2016 Oscars

[KDS]

http://oscars.nytimes.com/2016/ballot

So, Love and Mercy didn't receive one nomination. 

I predicted it a few months ago, but Straight Outta Compton got one for Best Original Screenplay, but zero for L&M. 

[CenturyDeprived]

http://oscars.nytimes.com/2016/ballot

So, Love and Mercy didn't receive one nomination. 

I predicted it a few months ago, but Straight Outta Compton got one for Best Original Screenplay, but zero for L&M. 

Very lame. I bet there are a few in the BB organization who are quite happy about this development.

This film trumps Ray, and is at least as good as Walk the Line. No reason for it being shut out like this, except for its early release date, and nonsense Hollywood politics.

[KDS]

I was surprised Mad Max got so many nominations.  I thought the Academy was too stuck up to even consider a movie like that. 

[Marty Castillo]

I haven't seen all the nominated films, so I can't make an educated judgement if L&M was snubbed. As a fan, I would have loved to see at least one nomination and it seemed like Dano was a lock. Oh, well.

[KDS]

On a side note, Elizabeth Banks is up for Razzie Redeemer Award. 

Not for her work in L&M, but for directing Pitch Perfect 2. 

[Douchepool]

I can't say I'm surprised.

[Robbie Mac]

I can't say I'm surprised.

It would have been killed by the blockbusters no matter when it was released. But if the studio wod have waited until December, it would have stood a much better chance.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

I'm not surprised either, although I expected to get a few low level nominations, which it didn't. Ultimately, it was too off-beat for the Academy's mediocre tastes.

[Douchepool]

We're all assuming that the folks in AMPAS give a damn about anything outside the mainstream. Occasionally they prove us wrong, but more often than not we're disappointed.

[Summertime Blooz]

It's disappointing. I thought for sure Dano would be nominated.

[jeffh]

Maybe it just wasn't good enough to garner a nomination. (Sorry)

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Maybe it just wasn't good enough to garner a nomination. (Sorry)

It's nothing to be sorry about. Art is indeed a subjective thing. Nevertheless, for me, the Oscars simply very rarely appreciate my favourite films. Those who hold that art is objective may respond to that by saying that I don't have good taste. Perhaps that's true. But ultimately it seems quite clear to me that the Academy has always had its aesthetic preferences and, rather than choosing the best films of the year, it chooses the films that best fit into that aesthetic box. Sometimes a film that strays outside of that box will get a few nominations. Sometimes the Academy will give a lot of attention to a movie that strays out of the box and manages to really capture the public so much that it would really raise eyebrows if it were overlooked. But mostly what the Academy likes are middle of the road movies, typically one that affirms status quo values in some grandiose way, and refuses to push the envelope in either its content or its style. I said as much back in September when I gave my reasons "why I see Love & Mercy as being by and large shut out from the Oscars." See below:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22845.msg541430.html#msg541430

[Pretty Funky]

Vanity Fair had some predictions including their own 'Dream Nominations'. I thought this was the best...

Dream Nomination: So long as we’re honoring music films, why not Love and Mercy, which recreates the lush recording process for Brian Wilson’s masterpiece Pet Sounds with unnerving accuracy—and actually shows you the many-layered process to make it all happen. It’s sound mixing, right there on the screen! —K.R


Also

Dream Nomination: You know what else would be cool? A nomination for the journeymen screenwriters behind Love and Mercy, a fractured portrait of Brian Wilson’s descent and salvation set in both the 60s and the 80s.—M.H.


http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/01/oscar-nominations-predictions

[Smilin Ed H]

f*** 'em.

[The Shift]

… and there's me labouring under the impression that Dano had been nominated.

Ah well… the lack of an award, no matter how high or low the regard in which that award is held, does not diminish the integrity of the performances or quality of the movie.

Still one of my favourite films of all time…

… and I get the impression that cast and crew have had a blast together.

(And if as some had suggested they'd waited until December to release this movie, others on this board would have groaned about the delays… can't please everyone!)

[Summertime Blooz]

Mad Max got 10 nominations and it came out in May, a month before L&M, so blaming release dates is lame.  I think the movie probably fails to make to make a strong enough connection for non-Beach Boys/Wilson afficionados and that is why it was shut out today. It's hard for people on this board (including myself) to watch this movie objectively, but I think we would mostly agree it certainly isn't a perfect work of art. The scenes of Pet Sounds being recorded are pure bliss for us, but not so much for others.

[KDS]

Mad Max got 10 nominations and it came out in May, a month before L&M, so blaming release dates is lame.  I think the movie probably fails to make to make a strong enough connection for non-Beach Boys/Wilson afficionados and that is why it was shut out today. It's hard for people on this board (including myself) to watch this movie objectively, but I think we would mostly agree it certainly isn't a perfect work of art. The scenes of Pet Sounds being recorded are pure bliss for us, but not so much for others.

That's a good point. 

I'm just a little surprised it didn't get a nod because of the glowing reviews it received. 

I don't really consider myself a film buff, so I'm completely out of touch with what the academy looks for.  My favorite genres - comedy and horror - are often completely ignored, so I usually pay the Academy no mind. 

[wantsomecorn]

The biggest snub has to be that Love and Mercy got absolutely nothing in the Sound Editing and Sound Mixing categories. What a joke.

[the professor]

Ontor can testify to this too, I hope, but for those of you who do not live here in LA, you really have no idea how gd f'in stupid people in this town are. Shameful that L and M received no nominations--ridiculous.

[mtaber]

Present company excluded, of course!

[Rocky Raccoon]

I'm very disappointed in the nominees in general this year.  I hope Spotlight wins big but The Revenant seems to be the favorite despite the fact that it looks boring as hell.

[the professor]

Of course

Present company excluded, of course!

[Chownow]

Mad Max got 10 nominations and it came out in May, a month before L&M, so blaming release dates is lame.  I think the movie probably fails to make to make a strong enough connection for non-Beach Boys/Wilson afficionados and that is why it was shut out today. It's hard for people on this board (including myself) to watch this movie objectively, but I think we would mostly agree it certainly isn't a perfect work of art. The scenes of Pet Sounds being recorded are pure bliss for us, but not so much for others.

Another explanation might be that people just didn't watch it. The only reason I watched it was because of the interesting cover art (or whatever the term is) with the silhouette and the target. Brian Wilson/beach boys biopic would have sounded very unappealing to me.

At the risk of starting a 15 page argument: Before seeing love & mercy, my impression of the beach boys was of some old guy in shorts grinding up against a cheerleader, singing about cars. I have no idea where that image came from, but that's what it was. But the movie really opened my eyes. I really loved it.

There were a lot of flaws, but Dano in particular was amazing. I think if people saw it they would connect with it. But maybe the hurdle was getting people interested in seeing it.

[Rentatris]

I'm pretty shocked it hasn't received any noms.

 Even looking at it objectively Dano for acting, sound mixing, costumes, editing. Real real strong suits even if the story doesn't resonate with you.


Surprised and disappointed

 

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Mad Max got 10 nominations and it came out in May, a month before L&M, so blaming release dates is lame.  I think the movie probably fails to make to make a strong enough connection for non-Beach Boys/Wilson afficionados and that is why it was shut out today. It's hard for people on this board (including myself) to watch this movie objectively, but I think we would mostly agree it certainly isn't a perfect work of art. The scenes of Pet Sounds being recorded are pure bliss for us, but not so much for others.

Another explanation might be that people just didn't watch it. The only reason I watched it was because of the interesting cover art (or whatever the term is) with the silhouette and the target. Brian Wilson/beach boys biopic would have sounded very unappealing to me.

At the risk of starting a 15 page argument: Before seeing love & mercy, my impression of the beach boys was of some old guy in shorts grinding up against a cheerleader, singing about cars. I have no idea where that image came from, but that's what it was. But the movie really opened my eyes. I really loved it.

There were a lot of flaws, but Dano in particular was amazing. I think if people saw it they would connect with it. But maybe the hurdle was getting people interested in seeing it.

This is not how the Oscars work. If the production company sent the movie in to be reviewed by the Academy committee then it would have been seen. It's not about whether or not the public watched it. Without checking, I'm sure even fewer people saw 45 Years than Love & Mercy and yet the wonderful Charlotte Rampling was nominated for Best Actress.