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For anyone interested in my work in helping to free Brian Wilson from the clutches of Eugene Landy, I have put together a summary of the work I did in helping Brian to cutoff his abusive relationship.The article, entitled Free Brian Wilson, may be found at my Reuminations blog at blogspot.com The address is: peternreum @blogspot.com
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Quote from: Peter Reum on January 08, 2016, 01:28:02 AM
For anyone interested in my work in helping to free Brian Wilson from the clutches of Eugene Landy, I have put together a summary of the work I did in helping Brian to cutoff his abusive relationship.The article, entitled Free Brian Wilson, may be found at my Reuminations blog at blogspot.com The address is: peternreum @blogspot.com
Did it again, Peter - that's your email addy. Still.
Seriously, Peter was a vital cog in the machine that helped liberate Brian. Anything he has to say is essential reading.
Edit: just read it. As Hemingway would phrase it, the true gen.
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What a heart-warming read, Peter. You saved Brian's life, period.
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I continued reading and eventually revisited your "search of the perfect record" article. Your first choice (they're in no particular order, but still) is one of mine, The Flamingos' astonishing "I Only Have Eyes For You". "Don't Worry, Baby" is another. It's hard to imagine a life without music.
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Re: New article on my part in helping Brian leave Eugene Landy
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Peter - ya know ya coulda just BEAT LANDY UP! Oops, wrong thread...
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Quote from: Peter Reum on January 08, 2016, 01:28:02 AM
For anyone interested in my work in helping to free Brian Wilson from the clutches of Eugene Landy, I have put together a summary of the work I did in helping Brian to cutoff his abusive relationship.The article, entitled Free Brian Wilson, may be found at my Reuminations blog at blogspot.com The address is: peternreum @blogspot.com
Love a guy who does his homework!
Going to the conference on the deleterious effects of early/mid gen of psychotropic drugs, prior to your under-the-radar assessment at the BB fan conference!
Thank you for your bold and brave initiative and role in the rescue mission.
And for finding that Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue tape, that helped Brian hold on in that dark hour. Brian's work, with Pet Sounds has done that for the whole world in an hour of darkness. You returned the favor in kind for us all.
Thanks again, Peter.
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Quote from: mtaber on January 08, 2016, 04:51:34 AM
Peter - ya know ya coulda just BEAT LANDY UP! Oops, wrong thread...
perfect!
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Thanks for sharing! Do you remember which version of Rhapsody in Blue you tracked down?
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Quote from: mtaber on January 08, 2016, 04:51:34 AM
Peter - ya know ya coulda just BEAT LANDY UP! Oops, wrong thread...
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Quote from: mtaber on January 08, 2016, 04:51:34 AM
Peter - ya know ya coulda just BEAT LANDY UP! Oops, wrong thread...
Be fair, Landy was sober, well, and capable of defending himself. It's only right and proper to beat up ill people, and only then if they're also intoxicated and you're bigger than them. And ideally either they'll be a pacifist or you'll bring your friend to help...
Yes, Peter's description here is of how people managed *effectively* to remove Brian from a damaging situation, without hurting *anyone*, and with genuine concern for Brian's wellbeing. This is (one reason) why Peter is such a respected figure.
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Quote from: mtaber on January 08, 2016, 04:51:34 AM
Peter - ya know ya coulda just BEAT LANDY UP! Oops, wrong thread...
Be fair, Landy was sober, well, and capable of defending himself. It's only right and proper to beat up ill people, and only then if they're also intoxicated and you're bigger than them. And ideally either they'll be a pacifist or you'll bring your friend to help...
Yes, Peter's description here is of how people managed *effectively* to remove Brian from a damaging situation, without hurting *anyone*, and with genuine concern for Brian's wellbeing. This is (one reason) why Peter is such a respected figure.
You partially joke, but you effectively point out the difference between respectable and contemptible.
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I found the cd version of the recording Brian wanted some years ago. It is by Stanley Black and the Royal Festival Orchestra, and also includes two other Gershwin compositions, An American in Paris, and the Porgy and Bess Suite.
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Peter, thank you for doing what you did for Brian along with the others.
When I watched the Love and Mercy Film Kevin Leslie appears concerned and tells Melinda that Gene doesn't know he's there. He also has a look on his face in the studio scene when he's standing next to Landy. The look is apologetic and sympathetic. At the time I wondered about his role with Brian and it got me thinking about the role those guys played in the whole sorry saga. Kevin's reaction in the film makes more sense after reading your article. Is it possible he passed the tapes on which helped to save Brian?
There was a link to a Facebook page on here not too long ago purporting to be Kevin's. I think many people assumed those guys were all like Landy but seeing the film and reading your article has made me reappraise their role.
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Quote from: mikeddonn on January 08, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
Peter, thank you for doing what you did for Brian along with the others.
When I watched the Love and Mercy Film Kevin Leslie appears concerned and tells Melinda that Gene doesn't know he's there. He also has a look on his face in the studio scene when he's standing next to Landy. The look is apologetic and sympathetic. At the time I wondered about his role with Brian and it got me thinking about the role those guys played in the whole sorry saga. Kevin's reaction in the film makes more sense after reading your article. Is it possible he passed the tapes on which helped to save Brian?
There was a link to a Facebook page on here not too long ago purporting to be Kevin's. I think many people assumed those guys were all like Landy but seeing the film and reading your article has made me reappraise their role.
In this interview (posted recently on another thread), Mark Linett distinguishes a bit between Kevin Leslie and
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http://www.examiner.com/article/examiner-exclusive-mark-linett-discusses-brian-wilson-s-1988-solo-album
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Quote from: mikeddonn on January 08, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
Peter, thank you for doing what you did for Brian along with the others.
When I watched the Love and Mercy Film Kevin Leslie appears concerned and tells Melinda that Gene doesn't know he's there. He also has a look on his face in the studio scene when he's standing next to Landy. The look is apologetic and sympathetic. At the time I wondered about his role with Brian and it got me thinking about the role those guys played in the whole sorry saga. Kevin's reaction in the film makes more sense after reading your article. Is it possible he passed the tapes on which helped to save Brian?
There was a link to a Facebook page on here not too long ago purporting to be Kevin's. I think many people assumed those guys were all like Landy but seeing the film and reading your article has made me reappraise their role.
In this interview (posted recently on another thread), Mark Linett distinguishes a bit between Kevin Leslie and Carl Dean.
eta - here's the link:
http://www.examiner.com/article/examiner-exclusive-mark-linett-discusses-brian-wilson-s-1988-solo-album
Yeah, Kevin Leslie is definitely the one that people seem to have thought was the worst. There's a lot of stuff in The Wilson Project about how Leslie was trying to learn how to engineer records, so that he, Brian, and Landy could work without any "outside interference", and he kept trying to take over the Usher/Wilson sessions...
(No knowledge about which "Surf Nazi" was passing information to Peter, I'm just talking about other publicly-available stuff).
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Quote from: Peter Reum on January 08, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
I found the cd version of the recording Brian wanted some years ago. It is by Stanley Black and the Royal Festival Orchestra, and also includes two other Gershwin compositions, An American in Paris, and the Porgy and Bess Suite.
Yes! I have that on CD, purchased probably summer of 1993 when we moved to Guam. I love the version of "I Loves You Porgy".
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Fascinating, much thanks for the insight.
I wonder what Landy's motivation was to have all of Brian's daily activities videotaped. I mean, did it NEVER dawn on Landy that they could one day be used against him? I guess Landy only thought they were a means of controlling Brian, making Brian afraid to break Landy's rules while being recorded doing so... but how truly weird is it that Landy - as conniving and crafty as he was - never realized that it's not good to do illegal things like fudge with medical prescriptions while being videotaped doing such? What a dummy.
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Peter - I've always wanted to hear the details of your role in getting Brian away from Landy and into appropriate support.
Thanks for doing that for Brian, or anyone else in need of help and for the continued support you provide to people who need it - Alan
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Fascinating, much thanks for the insight.
I wonder what Landy's motivation was to have all of Brian's daily activities videotaped. I mean, did it NEVER dawn on Landy that they could one day be used against him? I guess Landy only thought they were a means of controlling Brian, making Brian afraid to break Landy's rules while being recorded doing so... but how truly weird is it that Landy - as conniving and crafty as he was - never realized that it's not good to do illegal things like fudge with medical prescriptions while being videotaped doing such? What a dummy.
Thinking you're invulnerable is an aspect of grandiose narcissism.
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So I guess at least one of the 'surf nazi's' had some concern for Brian. All I can say is, Brian is really blessed to have fans like Peter that would help him like this.
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Quote from: Emily on January 08, 2016, 10:29:28 AM
Quote from: mikeddonn on January 08, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
Peter, thank you for doing what you did for Brian along with the others.
When I watched the Love and Mercy Film Kevin Leslie appears concerned and tells Melinda that Gene doesn't know he's there. He also has a look on his face in the studio scene when he's standing next to Landy. The look is apologetic and sympathetic. At the time I wondered about his role with Brian and it got me thinking about the role those guys played in the whole sorry saga. Kevin's reaction in the film makes more sense after reading your article. Is it possible he passed the tapes on which helped to save Brian?
There was a link to a Facebook page on here not too long ago purporting to be Kevin's. I think many people assumed those guys were all like Landy but seeing the film and reading your article has made me reappraise their role.
In this interview (posted recently on another thread), Mark Linett distinguishes a bit between Kevin Leslie and Carl Dean.
eta - here's the link:
http://www.examiner.com/article/examiner-exclusive-mark-linett-discusses-brian-wilson-s-1988-solo-album
Andy Dean...
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Quote from: Emily on January 08, 2016, 10:29:28 AM
Quote from: mikeddonn on January 08, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
Peter, thank you for doing what you did for Brian along with the others.
When I watched the Love and Mercy Film Kevin Leslie appears concerned and tells Melinda that Gene doesn't know he's there. He also has a look on his face in the studio scene when he's standing next to Landy. The look is apologetic and sympathetic. At the time I wondered about his role with Brian and it got me thinking about the role those guys played in the whole sorry saga. Kevin's reaction in the film makes more sense after reading your article. Is it possible he passed the tapes on which helped to save Brian?
There was a link to a Facebook page on here not too long ago purporting to be Kevin's. I think many people assumed those guys were all like Landy but seeing the film and reading your article has made me reappraise their role.
In this interview (posted recently on another thread), Mark Linett distinguishes a bit between Kevin Leslie and Carl Dean.
eta - here's the link:
http://www.examiner.com/article/examiner-exclusive-mark-linett-discusses-brian-wilson-s-1988-solo-album
Andy Dean...
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Quote from: Emily on January 08, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: CenturyDeprived on January 08, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Fascinating, much thanks for the insight.
I wonder what Landy's motivation was to have all of Brian's daily activities videotaped. I mean, did it NEVER dawn on Landy that they could one day be used against him? I guess Landy only thought they were a means of controlling Brian, making Brian afraid to break Landy's rules while being recorded doing so... but how truly weird is it that Landy - as conniving and crafty as he was - never realized that it's not good to do illegal things like fudge with medical prescriptions while being videotaped doing such? What a dummy.
Thinking you're invulnerable is an aspect of grandiose narcissism.
Yeah, look at Richard Nixon.
Peter, that was a great read and puts so much in context. You've done a great service to a lot of people. Thank you.
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Peter, thank you.
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Thank you Emily for the link to the interview with Mark Linett.
Still begs the question why the film makes the character of Kevin Leslie sympathetic and 'likeable'. There was also the dinner seen when Kevin and his GF leave Brian and Melinda alone. I thought Kevin would never do that. Maybe artistic license?
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Thank you Emily for the link to the interview with Mark Linett.
Still begs the question why the film makes the character of Kevin Leslie sympathetic and 'likeable'. There was also the dinner seen when Kevin and his GF leave Brian and Melinda alone. I thought Kevin would never do that. Maybe artistic license?
More likely because Leslie is still alive and they didn't want to risk a lawsuit. Though I have to say the character never came across as especially likeable in my viewing...
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