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Juice Brohnston
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You stumble upon a sandbox time machne, inside which, drawing a date in the sand immediately transports you to wherever Brian Wilson is on said date. What date do you choose?
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Dec 6, 1966. I'd act as intermediary between Van Dyke, Mike Love and Brian and not let the questioning of the lyrics lead to Brian's doubting the whole project. I'd preempt Mike's questioning of the lyrics by complimenting Brian and Mike on the lyrics and explaining what they meant before Van Dyke could even be called. I'd stay up several nights looking at the stars and playing ping pong with Brian and let him unload all of his plans for the Smile album, track sequence, The Elements, Heroes Parts 1 and 2, then go back to the group and Mike and Van Dyke and get everybody on board. The album would get finished and released and sell a million copies in January!
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A similar question and answer posed by Lewis Shiner in GLIMPSES.
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Which is well worth reading if you haven't, folks:
http://www.lewisshiner.com/liberation/glimpses.pdf
Also, I would've turned up at the BRI meeting for the licensing agreement and screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOooooooooooooooo!
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Birth, at which time I spirit him away from Murry Wilson into the arms of competent parents.
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Aug 62. I would try and explain Good Vibrations to him.
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
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I'd try to locate as many clips of Brian saying he wishes he never had taken drugs as possible and then go to the day before his first LSD trip. Maybe he wouldn't start hearing voices then - it would be worth a try. I bet he'd write California Girls anyway.
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Quote from: Micha on November 29, 2015, 10:24:52 PM
I'd try to locate as many clips of Brian saying he wishes he never had taken drugs as possible and then go to the day before his first LSD trip. Maybe he wouldn't start hearing voices then - it would be worth a try. I bet he'd write California Girls anyway.
I agree.
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I'd probably try to help him complete Smile, arriving a few days before the infamous "over and over the crow cries" -session and meeting Mike, Brian and VDP separately, and stressing how important it is that they finish Smile not later than January.
But then again, if that would mean we wouldn't have Smiley Smile, I'd be kicking myself to death once I got back. Or would I be able to return? If not, I'd enlist as the Boys' roadie and go off to see the world and the seventies with them. Oh the time I would be having.
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Smiley Smile sessions, 1967. Now that would be cool seeing all the leads through the house leading down into the Brian's home studio (Carl explained how that was the case in a interview once)....
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December 9, 1961 (if this be the day), when the Boys hear "Surfin'" played on KFWB. Because, according to Dennis, "Nothing will ever top the expression on Brian's face, ever..."
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The BRI meeting where the decision was made to bring back Landy, at which point I'd stand up and scream "Are you all out of your f****** minds ?" before explaining exactly why. Of course, we wouldn't have
Love and Mercy
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 01, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
The BRI meeting where the decision was made to bring back Landy, at which point I'd stand up and scream "Are you all out of your f****** minds ?" before explaining exactly why. Of course, we wouldn't have
Love and Mercy
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Good one. Wth?
Edited for clarity: ...were those people thinking?
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I'd love to go back to 1964 and see Brian, Mike, Al, Dennis, and Carl in concert in person.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 01, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
The BRI meeting where the decision was made to bring back Landy, at which point I'd stand up and scream "Are you all out of your f****** minds ?" before explaining exactly why. Of course, we wouldn't have
Love and Mercy
, but it's a small price to pay.
What was the alternative, though?
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Hmmm before I pick my date, let me consult the Badman book for absolute historical accuracy
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 01, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 01, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
The BRI meeting where the decision was made to bring back Landy, at which point I'd stand up and scream "Are you all out of your f****** minds ?" before explaining exactly why. Of course, we wouldn't have
Love and Mercy
, but it's a small price to pay.
What was the alternative, though?
Professionals with good reputations...not as "psychologist to the stars," that is.
My stepmother's family has a long history with schizophrenia and were working with some very good people by the seventies.
I understand that the Beach Boys are loath to work with professionals outside of the studio (band managers, financial managers, doctors, anyone?), but this seems like an area in which one might have made an effort to find a doctor with a serious reputation.
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If I could use it again (prob not), I'd go back to 1977 where The Beach Boys played Pine Knob, Clarkston MI on Aug 24 and the Performing Arts Center, Saratoga NY Aug 31st where Dennis performed songs from POB. According to AGD, them two BB US shows that year included a short set by Dennis performing songs from POB. Read this via his site ---
http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/gigs77.html
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 01, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 01, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
The BRI meeting where the decision was made to bring back Landy, at which point I'd stand up and scream "Are you all out of your f****** minds ?" before explaining exactly why. Of course, we wouldn't have
Love and Mercy
, but it's a small price to pay.
What was the alternative, though?
Almost anyone: the decision to rehire him seems to have been based on nothing more than "well, it worked once...".
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Let me slightly change mine. I would take the Good Vibrations single and play it for Brian in 62
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I'd go back to 1976 and visit a twelve-year-old Yorkshire lad who'd just been absolutely mesmerised by his first listen to Good Vibrations.
I'd advise him to enjoy the music but not get obsessed. Instead of spending all the money he'd earn from his paper round on LPs and 45s over the coming few years, invest it instead.
I'd tell him that when he attends the Kebworh Festival in four years time, be satisfied that he's seen a great band give a great performance and leave it that - the next 20 or 30 shows won't ever be quite the same, and will lack a little something - at least until 2012.
I'd warn him of the dangers to future social and family life posed by an obsession with the music produced by a bunch of men from the same country that gave us MacDonalds, the atomic bomb and Coca Cola.
And I'd point out to him that avoiding any such obsession might make him a rich man with diverse tastes, a decent home and a pension to look forward to.
And he'd probably reply "sod off old timer, don't tell ME what to listen to!"
Or more likely, "Sure, but have you heard how these bits of Heroes and Villains can be rearranged to sound like THIS…?"
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Quote from: ontor pertawst on November 28, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
Which is well worth reading if you haven't, folks:
http://www.lewisshiner.com/liberation/glimpses.pdf
Also, I would've turned up at the BRI meeting for the licensing agreement and screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOooooooooooooooo!
This novel 'glimpses' is available online and is great...feel like you're right there with 1966 Brian and entourage....highly recommend for all you sixties trippers.....
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Tarmac Incident?
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Early September 1977. The band had a huge bust up at a New Jersey airport and basically broke up for a short while. Unfortunately, for them, a reporter was present and spilled the beans.
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