Fuller House

[KDS]

They could just have Mike do a cameo.  I remember one episode from the original show where Mike showed up to sing Be True to Your School for a telethon.   

Or, if M & B show up to visit the Tanners, they could say "Hey it's Mike and Bruce from The Beach Boys." 

I think the last BB appearance on scripted TV was Home Improvement with Mike, Bruce, Carl, Al, and Matt Jardine.  That had to be around 1995-1996. 

Maybe it's as simple as that, but on the other hand I'm not convinced it's necessarily quite that simple anymore in 2016 after the bitter, public fallout over who constitutes the brand name in what capacity. Maybe Mike Love could appear as Mike Love, but not as Mike Love of the BBs. Considering how Al was treated when he tried to use the brand name himself, I'd imagine Mike would think such a scenario not unfair, right?

Other than the fact that M&B can't record new music as The Beach Boys, I'll admit, I don't know the full ins and outs of the agreement. 

I don't think Mike and/or Bruce would run into any issues appearing as members of The Beach Boys.  But I also doubt the two of them would walk into the Tanners' house and have them go "Hey, its The Beach Boys!!!!" 

And Stephanie would say "Big boys!"

And Mike would reply "Big............" OH nevermind. 

Fans of the original show, Beach Boys fans or not, would say, "Hey, there were five of them last time.  What gives?" 

[CenturyDeprived]

Other than the fact that M&B can't record new music as The Beach Boys, I'll admit, I don't know the full ins and outs of the agreement.  

I don't think Mike and/or Bruce would run into any issues appearing as members of The Beach Boys.  But I also doubt the two of them would walk into the Tanners' house and have them go "Hey, its The Beach Boys!!!!"  
  

It would be particularly excruciating if legal restrictions would make the dialog read like "Hey, it's (members of the touring version of) The Beach Boys!"

I could see the prospect of a cameo understandably being avoided entirely by the writers if even a hint of that kind of restriction was floated.

[SamMcK]

I would think that the casual audience would probably be wondering where Brian Wilson is surely, especially since his profile is probably higher than the other living members combined. Particularly post Love & Mercy.

[KDS]

I would think that the casual audience would probably be wondering where Brian Wilson is surely, especially since his profile is probably higher than the other living members combined. Particularly post Love & Mercy.

I would think so, and I highly doubt Mike and Bruce would show up at the Tanner house with Foskett, Ike, and Scott Totten. 

[The Shift]

… I don't know if the novelty is really sustainable. 

Are we talking about Donald Trump again?

[Uncle Jesse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XELGorOpBM

At 2:06 in this video we see that just Mike and Bruce are present in this episode.  I think it's been pretty common in the show for various permutations of the band to show up out of the blue, so I don't think it would be all that alarming if just Mike and Bruce show up in an episode of Fuller House.

[CenturyDeprived]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XELGorOpBM

At 2:06 in this video we see that just Mike and Bruce are present in this episode.  I think it's been pretty common in the show for various permutations of the band to show up out of the blue, so I don't think it would be all that alarming if just Mike and Bruce show up in an episode of Fuller House.

Yeah, but remember... that was during Carl's lifetime, back before the sh*t hit the fan in terms of how the band was represented. In 1992, Mike was allowed to release an album as "The Beach Boys" without Brian's involvement; not so today. Since 1998, and particularly since post C50, the identity of the band and who gets to "be" the band has certainly been on the minds of the members and their lawyers.

I don't think that a nearly 30-year old past appearance, during a time period when all living members of the band were welcome to publicly represent themselves as members of the band (but only some just happened to make that appearance) can be compared to what is likely a far more sticky situation today.  Again... we *might* perhaps have Mike and/or Bruce appearing on Fuller House next season, but if it happens, I think there would be some legal hoops for them to clear first... and I'm not convinced Netflix would just approve the writing and filming of a scene without being *very* careful about how M&B and their band status are mentioned. I'd be surprised if it happens at all.

[Uncle Jesse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XELGorOpBM

At 2:06 in this video we see that just Mike and Bruce are present in this episode.  I think it's been pretty common in the show for various permutations of the band to show up out of the blue, so I don't think it would be all that alarming if just Mike and Bruce show up in an episode of Fuller House.

Yeah, but remember... that was during Carl's lifetime, back before the sh*t hit the fan in terms of how the band was represented. In 1992, Mike was allowed to release an album as "The Beach Boys" without Brian's involvement; not so today. Since 1998, and particularly since post C50, the identity of the band and who gets to "be" the band has certainly been on the minds of the members and their lawyers.

I don't think that a nearly 30-year old past appearance, during a time period when all living members of the band were welcome to publicly represent themselves as members of the band (but only some just happened to make that appearance) can be compared to what is likely a far more sticky situation today.  Again... we *might* have Mike and/or Bruce appearing on Fuller House next season, but if it happens, I think there would be some legal hoops for them to discuss, and I'm not convinced Netflix would just approve the writing and filming of a scene without being *very* careful about how M&B and their band status are mentioned. I'd be surprised if it happens at all.

Yeah I for sure agree with you about their possibly being a lot of behind the scenes muckery going on.  But I was more speaking about how things would look from the perspective of your average joe watching Fuller House who know's next to nothing about the band.  They probably wouldn't be really suspicious if only two guys showed up claiming to be the Beach Boys. 

[Marty Castillo]

If the show makes it through an entire second season without The Beach Boys appearing on it whatsoever in any shape or form, I think it will prove my theory right, that there is some sort of legal BRI hornet's nest with how the band would be represented membership–wise on a scripted show in 2016.  All logic would point to the band being invited and happily appearing on the show, if it were simply an easy matter devoid of politics.

Yeah, I don't entirely buy in to this. The original run of the show had 192 episodes, of which, some iteration of the Beach Boys showed up 3-4 times (if my memory serves me). I've only watched the pilot of Fuller House, but with Stamos essentially just making cameos, I don't see as big a tie to the show for the Beach Boys. Plus, the Beach Boys had a little more heat in the late-80s, early-90s. Short of another reunion with the surviving members, I just don't see it. Would it surprise me? No, but I don't think it is as simple as them not appearing equals Mike & Bruce not legally being able to do so.

[CenturyDeprived]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XELGorOpBM

At 2:06 in this video we see that just Mike and Bruce are present in this episode.  I think it's been pretty common in the show for various permutations of the band to show up out of the blue, so I don't think it would be all that alarming if just Mike and Bruce show up in an episode of Fuller House.

Yeah, but remember... that was during Carl's lifetime, back before the sh*t hit the fan in terms of how the band was represented. In 1992, Mike was allowed to release an album as "The Beach Boys" without Brian's involvement; not so today. Since 1998, and particularly since post C50, the identity of the band and who gets to "be" the band has certainly been on the minds of the members and their lawyers.

I don't think that a nearly 30-year old past appearance, during a time period when all living members of the band were welcome to publicly represent themselves as members of the band (but only some just happened to make that appearance) can be compared to what is likely a far more sticky situation today.  Again... we *might* have Mike and/or Bruce appearing on Fuller House next season, but if it happens, I think there would be some legal hoops for them to discuss, and I'm not convinced Netflix would just approve the writing and filming of a scene without being *very* careful about how M&B and their band status are mentioned. I'd be surprised if it happens at all.

Yeah I for sure agree with you about their possibly being a lot of behind the scenes muckery going on.  But I was more speaking about how things would look from the perspective of your average joe watching Fuller House who know's next to nothing about the band.  They probably wouldn't be really suspicious if only two guys showed up claiming to be the Beach Boys.  

I think your average Joe might not know... but then again, the audience of a streaming show that beams into many millions of homes would probably spark more talk and conversation (and thus potential controversy), being that a scripted show is something that becomes far more immortalized and dissected, when compared to a relatively off-the-radar M&B tour in a casino or state fair. I'm not sure hat a Fuller House audience is as "hip" and "in the know" as a nerdier Big Bang Theory audience, but I do nevertheless think a good amount of people will watch Fuller House for ironic reasons - and those viewers might raise more questions about BBs members in an appearance.

If not for politics, it really should be a no-brainer that the BBs would appear on the show. Undoubtedly. If a 2nd season BBs appearance doesn't wind up happening, their non-appearance would be highly unlikely to occur for reasons other than the current state of the band.

I'm sure a discussion of this sort would happen (or has happened) in the Full House writers' room, in the event that Stamos lobbied for M&B to make an appearance. The current state of the band is not going to be a non-issue, should a BBs appearance be floated as an idea. It's something they'd have to contend with, one way or another. Whether or not Mike & Bruce are outright legally "barred" from appearing as "The Beach Boys" on the show, it may simply be that the state of the band/brand is just not an attractive/appealing thing to want to touch with a 10-foot pole, from the producers'/writers' perspectives.

[CenturyDeprived]

If the show makes it through an entire second season without The Beach Boys appearing on it whatsoever in any shape or form, I think it will prove my theory right, that there is some sort of legal BRI hornet's nest with how the band would be represented membership–wise on a scripted show in 2016.  All logic would point to the band being invited and happily appearing on the show, if it were simply an easy matter devoid of politics.

Yeah, I don't entirely buy in to this. The original run of the show had 192 episodes, of which, some iteration of the Beach Boys showed up 3-4 times (if my memory serves me). I've only watched the pilot of Fuller House, but with Stamos essentially just making cameos, I don't see as big a tie to the show for the Beach Boys. Plus, the Beach Boys had a little more heat in the late-80s, early-90s. Short of another reunion with the surviving members, I just don't see it. Would it surprise me? No, but I don't think it is as simple as them not appearing equals Mike & Bruce not legally being able to do so.

While there's always a chance that the show writers have zero interest in bringing the band on at this time, I really tend to doubt that. They sung Forever on the pilot of the new show (twice), remember, and backing members of various BB incarnations were anonymously present. The writers are reaching back into their bag of tricks to pull out ALL the stops for references to things that viewers would fondly remember from the old show. Especially since the Olsen twins aren't there, they are finding ways to compensate, and they play that nostalgia card very heavily.

I just can't see the BBs not logically being a part of that, or at least not being an idea floated around... and I also find it hard to believe that Mike wouldn't bug Stamos to try and make something happen, and that Stamos wouldn't thus lobby hard to the show's writers/producers (of which Stamos, himself, is one!) 

Mike's not a guy who would want to miss an opportunity like this, especially seeing as the show is an apparent hit. Mike has clung to Stamos for decades; you think Mike wouldn't want to generate more Stamos/Beach Boys press if he could? Just because the band only appeared 3-4 times (I'm not sure of the exact number either), the fact that Stamos never went away from The BBs and has stayed on for decades has only served to drill the Full House/BBs connection deeper into the public consciousness, and that cemented connection is what makes a BBs non-appearance all the more surprising.

In theory, a BBs appearance done right would generate a bunch of applause by the audience at the taping, and be an opportunity for the show to have a viral nostalgia moment. The thing is, I'm not sure there's a way to do a 2016 "BBs" appearance and do it "right", and I think the writers and producers would find themselves in a bit of a quandary.

[Juice Brohnston]

Stamos really is pretty tight with these guys

http://www.people.com/article/john-stamos-fuller-house-dating-mystery-woman

[Uncle Jesse]

I feel like this article is relevant

http://www.theonion.com/article/that-full-house-episode-where-they-meet-the-beach--2293

[Lonely Summer]

So we have Girl Meets World and Fuller House...can a revival of the Wonder Years be far behind? Of course it would be set in the 80's, so we could see Kevin's son walking his girl home - the new Winnie - as Getcha Back or Kokomo plays.

[Robbie Mac]

https://youtu.be/jYZPuji6Mk4

[sockittome]

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[Marty Castillo]

If the show makes it through an entire second season without The Beach Boys appearing on it whatsoever in any shape or form, I think it will prove my theory right, that there is some sort of legal BRI hornet's nest with how the band would be represented membership–wise on a scripted show in 2016.  All logic would point to the band being invited and happily appearing on the show, if it were simply an easy matter devoid of politics.

Yeah, I don't entirely buy in to this. The original run of the show had 192 episodes, of which, some iteration of the Beach Boys showed up 3-4 times (if my memory serves me). I've only watched the pilot of Fuller House, but with Stamos essentially just making cameos, I don't see as big a tie to the show for the Beach Boys. Plus, the Beach Boys had a little more heat in the late-80s, early-90s. Short of another reunion with the surviving members, I just don't see it. Would it surprise me? No, but I don't think it is as simple as them not appearing equals Mike & Bruce not legally being able to do so.

While there's always a chance that the show writers have zero interest in bringing the band on at this time, I really tend to doubt that. They sung Forever on the pilot of the new show (twice), remember, and backing members of various BB incarnations were anonymously present. The writers are reaching back into their bag of tricks to pull out ALL the stops for references to things that viewers would fondly remember from the old show. Especially since the Olsen twins aren't there, they are finding ways to compensate, and they play that nostalgia card very heavily.

I just can't see the BBs not logically being a part of that, or at least not being an idea floated around... and I also find it hard to believe that Mike wouldn't bug Stamos to try and make something happen, and that Stamos wouldn't thus lobby hard to the show's writers/producers (of which Stamos, himself, is one!) 

Mike's not a guy who would want to miss an opportunity like this, especially seeing as the show is an apparent hit. Mike has clung to Stamos for decades; you think Mike wouldn't want to generate more Stamos/Beach Boys press if he could? Just because the band only appeared 3-4 times (I'm not sure of the exact number either), the fact that Stamos never went away from The BBs and has stayed on for decades has only served to drill the Full House/BBs connection deeper into the public consciousness, and that cemented connection is what makes a BBs non-appearance all the more surprising.

In theory, a BBs appearance done right would generate a bunch of applause by the audience at the taping, and be an opportunity for the show to have a viral nostalgia moment. The thing is, I'm not sure there's a way to do a 2016 "BBs" appearance and do it "right", and I think the writers and producers would find themselves in a bit of a quandary.

Well, my apologies. This certainly seems like confirmation that there have been talks:

Q I know you had a couple of appearances in "Full House." Have you had any contact from "Fuller House" to have another go at a short, little cameo?
A Yeah, well, we're working on it. We're hoping to do that, I think it'd be fun to do, following up on what we'd done before. We'd love to do it, I've even spoken to the fellow who came up with 'Full House' originally … Jeff Franklin. He's directed some of the more current stuff on 'Fuller House,' so there've been conversations about it. John's a big Beach Boys fan, he loves coming out and playing drums with us. We backed him up on the song, "Forever," when Uncle Jesse got married on "Full House." That was the song he sang, and we did the backgrounds on it. And he did another version of it on "Fuller House," he just told me.

Source: http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/entertainment/article/Q-A-Beach-Boys-talk-TV-touring-and-The-Beatles-6869179.php

[Magic Transistor Radio]

The first episode is awful , but gets better after that. John Stamos is not one to f the regular characters any more so I he Beach Boy thing probably won't happen.

'Not one to f the regular characters?' A typo that has a completely different meaning! I meant John is not one of the main characters.

[CenturyDeprived]

If the show makes it through an entire second season without The Beach Boys appearing on it whatsoever in any shape or form, I think it will prove my theory right, that there is some sort of legal BRI hornet's nest with how the band would be represented membership–wise on a scripted show in 2016.  All logic would point to the band being invited and happily appearing on the show, if it were simply an easy matter devoid of politics.

Yeah, I don't entirely buy in to this. The original run of the show had 192 episodes, of which, some iteration of the Beach Boys showed up 3-4 times (if my memory serves me). I've only watched the pilot of Fuller House, but with Stamos essentially just making cameos, I don't see as big a tie to the show for the Beach Boys. Plus, the Beach Boys had a little more heat in the late-80s, early-90s. Short of another reunion with the surviving members, I just don't see it. Would it surprise me? No, but I don't think it is as simple as them not appearing equals Mike & Bruce not legally being able to do so.

While there's always a chance that the show writers have zero interest in bringing the band on at this time, I really tend to doubt that. They sung Forever on the pilot of the new show (twice), remember, and backing members of various BB incarnations were anonymously present. The writers are reaching back into their bag of tricks to pull out ALL the stops for references to things that viewers would fondly remember from the old show. Especially since the Olsen twins aren't there, they are finding ways to compensate, and they play that nostalgia card very heavily.

I just can't see the BBs not logically being a part of that, or at least not being an idea floated around... and I also find it hard to believe that Mike wouldn't bug Stamos to try and make something happen, and that Stamos wouldn't thus lobby hard to the show's writers/producers (of which Stamos, himself, is one!) 

Mike's not a guy who would want to miss an opportunity like this, especially seeing as the show is an apparent hit. Mike has clung to Stamos for decades; you think Mike wouldn't want to generate more Stamos/Beach Boys press if he could? Just because the band only appeared 3-4 times (I'm not sure of the exact number either), the fact that Stamos never went away from The BBs and has stayed on for decades has only served to drill the Full House/BBs connection deeper into the public consciousness, and that cemented connection is what makes a BBs non-appearance all the more surprising.

In theory, a BBs appearance done right would generate a bunch of applause by the audience at the taping, and be an opportunity for the show to have a viral nostalgia moment. The thing is, I'm not sure there's a way to do a 2016 "BBs" appearance and do it "right", and I think the writers and producers would find themselves in a bit of a quandary.

Well, my apologies. This certainly seems like confirmation that there have been talks:

Q I know you had a couple of appearances in "Full House." Have you had any contact from "Fuller House" to have another go at a short, little cameo?
A Yeah, well, we're working on it. We're hoping to do that, I think it'd be fun to do, following up on what we'd done before. We'd love to do it, I've even spoken to the fellow who came up with 'Full House' originally … Jeff Franklin. He's directed some of the more current stuff on 'Fuller House,' so there've been conversations about it. John's a big Beach Boys fan, he loves coming out and playing drums with us. We backed him up on the song, "Forever," when Uncle Jesse got married on "Full House." That was the song he sang, and we did the backgrounds on it. And he did another version of it on "Fuller House," he just told me.

Source: http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/entertainment/article/Q-A-Beach-Boys-talk-TV-touring-and-The-Beatles-6869179.php

Unsurprisingly, Mike wants in on the Fuller House series, and he's making efforts to make it happen. If it doesn't pan out in season 2, I would find it suspicious if band politics were not a reason for that. There's no good reason for it not to otherwise happen.

[KDS]

Maybe Mike wants to be on Fuller House, but Fuller House's handlers won't let it happen on his terms. 

[Emily]

Maybe Mike wants to be on Fuller House, but Fuller House's handlers won't let it happen on his terms. 

Ha.

[KDS]

Maybe Mike wants to be on Fuller House, but Fuller House's handlers won't let it happen on his terms. 

Ha.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. 

[CenturyDeprived]

Maybe Mike wants to be on Fuller House, but Fuller House's handlers won't let it happen on his terms.  

Ha.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  

Maybe Mike wants Full House (and Fuller House) creator Jeff Franklin alone in a room to co-write the episode without any interference.    After all, it seems Mike's in a real writing mood.

[KDS]

Maybe Mike wants to be on Fuller House, but Fuller House's handlers won't let it happen on his terms.  

Ha.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  

Maybe Mike wants Full House (and Fuller House) creator Jeff Franklin alone in a room to co-write the episode without any interference.   After all, it seems Mike's in a real writing mood.

I'm sure Jeff Franklin would welcome this. 

But, Mike is always bringing up Jodie Sweeten's drug abuse in the past.  And about how he never got credit for writing the famous "Let's order a vegetarian pizza" line from the 1988 episode. 

[Emily]

This board is making me laugh today.