Rock n Roll to the Rescue Producer credits

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« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2016, 10:44:15 AM »

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I think "Here Comes The Night" is well produced, the lead and backing vocals are excellent, and, having heard it on AM radio in 1979 while cruising around, it sounded pretty good. I'm still waiting for an official digital/CD release of the single version so I can put it on a comp! police

Released on the 1995 2CD UK comp The Best Of The Beach Boys.

CD 1
01. The Beach Boys - California girls (02:39)
02. The Beach Boys - Surfin' U.S.A. (02:28)
03. The Beach Boys - Little deuce coupe (01:39)
04. The Beach Boys - Fun fun fun (02:20)
05. The Beach Boys - Surfer girl (02:28)
06. The Beach Boys - I get around (02:14)
07. The Beach Boys - Girls on the beach (02:22)
08. The Beach Boys - Don't worry baby (02:48)
09. The Beach Boys - When I grow up (to be a Mmn) (02:01)
10. The Beach Boys - All summer long (02:05)
11. The Beach Boys - Wendy (02:15)
12. The Beach Boys - Do you wanna dance (02:19)
13. The Beach Boys - Dance dance dance (01:59)
14. The Beach Boys - In my room (02:13)
15. The Beach Boys - Help me Rhonda (02:48)
16. The Beach Boys - Then I kissed her (02:14)
17. The Beach Boys - The little girl I once knew (02:31)
18. The Beach Boys - Barbara-Ann (02:07)
19. The Beach Boys - Sloop John B. (02:58)
20. The Beach Boys - You're so good to me (02:16)
21. The Beach Boys - Caroline no (02:53)
22. The Beach Boys - God only knows (02:50)
23. The Beach Boys - Wouldn't it be nice (02:23)
24. The Beach Boys - Heroes and villains (03:36)

CD 2
01. The Beach Boys - Good vibrations (03:37)
02. The Beach Boys - Darlin' (02:12)
03. The Beach Boys - Wild honey (02:37)
04. The Beach Boys - Friends (02:31)
05. The Beach Boys - Do it again (02:25)
06. The Beach Boys - Bluebirds over the mountain (02:53)
07. The Beach Boys - I can hear music (02:39)
08. The Beach Boys - Break away (02:55)
09. The Beach Boys - Cottonfields (The cotton song) (03:02)
10. The Beach Boys - Forever (02:39)
11. The Beach Boys - Tears in the morning (04:07)
12. The Beach Boys - Disney girls (04:09)
13. The Beach Boys - Surf's up (04:12)
14. The Beach Boys - Sail on sailor (03:21)
15. The Beach Boys - Rock and roll music (02:30)
16. The Beach Boys - Here comes the night (04:35)
17. The Beach Boys - Lady Lynda (04:02)
18. The Beach Boys - Sumahama (04:12)
19. The Beach Boys - California dreamin' (03:12)
20. The Beach Boys - Kokomo (03:36)

Very fair comp, actually...

You wouldn't happen to (cough) own that comp, would you? Wink

But of course.


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Re: Rock n Roll to the Rescue Producer credits

« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2016, 10:50:03 AM »

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All in all, one of the cool aspects of BB fandom is that their wide body of work provides for some pronounced differences of opinion concerning various tracks. So I'll (gulp) say it again -- I've always liked the disco version of Here Comes the Night.

What I have noticed through the years is - AMONG BEACH BOY'S FANS - the problem with the disco version of "Here Comes The Night" isn't the track itself, but the length and space it takes up on L.A. Light Album (which could've been used for another 2-3 songs). Also, it did come out slightly late in the disco era, and it had to fight the negative stigma of The Beach Boys jumping on the disco "bandwagon".

I think "Here Comes The Night" is well produced, the lead and backing vocals are excellent, and, having heard it on AM radio in 1979 while cruising around, it sounded pretty good. I'm still waiting for an official digital/CD release of the single version so I can put it on a comp! police

This thread made me cue up HCTN last night and give it a listen for the first time in a long time. Yup, still love it!


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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2016, 11:04:27 AM »

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 12, 2016, 09:01:27 AM

Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 12, 2016, 06:22:37 AM

Released on the 1995 2CD UK comp The Best Of The Beach Boys.

Also on the 3-CD Platinum Collection: Sounds Of Summer Edition, which is still in print and probably the best-value compilation you could imagine -- sixty songs for £10.25 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Platinum-Collection-Sounds-Summer/dp/B00023XWIW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457809263&sr=8-1&keywords=beach+boys+platinum+collection
(The second Fun Fun Fun on the tracklisting is the Status Quo version).


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« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2016, 11:15:18 AM »

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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 12, 2016, 06:22:37 AM

Released also on the 2000 UK CD The Best Of The Beach Boys 1970-1986: The Brother Years.


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« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2016, 11:15:32 AM »

You know I was thinking when I was listening to HCTN is LA (on this track, "Good Timin," "Baby Blue," etc.) was one of the very few times Carl took the BW falsetto role - I can only think of one or two other instances offhand where that happened. And he sounded amazing doing it. Carl's falsetto howl on disco HCTN - spine tingling! Wow...sorry, but it dusts Brian's on the WILD HONEY track.

Thread drift, sorry....


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« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2016, 11:20:18 AM »

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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 12, 2016, 09:01:27 AM

Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 12, 2016, 06:22:37 AM

Released also on the 2000 UK CD The Best Of The Beach Boys 1970-1986: The Brother Years.

Well, thanks for the heads-up everybody! Obviously, I gotta get caught up on my UK Beach Boys' compilations. police


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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2016, 12:45:34 PM »

Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 12, 2016, 11:20:18 AM

Well, thanks for the heads-up everybody! Obviously, I gotta get caught up on my UK Beach Boys' compilations. police

Yeah, it was a top forty hit over here, so it appears on most of the more thorough compilations.
(LA was actually the best album in terms of generating UK charting singles the band had had since 20/20, with Here Comes The Night going top forty, Lady Lynda making number six, and Sumahama going to forty-five. The Beach Boys' chart career over here is surprisingly different...)


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« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2016, 02:01:13 PM »

Back on topic, I've always loved RRTTR, especially Brian and Carl's lead vocals and Mike's backing vocals.

I would go so far as to say it is the I Get Around of the 80s Cool


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« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2016, 06:26:07 PM »

Have always loved this song.


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« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2016, 06:30:46 PM »

does anybody know the deal that this was released on Capitol and not CBS?
did they sign a new deal at that point?


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« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2016, 06:34:10 PM »

playing my 12" single of this. it contains the 'party mix' and the 'extended dance' version.
these still aren't found on any CD release. Thank goodness for records!


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« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2016, 10:59:15 PM »

Quote from: bringahorseinhere? on March 12, 2016, 06:30:46 PM

does anybody know the deal that this was released on Capitol and not CBS?
did they sign a new deal at that point?

The deal with Caribou/CBS expired after the release of the 1985 album, as the company had no intention of resigning them. Seems no-one else was much interested either. In the subsequent years, the band had singles - sometimes in collaboration, granted - on Capitol, Tin Pan Apple, Critique, Elektra, RCA, Scotti Bros. & River North.


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« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2016, 11:42:45 PM »

Quote from: Steve Latshaw on March 11, 2016, 07:21:59 AM

I always liked this track. I saw it live at a couple of shows in 1986. The first was in Evansville, Indiana, on July 30th. Katrina and the Waves were the opening act. The Beach Boys opened with Rock & Roll to the Rescue, followed by Rock & Roll Music and then Good Vibrations, in a radically redesigned set list. Mike sang lead on the live version; I've often thought it would have been a bigger hit had he sung lead on the studio recording in place of Brian.

Here's the set list from the next night, in Dayton, Ohio, thanks to AGD. This is the same set list I saw:

1. Rock and Roll To The Rescue
2. Rock and Roll Music
3. Good Vibrations
4. Getcha Back
5. Darlin
6. Dance Dance Dance
7. Wouldn't It Be Nice
8. God Only Knows
9. Sloop John B
10. Come Go With Me
11. Okie From Muskogee (briefly)
12. Little Deuce Coupe
13. Little Old Lady From Pasadena
14. Hey Little Cobra
15. Shut Down
16. 409
17. Little GTO
18. I Get Around
19. In My Room
20. Do It Again
21. Help Me Rhonda
22. Surfin Safari
23. Surf City
24. Surfin USA
Encore:
25. California Dreamin'
26. California Girls
27. Barbara Ann
28. Fun Fun Fun

I saw them on the same tour, but I'm sure California Girls was the opener, with Rescue in the #2 spot.


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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2016, 08:53:28 AM »

Quote from: Lonely Summer on March 12, 2016, 11:42:45 PM

Quote from: Steve Latshaw on March 11, 2016, 07:21:59 AM

I saw them on the same tour, but I'm sure California Girls was the opener, with Rescue in the #2 spot.

I loved the Okie From Muskogee version from the 1980s it might be short but it actually was a country version of the song and not the pop version when they played it in the early 1970s. Its a fun version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ld3ETZweFE


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« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2016, 03:17:14 PM »

- Love Rock n Roll to the Rescue. First heard it at home on a Beach Boys special on the radio hosted by Casey Kasem. The FM never played good at our house so it was hard to hear but exciting to hear a brand new BB song on the radio. After it all it had been a year since Getcha Back. Liked the song and my brother and I were wondering if that was Brian singing lead. When he bought the 12 inch single on cassette later that year his repeated listens had him report sadly it wasnt Brian singing, just Mike sped up. So for over 20 years afterwards I thought it was a Mike lead vocal but I still dug it.
- Love the video. Brian looking like he stepped off the back of the Holland LP with that long hair unshaven look and he seems to get more mellow after changing shirts to the grey sweater. Every time I watch it I wonder why Carl cracks up so much over Al doing that dance move while they sit in that car.
- Saw the boys the first time that summer at Red Rocks just outside of Denver. Just showed up and bought tickets from a scalper. Southside Johnny opened for them. The opening song was Rock n Roll to the Rescue. To me it didnt sound as good as the record and Al blew the lyrics. Mike nudged him and pointed to a paper below Al's mic, where I presume the lyrics were taped.


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« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2016, 03:28:21 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2016, 04:15:35 PM »

Al Jardine--great vocalist, horrible memory for lyrics.


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« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2016, 04:59:03 PM »

You are correct sir. If I had a nickel for every time Al screwed up WIBN, I'd have a lot of nickels.


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« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2016, 05:58:19 PM »

I Don't know how Al can be so forgetful! but who cares! He did screw up on the very first live performance of Rock And Roll To The Rescue if you can believe it!!! https://youtu.be/w_Uj1XFge7w


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« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2016, 11:32:23 PM »

Quote from: southbay on March 14, 2016, 04:15:35 PM

Al Jardine--great vocalist, horrible memory for lyrics.

He's singing all the right words, but not necessarily in the right order..


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« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2016, 12:04:49 AM »

Other than Knebworth, I don't think I've heard any live version of Lady Lynda where Al got the words right.


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« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2016, 07:09:49 AM »

Quote from: Ognir Rrats on March 15, 2016, 12:04:49 AM

Other than Knebworth, I don't think I've heard any live version of Lady Lynda where Al got the words right.

I think he got the words right at the 1980 DC show. That performance also has an awesome moment when Al totally gets a weird frog in his voice and sings a sour note, and he actually starts cracking up while singing it.

But c'mon, I think Al just takes time to nail the lyrics down. It took until the 2012 C50 tour (and his solo album) to sing the final lines on the final verse of "California Dreamin'" correctly. Granted, I don't think he was ever forgetting the words previously on that one, just choosing for whatever reason to sing it the way.


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« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2016, 11:48:38 AM »

Wasn't that because the third verse on the studio version actually was the first verse flown in?


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« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2016, 12:16:33 PM »

Quote from: Fall Breaks on March 15, 2016, 11:48:38 AM

Wasn't that because the third verse on the studio version actually was the first verse flown in?

On the second version, yes. Grin


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« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2016, 12:38:19 PM »

The third verse may be simply a dub of the first verse (on the '86 version, as AGD mentions). On the other hand, the third verse on the '82 version sounds like the same recording/vocal take as the third verse on the '86 version (whereas Carl's second verse was re-recorded between the '82 and '86 versions).

That implies to me that Al made a conscious decision to sing the first verse again for the third verse. So it may well be that on the '86 version, they technically flew Al's "third verse" vocal into the first verse (replacing Mike's first verse from the '82 version).

Either way, copying and pasting Al's vocal *because* they wanted the same lyrics on the first and third verses sounds much more plausible than having the same first and third verse lyrics *because* they had to copy and paste. That implies Al was unable to add any vocals in 1986.

The fact that Al sang it the very same way from 1986 until pre-2012 tells me that, for whatever reason, he was choosing to use those lyrics.

His studio re-recording, first issued on the second 2012 edition of "A Postcard from California", though probably recorded at any point in the prior five to ten years, was the first time I heard Al sing the "if I didn't tell her" third verse. He subsequently sang it that way on C50 as well.

I'm not sure if Al just had the lyrics wrong all these years, or just decided arbitrarily to go back to the lyrics of the original Mamas & Papas recording.


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