Brian Wilson: ‘The voices started after LSD’

[Debbie KL]

The comment was not directed at Brian Wilson but rather at some folks who believe what they want to believe, while the actual truth be damned.

That's how I took it as well. No matter how many times I read it, I do not see how it could have been directed towards Brian.

This is exhausting.  Thanks to more of the usual convoluted logic from the usual suspects.  It is headache inducing.  Do I have evidence of injury?

[Cam Mott]

The comment was not directed at Brian Wilson but rather at some folks who believe what they want to believe, while the actual truth be damned.

That's how I took it as well. No matter how many times I read it, I do not see how it could have been directed towards Brian.

It was a general statement and I pointed out how I didn't think it applied to Brian specifically since we were specifically discussing Brian.

[Cam Mott]

Maybe it will turn out Brian actually knows himself and something like the seemingly not yet well understood Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder turns out to be the diagnosis and his insistence his auditory hallucinations are related to the few (or many, whichever) times he took LSD are the "reality testing" required for the causation of the diagnosis.

[Emily]

I think 'insisting' is a mischaracterization.

[Cam Mott]

How about persistence?

"Maybe it will turn out Brian actually knows himself and something like the seemingly not yet well understood Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder turns out to be the diagnosis and his persistence his auditory hallucinations are related to the few (or many, whichever) times he took LSD and are the "reality testing" required for the causation of the diagnosis."

[Paul J B]

I paged through Leaf's Beach Boys book this morning and was surprised to see the paragraph about Landy diagnosing Brian as a paranoid schizophrenic based on Marilyn's description of Brian's behavior. The thing that jumped out was that this was Landy 1 during 15 big ones era. To the point of this post...I guess I assumed Landy considering Brian a paranoid schizophrenic happened during the Landy 2 eightees. Can anyone shed light as to wether or not Landy stood by his "diagnosis" of Brian during their entire relationship together? Hack that Landy was, it still seems weird to me that he would stand by that diagnosis for so long had he not believed it. Didn't anyone else question it?  Carl, Dennis...anyone or everyone else believe Landy's diagnosis accurate?

[halblaineisgood]

Hack that Landy was, it still seems weird to me that he would stand by that diagnosis for so long had he not believed it.

had he not believed that it would make him very wealthy

[thorgil]

When all is said and done, I get only a two-word message from all this: "Poor Brian."

[Paul J B]

Hack that Landy was, it still seems weird to me that he would stand by that diagnosis for so long had he not believed it.

had he not believed that it would make him very wealthy

I'll grant you that...yes. Landy was a slime and the big picture for him was getting rich at Brian's expense. That said, didn't anyone question Brian being diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic? That is a serious and major mental disorder. It's not like he was diagnosed with having pneumonia when he really only had a bad cold. I'm pondering this because it seems to me anyone close to Brian seemed to have accepted Landy's diagnosis even if he was off. If that is the case, then it would clear up a lot of the debate about Brian's state all the way back into the '60's. The debates about Brian just being a drug casualty and such.

[halblaineisgood]

n/m