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« on: March 29, 2016, 11:33:20 AM »

http://www.amazon.com/I-Am-Brian-Wilson-Memoir/dp/0306823063/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1459276337&sr=1-3&keywords=brian+wilson

No promotion on Facebook or anything yet, they must have just slipped this one out.

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2016, 11:47:08 AM »

It'd be hilarious if Mike and Brian's books were written exactly the same, but from the opposite perspective, with the exception of Brian dedicating a chapter solely to Be My Baby and Mike Love dedicating a chapter to Kokomo.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2016, 12:00:24 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

So, does anyone know the process in which they hammered out this book? I can't see Brian, sitting for a couple of hours a day and waxing poetically about his life. I look forward to reading this, but I already bought and read one biography that wasn't real.  Oh ya and looking forward to some genius on Clown action Grin
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 12:43:38 PM »

Tis a shame we lost Jason Fine, his work with Brian on the Rolling Stone stuff was so good.  Ben Greenman, anyone?
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2016, 12:47:30 PM »

I thought Ray was writing this with Brian??
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2016, 12:49:23 PM »

The Jason Fine "Rolling Stone" article on C50 from 2012 remains, along with the posts on this board from Howie Edelson, the definitive pieces of writing on C50. I always wished Fine could have gone back and extended his piece with the fallout from the aftermath of the tour. Based on Fine's articles, it sounded like a good choice.

Don't know about the new guy, but some article a little while back mentioned Ray Lawlor was helping Brian in some capacity as well (research?, organizing thoughts?), so that bodes well.

I feel like both "autobiographies" are probably going to be more like "authorized biographies" written in the first person.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2016, 02:05:09 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2016, 02:35:51 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2016, 02:36:51 PM »

Agreed Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2016, 02:45:46 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...

I doubt Brian personally typed that. But so what? You do realize that autobiography "co-writers" actually do most of the writing? Often or usually all of it, in terms of the literal pen-to-paper (or typing)?

Also, people typically have a different "literary voice" than their speaking voice, even Brian. I don't speak exactly the same as I write.

Mike's Facebook posts, which I'm going to assume he does actually write, don't sound exactly the same as he does in interviews. It's his "literary voice" or "writer's voice." Whatever you want to call it.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2016, 04:35:29 PM »

That sort of promotional blurb is usually written by someone hired by the publisher.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2016, 05:39:40 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 11:12:27 PM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...

This is awfully ironic coming from a guy whose posts generally read as if they are written at the behest of Mike Love.

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2016, 05:12:01 AM »

Another Brian book coming out?
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2016, 05:51:56 AM »

Another Brian book coming out?

The difference?  Brian will actually participate in providing this book's content.  In fact he already has.  October 11th then...I will lift my ban on reading about 'the story'.  I just don't want to support [with even 1 dollar] those who I feel are but sad and negative forces in terms of my enjoyment of this continuing story and the unfolding successes acruing from it...especially the NEW music and the people who "make it Charlie".

This musical body of work is to be celebrated and enjoyed.  The accomplishments ... to be admired.  The reality of creativity is inspirational each and every time.  To bitch and moan and complain about it constantly...or to wallow in the glory of past untoward deeds...does NOT add to the true fact that this sojourn is still an amazing voyage not a 'festival' for the self-made pitiful remnants of the well known bumps along the path.  It's about survival and rising UP...and not those selfish 'downers' who only seem to care about their wallets.

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2016, 07:17:07 AM »

To be honest, the best I hope for with these sorts of books is, if we're REALLY lucky, is an interesting or charming or humorous take with some fun anecdotes, maybe some more info on the early years that most books don't cover, and maybe some filling-in of episodes that aren't well-documented in any detail (e.g. C50).

Really, the stunning, revelatory books are going to be the Mark Lewisohn-type of books, things like James Murphy's "Becoming the Beach Boys." Well-written and deeply-researched books that delve into the nuts and bolts of the story, both the nerdy, technical side of things and the inter-personal stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2016, 08:58:04 AM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."


I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...



Interesting statement. When I read it, I was surprised how much it sounded like Brian to my ears (...eyes?). Only of course stretched out or filled up by his co-author.
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2016, 09:20:52 AM »

"My life has been written about over and over again, and that’s mostly okay with me. Other people can talk about my life. Sometimes they’ll get it right and sometimes they’ll get it wrong. For me, when I think back across my own life, there are so many things that are painful. Sometimes I don’t like discussing them. Sometimes I don’t even like remembering them. But as I get older, the shape of that pain has changed. Sometimes memories come back to me when I least expect them. Maybe that’s the only way it works when you’ve lived the life I’ve lived: starting a band with my brothers that was managed by my father, watching my father become difficult and then impossible, watching myself become difficult and then impossible, watching women I loved come and go, watching children come into the world, watching my brothers get older, watching them pass out of the world. Some of those things shaped me. Others scarred me. Sometimes it was hard to tell the difference. When I watched my father fly into a rage and take swings at me and my brothers, was that shaping or scarring? When we watched him grow frustrated with his day job and take solace in music, was that shaping or scarring? Those are all memories but I can’t get to them all at once. I’ve had a whole lifetime to take them in. Now I have a whole book to put them out there."

I wonder who wrote that ^ for Brian? I hope somebody tells him...
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 09:40:43 AM »

I think it'd be interesting if SJS elaborated on what he thinks of modern-day Brian Wilson. It seems that he thinks he is incapable of making new music, writing his own thoughts or making his own decisions. He seems to think of him as something close to a brain-damaged vegetable. And instead of hinting at it with snark, I think he should own up to what he's been saying lately.
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2016, 12:52:16 PM »

To be honest, the best I hope for with these sorts of books is, if we're REALLY lucky, is an interesting or charming or humorous take with some fun anecdotes, maybe some more info on the early years that most books don't cover, and maybe some filling-in of episodes that aren't well-documented in any detail (e.g. C50).

This is spot on. I'm hoping for the best from both books and this is probably best case scenario.
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2016, 08:00:56 PM »

Ben Greenman? Last I heard Ray was doing the book with Brian. There was also talk of this being an oral biography of Brian last year, but the word "memoir" indicates that idea was ditched. As others have stated, I don't expect much from either Mike or Brian's books, but it seems odd that it's gone through three ghost writers by now.

And before anyone has a cow, nearly all celeb bios are ghostwritten. It's not a slam on either Brian or Mike. I would expect them to use ghostwriters.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2016, 10:10:09 AM »

It's a bad idea to release BW's book close in time to the release of Mike Love's book.  The average book buyer is not going to buy two Beach Boys books within the space of a few months.  Wait until 2017.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2016, 10:12:53 AM »

It's a bad idea to release BW's book close in time to the release of Mike Love's book.  The average book buyer is not going to buy two Beach Boys books within the space of a few months.  Wait until 2017.


I don't think the average book buyer is going to buy Mike Love's book. So I guess there's no problem from Brian's publisher's side
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2016, 11:54:16 AM »

I don't know how Mike's book will fare, but there is likely to be a substantial amount of publicity attached to it.  Especially if Mike writes some salacious stuff.
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2016, 12:43:16 PM »

Hopefully there is no fear, with Mike's 'book' being released to the public first, that Brian will feel like he was beaten to the punch and, as a result, abandon the book idea...leaving it lying on some distant shelf somewhere for 40 + years claiming that he burned the manuscript. Wink

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