The Palindrome Topic

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Palindromes never let you have it all your own way. You do what you can and after that it's a question of having to compromise. This one, prompted by the ongoing discussion of who exactly sings lead (or rather leads) on "Mess Of Help", like its two immediate predecessors was done without consulting a single book or online source:   

Nosy Carl, Olga, Brian... a stand-alone? Sure, Vosse made ends look cuckoo. LSD need a mess over us, Eno lad. Nat's an airbag (lol). Racy, son

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Trying desperately to come to terms with the Blue Cheese Incident, it occurred to me that the best way to exorcize it is to construct (surprise, surprise) a Blue Cheese palindrome!
What I find fascinating about the result is that the two couplets of the little song at the centre (call it an In Memoriam Lenny Bruce for imbeciles) are identical except for two letters in <bleu> and <blue>. H'mm. Odd things, palindromes...


Des/Ned: "No cheese, Ma? Is red leap (e.g. Amor) fondue floop-all-up?"

"I recur bleu
L. Bruce, R.I.P.
I recur blue
L. Bruce, R.I.P."

Ullapool feud. No fromage, Pa. Elder Siamese, eh? Condensed!

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Palindromes never let you have it all your own way. You do what you can and after that it's a question of having to compromise. This one, prompted by the ongoing discussion of who exactly sings lead (or rather leads) on "Mess Of Help", like its two immediate predecessors was done without consulting a single book or online source:   

Nosy Carl, Olga, Brian... a stand-alone? Sure, Vosse made ends look cuckoo. LSD need a mess over us, Eno lad. Nat's an airbag (lol). Racy, son

The sad news about Ricci Martin's demise, made me wanna sidetrack John's palindrome and turn the rest into a memorial tanka-palindrome for Ricci and his mentor: 'AGA CARL'!
Also featured: Brian, Michael Vosse, Stephen W Desper (~sd), Alan J. and the endless number: pi(-in-the-sky). Thanx for the inspiration, jk!

>'Y, Carl = Aga!'  Brian:
"A sure Vosse made ends look pi!

RICCI R.I P.

Kool ~sd ! 'Need A Mess' over >
us - an airbag, Al ! RACY"<

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The sad news about Ricci Martin's demise, made me wanna sidetrack John's palindrome and turn the rest into a memorial tanka-palindrome for Ricci and his mentor: 'AGA CARL'!
Also featured: Brian, Michael Vosse, Stephen W Desper (~sd), Alan J. and the endless number: pi(-in-the-sky). Thanx for the inspiration, jk!

You're welcome, R. :=)

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Trying desperately to come to terms with the Blue Cheese Incident, it occurred to me that the best way to exorcize it is to construct (surprise, surprise) a Blue Cheese palindrome!
What I find fascinating about the result is that the two couplets of the little song at the centre (call it an In Memoriam Lenny Bruce for imbeciles) are identical except for two letters in <bleu> and <blue>. H'mm. Odd things, palindromes...


Des/Ned: "No cheese, Ma? Is red leap (e.g. Amor) fondue floop-all-up?"

"I recur bleu
L. Bruce, R.I.P.
I recur blue
L. Bruce, R.I.P."

Ullapool feud. No fromage, Pa. Elder Siamese, eh? Condensed!

I found another cheese-palindrome ALL in french (don't talk it myself):

>Tu l'as trop écrasé, César, ce Port Salut!<
[Which should translate into: You mashed it too much, Cesar, this Port Salut (a french cheese)]

To understand what's so great about jk's palindrome above, I've given it a closer look. [But first a sidebar: What does the words 'leap' and 'Amor' remind us, if we're old enough? later]]
I don't recall seeing a palindrome (which is NOT a word-units one) where whole sentences are mirrored in the text: Like "No cheese, Ma?" later comes out as "No fromage, Pa!"
And the line(s): "I recur blue/bleu. L. Bruce R.I P." twice, are almost identical. Only the words blue/bleu differ. The line itself is palindromic except for that word and only the repetition makes the whole bit palindromic! In my 'condimental version", I've swopped bleu & blue (which ARE palindromic'ly interchanegable) so that the english words blue & cheese are later mirrored by their french counterparts: fromage & bleu (I imagine the two sons Des & Ned having a scottish Mom (living in Ullapool) and a french speaking Dad). "Odd" indeed!
[And back to the sidebar: The Cupid/Amor-popsong: Little Arrows was a hit for LEAPy Lee!]

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Trying desperately to come to terms with the Blue Cheese Incident, it occurred to me that the best way to exorcize it is to construct (surprise, surprise) a Blue Cheese palindrome!
What I find fascinating about the result is that the two couplets of the little song at the centre (call it an In Memoriam Lenny Bruce for imbeciles) are identical except for two letters in <bleu> and <blue>. H'mm. Odd things, palindromes...


Des/Ned: "No cheese, Ma? Is red leap (e.g. Amor) fondue floop-all-up?"

"I recur bleu
L. Bruce, R.I.P.
I recur blue
L. Bruce, R.I.P."

Ullapool feud. No fromage, Pa. Elder Siamese, eh? Condensed!

I found another cheese-palindrome ALL in french (don't talk it myself):

>Tu l'as trop écrasé, César, ce Port Salut!<
[Which should translate into: You mashed it too much, Cesar, this Port Salut (a french cheese)]

To understand what's so great about jk's palindrome above, I've given it a closer look. [But first a sidebar: What does the words 'leap' and 'Amor' remind us, if we're old enough? later]]
I don't recall seeing a palindrome (which is NOT a word-units one) where whole sentences are mirrored in the text: Like "No cheese, Ma?" later comes out as "No fromage, Pa!"
And the line(s): "I recur blue/bleu. L. Bruce R.I P." twice, are almost identical. Only the words blue/bleu differ. The line itself is palindromic except for that word and only the repetition makes the whole bit palindromic! In my 'condimental version", I've swopped bleu & blue (which ARE palindromic'ly interchangeable) so that the english words blue & cheese are later mirrored by their french counterparts: fromage & bleu (I imagine the two sons Des & Ned having a scottish Mom (living in Ullapool) and a french speaking Dad). "Odd" indeed!
[And back to the sidebar: The Cupid/Amor-popsong: Little Arrows was a hit for LEAPy Lee!]

Love the Leapy Lee reference!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HepkOOM3aok

I'm truly honoured by your analysis, R. And the French palindrome is a hoot!

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Here we go again. This was prompted by The Lazenby's reconstruction of Pet Sounds from Brian's original track list (listening to it now):

Mary, no! Be nice! Berry tastes one good Etna vibe. Waxin' my gal? Not me! Nik's hang-on sat, ego sloop. Now, old man, ape raw rep. Put head----nor I made times, Anna. Semi-Ted am I, Ronda, eh? Tupperware Panam'd low on pools. O get a snog. Nah! Skin 'em, tonal gym. Nix a web, Ivan. Ted: "O, O, Geno, set satyr rebec in ebony ram"

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This started as a tribute (of sorts) to the Wrecking Crew. Well, six of them made it, so to speak...

"Denial, blah..." (Mike E.). Plas: "No eye, no hole." Putnam tips too. Mere grocer Glen on Ray's Sid Sharp, Oprah's diss yarn on El Greco. R. Gere moots Pitman: "Tupelo honey, eon's alp... Eek! I'm Hal Blained!!"

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>'Aye, Carl!  LITTLE HONDA! ...

O.k.a. a.K.o  *AD* !?'

"NO ! Hel'!! ---- T'T, I'll race ya!"<

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This stuff will be my downfall. Today's challenge was to incorporate the name of this forum----no easy task. Pity it degenerated into a shouting match:

Mike: "Dragnet! Safari! Today! Rael! Smiley Smile! Bambu!" "Rub, Mabel!" "I'm Sy, Eli!" Ms Leary: "A dot, Ira, fast!" "En garde, Kim!"

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This stuff will be my downfall. Today's challenge was to incorporate the name of this forum----no easy task. Pity it degenerated into a shouting match:

Mike: "Dragnet! Safari! Today! Rael! Smiley Smile! Bambu!" "Rub, Mabel!" "I'm Sy, Eli!" Ms Leary: "A dot, Ira, fast!" "En garde, Kim!"

"Downfall"? I should hope NOT - then it'll be mine too! Anyway here goes the versified version. Featuring as I see it: 'M(r)s. Leary'/SMILEY SMILE/ "Pete's RAEL"/BAMBU/BB TODAY!/lyricist IRA Gershwin/Mike's wife: KIM & musicians MABEL McVey/ELi/Sy Smith:

>MIKE: "Dragnet! Safari!
TODAY! "RAEL"! SMILEY SMILE!
BAMBU!"  "Rub, MABEL!"

"I'm SY, ELI!"
Ms. LEARY: "A dot, IRA,
FAST!"   "En garde, KIM!"<

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'M(r)s. Leary'/SMILEY SMILE/ "Pete's RAEL"/BAMBU/BB TODAY!/lyricist IRA Gershwin/Mike's wife: KIM & musicians MABEL McVey/ELi/Sy Smith

Interestingly, if asked who Sy was, I would have said the artist Sy Twombly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cy_Twombly

It's the only Sy I know! And Eli (Wallach?) seems to be getting everywhere these days.

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This next sprawling but technically perfect palindrome includes all five spellings of Rieley in just one Smiley topic and dispels once and for all the myth that either of Carl's two sons speaks at the start of "The Trader":

Daryl, lie right! Ron, I hung a red artefactoid. I see Pleyel (Eire). Lo, Jack Riley elpees dissed O'Reiley. Not S, W or N, it's U. (Jonah's eye, Rielly.) Diss idyll (Eire), yes? Ha, no! Justin rows Tony, Eli erodes Sid. See Pleyel irk/cajole Rieley elpees, idiot café trader. A gnu: "Hi!" North, G.I. Reilly----rad!  

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This next sprawling but technically perfect palindrome includes all five spellings of Rieley in just one Smiley topic and dispels once and for all the myth that either of Carl's two sons speaks at the start of "The Trader":

Daryl, lie right! Ron, I hung a red artefactoid. I see Pleyel (Eire). Lo, Jack Riley elpees dissed O'Reiley. Not S, W or N, it's U. (Jonah's eye, Rielly.) Diss idyll (Eire), yes? Ha, no! Justin rows Tony, Eli erodes Sid. See Pleyel irk/cajole Rieley elpees, idiot café trader. A gnu: "Hi!" North, G.I. Reilly----rad!  

Ah, finally a Jack Rieley-renga! Always had a soft spot for this guy. I even wrote him a memorial (non-pal.) haiku:

        John Frank Rieley III
"Are you sleeping, Brother John?"
       'JACK' of many trades

In MY book, he deserves the full 'per verse' treatment (NO, I still don't mean it like THAT - though according to jk, Jack  DID come in but all corners of the world, including 'U') so he'll get the double tanka+haiku-palindrome [featuring DARYL Dragon, RON Wood(!), Carl's sons JONAH & JUSTIN, Pet Sounds-lyricist: TONY Asher and ditto-conductor SID Sharp, Pleyel (composer and/or piano manufacturer) and jk's pet: ELI Wallach. And YES, Rieley did have at least one elpee: "Western Justice" And upon reflexion, it seems like the two G.I. soldiers: NORTH & REILLY can only be the corporals: (palindromic'ly named) >Radar< O`REILLY (from M.A.S.H) & Oliver NORTH :]

>DARYL: "Lie right, RON!
I hung a red artefactoid!
I SEE Pleyel (Eire) - LO!"
JACK RILEY elpees dissed? (O'Reiley).
Not S, W or N - it's 'U'.

JONAH's eye: Rielly?
Diss idyll (Eire), yes? Ha, NO!
JUSTIN rows TONY
ELI erodes SID (see Pleyel):
"Irk/cajole Rieley elpees!

(Idiot cafe TRADER!}"
A gnu: "Hi NORTH {G.I.}
REILLY ---- RAD!"<

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A lot of loose ends tied up very neatly there, Rasmus. Yes indeed, it's Camille Pleyel, whose path crossed that of Hector Berlioz with almost fatal results (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Pleyel).

And now... The truly dire "Happy Endings" gets the chop, palindromically speaking (I've put all the relevant words in italics). Regrettably the Easter Bunny is now an exotic dish. Note the curious exchange between Peter Pan (clearly stranded in Never Never Land) and his shrink:  

Ron, I'm "Sur" Richard! Espagnol Boys order deli bunny-ball ulna. Pa?----nap! See Camelots at nasal R. Even Revenger Reign/I.D. Net are ferret epic. I, Van, am in Neptune happy. [pp] A he-nut! Penniman, Avici, Peter... refer at ending. I err, e.g., never never. L.A. Santa stole mace (España). Pan: "Lullaby N, nubile D, red rosy oblong apse". Dr.: "Ah----Cirrus Minor!"

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Gary Usher never made it into my BW lyricist palindrome so now the lucky bugger gets this ragged one all to himself, together with eight of his co-writes (in italics):   

Gary: "Aw, an URL!" Lew to Lyle: "No less amnesty!" Belt 'til nets are in upon sandbar ("Chug-A-Lug", "Room" (trad.)). Tips? Secrets? Eh? "Clock", "409"----I lose nine soli (904-k, Colchester Cesspit, Dartmoor Gulag). Uh, crab DNA's no punier as Ten Little BYTs en masse (lonely lot). "We'll-Run-Away Rag!"

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Let me be the first. John now has  10 K`s  worth of postings (and counting) to his good name over there in his "NEBENGESCHÄFT" 'running' that other `Beach Boys forum` !!  If that doesn`t call for a H^IQ-PAL.[=jk], I don`t know what does:

>YO! John K[ay]s T*N THOUSAND

             'DNAs` ! U'~oh: TnT`s !

             YAK ?  N°ho : JOY !!<

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Let me be the first. John now has almost  10 K`s  worth of postings (and counting) to his good name over there in his "NEBENGESCHÄFFT"  running that other `Beach Boys forum` !!  If that doesn`t call for a H^IQ-PAL.[=jk], I don`t know what does:

>YO! John K[ay]s T*N THOUSAND

             DNAs ! U'~oh: TnT`s !

             YAK ?  N°ho : JOY !!<

Thank you, Rasmus. I should imagine you'll be the first and the last. We only make small ripples over there, you know.
 
I should point out that I don't run the other place but just post there a lot, so I suppose it does have my stamp on it to an extent... The other prolific poster there is Cool Cool Water.

Talking of other places, a major player in Beach Boy Fan Land is having his birthday today. This has been celebrated on "my" forum but not on "his". Odd, wouldn't you say?       

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This is my desperate attempt (including some of the usual suspects) to palindromically incorporate the titles and BB co-authors of two books that are all over this forum. It does fall apart near the end (where it reads like a Babelfish translation, largely thanks to the major problem of reversing Wilson) but the final sentence puts everything back into wonderful perspective. Enjoy!
 
"Emma, I'd Etna Wilson," I blabbed. "O ogre, have a Danko oblate ponder reef! I (Lyme Regis) rip/rev L.A. vibrations. Yo, Brian! O bedlam... Ron, tame vole! Kim, add A, edit B! Beach, CA, ebb tide: add a Mike Love mat, normal debonair boys. No, I tar bivalve R. Pirsig, ere my life err. Ed, no petal book----nada! Eva her good ebb albinos Li wanted. I am me."

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After all the recent excitement, back to boring old palindromes. That said, this iffy one broaches a hot item in its own circuitous way. Perhaps I should add that CILB is the Florida-based Construction Industry Licensing Board:

Flexi ferrets evolve IKEA, it unimparted as gulp, sirrah. Florida, eh, Raja? Dennocrats sneer "Get a leg." Indiana Brupublicans secure P.A. (I pot). Ullapool is at Sinair----bet no Carlivores! Serov: "Il raconte!" Brianistas, I loop all: Utopia, Peru, Cessna, CILB... up urban aid! Nigel ate greens. Star conned a Jarhead. I, Rolf Harris, plug Sade, trap minutiae, Kiev Lovester. Refix, elf!

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Let me be the first. John now has  10 K`s  worth of postings (and counting) to his good name over there in his "NEBENGESCHÄFT" 'running' that other `Beach Boys forum` !!  If that doesn`t call for a H^IQ-PAL.[=jk], I don`t know what does:

>YO! John K[ay]s T*N THOUSAND

             'DNAs` ! U'~oh: TnT`s !

             YAK ?  N°ho : JOY !!<

Yes, you made it , sir (1o.ooo posts)! Over here you've 'only' got 25% of that number (2500ish) - but getting there ... eventually!
beachboysforum.freeforums.org

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Neither Brian nor Mike chose the following title for their new biographies - probably wisely so! By the great palindromist WILL THOMAS:

"A Gassy Obese Boy's Saga"

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Neither Brian nor Mike chose the following title for their new biographies - probably wisely so! By the great palindromist WILL THOMAS:

"A Gassy Obese Boy's Saga"

 

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Most of the animals in this off-kilter menagerie can be found in a BB song title:

Worms, i.e. Del's Sahara ebony: "Be, damsel." (Gaelic: "I do, cow.") Tempo woodpecker (Idaho), dawg, ibex, a bird rib... Axe big wad. Oh, a dire KC EP----doo wop me! Two codicil eagles made by no bear. A hassle? Deism row

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The theme of this palindrome is Mike's notorious rant at the 1988 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony. Regrettably, "interstescene" proved impossible to reverse!      

R.E.M., Mubarak? Nah! Spot pom turbomaniac. Camp Paul fan: "I'm a Jagger." O no! Design ivory ID (Dinah's). Alf (Leo) jams telegram. Did Tina, as harmony, bore Ross/Boss ex-attorney...? OK. O Yoko yen! "Rot, taxes!" sobs sore Robyn. Om, Rahsaan. (It did.) Marge lets Ma Joel flash an ID. DIY roving is e-donor. Egg a jam in a 'flu app. Macca in a mob rut. Mop-Top! Shankar a bummer??