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My favorite latter-day album from the Beach Boys, I've been able to find the title track, Surfin, and Under the Boardwalk performed live, and wonder if anyone has ever come across any of the other tracks live. I'd particularly be interested in Lahaina Aloha and Strange Things Happen.
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hot fun in the summertime and forever (with John Stamos) were also performed.
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Bring on the 30th anniversary tour in 2022!
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The Beach Boys - Surfin' (Live 1992) Summer In Paradise STYLE
https://youtu.be/H-jiQdiPS5o
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The Beach Boys - Surfin' (Live 1992) Summer In Paradise STYLE
https://youtu.be/H-jiQdiPS5o
Wish I knew what concert this was
Hi, Tim.
I took a look at Eric A's set lists and AGD's Bellagio site and compared them. It's hard to tell when the new-sound "Surfin'" was first played but it had been dropped by June 16, 1993. According to Andrew's "Shows & Sessions" page for 1993 the following concerts were recorded:
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12 - Middlefart Festival, Aarhus, Denmark*
13 - Alsterdorfer Sporthalle, Hamburg, Germany*
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It sounds out of doors, so maybe one of the first two?
No idea whether any of this helps.
With thanks to those two gentlemen. :=)
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The Beach Boys - Surfin' (Live 1992) Summer In Paradise STYLE
https://youtu.be/H-jiQdiPS5o
Wish I knew what concert this was
That is fascinating. Was Carl performing those guitar solo parts live?
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The Beach Boys - Surfin' (Live 1992) Summer In Paradise STYLE
https://youtu.be/H-jiQdiPS5o
Wish I knew what concert this was
Great stuff! I've always liked the updated version. Great vocals!
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Seems the guys really worked hard to promote this album. Wish they had put this much effort into promoting the 1985 album.
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Seems the guys really worked hard to promote this album. Wish they had put this much effort into promoting the 1985 album.
While not lasting long in the setlist, the following songs from the '85 album were performed live in 1985:
Getcha Back
It's Gettin' Late
Crack at Your Love
California Calling
She Believes in Love Again
(Brian also performed "It's Just a Matter of Time" a few times in 1983, though that really wouldn't count as "promoting" the album I suppose).
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
It's a nice song and Carl's vocals are great, indeed. Parts of it's harmonies and melody always remind me of "Roller skating child".
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
It's a nice song and Carl's vocals are great, indeed. Parts of it's harmonies and melody always remind me of "Roller skating child".
Interesting... I'd never thought of that. Not quite sure I can hear what you're referring to, what parts of those songs remind you of one another?
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
It's a nice song and Carl's vocals are great, indeed. Parts of it's harmonies and melody always remind me of "Roller skating child".
Interesting... I'd never thought of that. Not quite sure I can hear what you're referring to, what parts of those songs remind you of one another?
"And when the wind comes up,
and when the sun goes down"
"And we'll make sweet lovin' when the sun goes down,
we'll even do more when her Mama's not around"
Not talking about the lyrics but the melody and harmonies.
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
It's a nice song and Carl's vocals are great, indeed. Parts of it's harmonies and melody always remind me of "Roller skating child".
Interesting... I'd never thought of that. Not quite sure I can hear what you're referring to, what parts of those songs remind you of one another?
"And when the wind comes up,
and when the sun goes down"
"And we'll make sweet lovin' when the sun goes down,
we'll even do more when her Mama's not around"
Not talking about the lyrics but the melody and harmonies.
Thanks, I'll have to play them back to back. I think I can hear (in my head) the similarity that you're getting at.
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Quote from: The_Beach on June 02, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
The Beach Boys - Surfin' (Live 1992) Summer In Paradise STYLE
https://youtu.be/H-jiQdiPS5o
Wish I knew what concert this was
Hi, Tim.
I took a look at Eric A's set lists and AGD's Bellagio site and compared them. It's hard to tell when the new-sound "Surfin'" was first played but it had been dropped by June 16, 1993. According to Andrew's "Shows & Sessions" page for 1993 the following concerts were recorded:
June
06 - Kaivopuisto, Helsinki, Finland*
12 - Middlefart Festival, Aarhus, Denmark*
13 - Alsterdorfer Sporthalle, Hamburg, Germany*
15 - Frankenhalle, Nurenberg*
It sounds out of doors, so maybe one of the first two?
No idea whether any of this helps.
With thanks to those two gentlemen. :=)
I heard both Hot Fun and Surfin' played at the Concord Pavilion on May 31, 1992 before the Album was released. Surfin' led off the encore that day.
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
This would be an interesting side topic, of how long a duration new songs from each album stayed in setlists over the years.
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
It seems the SIP songs stayed in the setlists much longer than the songs from SC, BB85, KTSA, or LA. Getcha Back being the exception - they performed it up through 1987; it was gone in 1988. California Dreamin' was still in the setlist in '87; also dropped in 88. But they did replace those with some good ones - This Whole World comes to mind.
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
It seems the SIP songs stayed in the setlists much longer than the songs from SC, BB85, KTSA, or LA. Getcha Back being the exception - they performed it up through 1987; it was gone in 1988. California Dreamin' was still in the setlist in '87; also dropped in 88. But they did replace those with some good ones - This Whole World comes to mind.
I'm guessing this is because Mike largely controlled the setlists by the early 90s, and he didn't want to accept that the album SIP, his baby more than any other BB album, was a failure. It was probably an ego thing. Let's not forget, nearly half the album was re-recorded probably because they (maybe mostly Mike?) didn't want it to accept it was a flop. I've always been curious as to the details of what/who instigated the new versions. I find it hard to believe that it was anyone other then Mike and/or Terry who was behind that.
That said, I'm always happy when the band kept playing more of their current songs for as long as possible, so I don't necessarily begrudge Mike or the band for it. I still like about half of the album, and as unpopular an opinion as it may be, I think it is underrated compared to how maligned it gets.
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Am I correct in understanding that SIP itself was the only original -- i.e, not a cover or a remake of their own song -- from the album ever to be played live?
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
It seems the SIP songs stayed in the setlists much longer than the songs from SC, BB85, KTSA, or LA. Getcha Back being the exception - they performed it up through 1987; it was gone in 1988. California Dreamin' was still in the setlist in '87; also dropped in 88. But they did replace those with some good ones - This Whole World comes to mind.
I'm guessing this is because Mike largely controlled the setlists by the early 90s, and he didn't want to accept that the album SIP, his baby more than any other BB album, was a failure. It was probably an ego thing. Let's not forget, nearly half the album was re-recorded probably because they (maybe mostly Mike?) didn't want it to accept it was a flop. I've always been curious as to the details of what/who instigated the new versions. I find it hard to believe that it was anyone other then Mike and/or Terry who was behind that.
That said, I'm always happy when the band kept playing more of their current songs for as long as possible, so I don't necessarily begrudge Mike or the band for it. I still like about half of the album, and as unpopular an opinion as it may be, I think it is underrated compared to how maligned it gets.
I understand that, just wish they had believed in early albums as much as Mike seemed to believe in this one. Would like to find high quality live recordings of Where I Belong, It's Gettin' Late, Somewhere Near Japan, Livin' With a Heartache, Full Sail, Good Timin', It's Just a Matter of Time, Island Girl...but I suspect they don't exist, because the songs were rarely or never played live.
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The live version of Summer in Paradise is on Made in California. They should have left that track off the album and included Lahaina Aloha.
Lahaina Aloha not only has very solid Carl vocals, but Mike's vocals are very smooth and cool too. If this song had been on Still Cruisin' or released as a standalone single, and not associated with the SIP album, I think it'd be far more well-regarded.
It's a nice song and Carl's vocals are great, indeed. Parts of it's harmonies and melody always remind me of "Roller skating child".
Interesting... I'd never thought of that. Not quite sure I can hear what you're referring to, what parts of those songs remind you of one another?
"And when the wind comes up,
and when the sun goes down"
"And we'll make sweet lovin' when the sun goes down,
we'll even do more when her Mama's not around"
Not talking about the lyrics but the melody and harmonies.
Thanks, I'll have to play them back to back. I think I can hear (in my head) the similarity that you're getting at.
You're welcome. If you'd like to, please post your thoughts. Since the first time I heard "Roller skating child" (I got to know that song after already knowing "Lahaina aloha") it was totally obvious to me. But maybe I'm in the minority.
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I've always enjoyed Hot Fun In The Summertime live. The title track isn't bad either in a live setting.
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My recollection is that "Surfin'" (the SIP album arrangement anyway) dropped off the setlist first, then "Hot Fun in the Summertime" (in 1993 I believe), with "Boardwalk" and "SIP" staying longer, with "Boardwalk" eventually dropping as well (I believe in 1995). SIP is the only track that survived more than a few years/touring seasons.
It seems the SIP songs stayed in the setlists much longer than the songs from SC, BB85, KTSA, or LA. Getcha Back being the exception - they performed it up through 1987; it was gone in 1988. California Dreamin' was still in the setlist in '87; also dropped in 88. But they did replace those with some good ones - This Whole World comes to mind.
I'm guessing this is because Mike largely controlled the setlists by the early 90s, and he didn't want to accept that the album SIP, his baby more than any other BB album, was a failure. It was probably an ego thing. Let's not forget, nearly half the album was re-recorded probably because they (maybe mostly Mike?) didn't want it to accept it was a flop. I've always been curious as to the details of what/who instigated the new versions. I find it hard to believe that it was anyone other then Mike and/or Terry who was behind that.
That said, I'm always happy when the band kept playing more of their current songs for as long as possible, so I don't necessarily begrudge Mike or the band for it. I still like about half of the album, and as unpopular an opinion as it may be, I think it is underrated compared to how maligned it gets.
I understand that, just wish they had believed in early albums as much as Mike seemed to believe in this one. Would like to find high quality live recordings of Where I Belong, It's Gettin' Late, Somewhere Near Japan, Livin' With a Heartache, Full Sail, Good Timin', It's Just a Matter of Time, Island Girl...but I suspect they don't exist, because the songs were rarely or never played live.
There are some really nice quality recordings out there of some of those songs. but yeah a few of them i dont think were ever or at least not known to have ever been covered live by the band.
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