is a "line of demarcation" for him, despite various apologists for LSD.)

Manson

Landy - so that is chronologically, in order of damage to the band.  Only a bystander, so I could be wrong.  

But a lot of damage appears to have flowed from this 1st person.  I was waiting until someone nailed that and I would agree with you.  
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