1965 archives

[Douchepool]

As of now it's just online. Easy enough to burn a CD with your own artwork if you see fit. You'll need two discs.

[The Shift]

Assume though that hi-res downloads will appear on HDTracks and Pono etc before long? Haven't gone down the hi-res download road before but starting to think it's the way forward for releases such as this.

[Douchepool]

Something else of interest...

This release now proves that several of the tracks labeled as a "rehearsal" on the first SOT Live in Sacramento disc are actually rehearsals for these Chicago performances and not Sacramento as originally thought. Also add the first eight tracks of disc 3 of the SOT Live Box for the studio vocal repair tracks. If you're a nagging completist, add the previously released Chicago recordings to your set. You'll still need two discs.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

This is also available on Spotify.  Can't believe there's literally been no mention of it from the official channels.  I guess they really did spend all of their budget on Uncovered and Unplugged. 

[Douchepool]

Let's hope there'll be a release for the remaining '65 studio sessions.

[Rocker]

Has In The Back Of My Mind backing track been issued officially yet - I can't remember. For sure that's one of the finest backing tracks Brian ever made.

I totally agree! I could listen to the backing track for hours.
The only official release I could think of is the "Hawthorne, CA" compilation. But that has Dennis talking over the track

[Ram4]

This set doesn't interest me, but I'm still hoping for a 1965 studio release of additional Today and SDSN material.  Glad Capitol is putting things out like Chicago 1965 - it bodes well for other shows coming out in the future.  It's tough to wait, but you could almost expect them on schedule every year.  Sure hope some additional lost tapes from SMiLE and the rest of Wild Honey are found in time along with the vocal masters for Good Vibrations.

[Zesterz]

JOHN MANNING--  think I must have transferred Mike Loves Xmas single at same time.....!!!!

[pool_of_tears]

it would be nice to have this on cd, as I don't like mp3's

[The Shift]

JOHN MANNING--  think I must have transferred Mike Loves Xmas single at same time.....!!!!

Have yet to download that one… tonight's treat, me thinks

[Marty Castillo]

It's being released as a way to extend the copyrights on the recordings in the EU, where recordings would go into the public domain after fifty years.

I understand why they are released, for copyright extension, but what is the history with the Chicago 1965 show? Was it a scrapped live release? I understand the Sacramento 1964 show was ultimately used for Beach Boys Concert.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Correct: potential live album.

[Marty Castillo]

Correct: potential live album.

Thanks!

[Andrew G. Doe]

It's being released as a way to extend the copyrights on the recordings in the EU, where recordings would go into the public domain after fifty years.

I understand why they are released, for copyright extension, but what is the history with the Chicago 1965 show? Was it a scrapped live release? I understand the Sacramento 1964 show was ultimately used for Beach Boys Concert.

Sacramento 1963 as well as 1964.

[The Real Barnyard]

Does the release contain the entire shows or the shows minus what was already released?

Seems entire to me…

Runaway on MiC is from the second show, and that's on this set

409 on the Singles Collection is the dsame as this set (second show) but it seems not to have been performed at the first show – Eric's brilliant setlist site doesn't include these shows far as I can see so can't refer there for more data.

Has anything else from Chicago '65 been released prior to today's gift? I'm guessing these are complete shows, with nothing hidden!

I'm almost sure that Runaway on MiC is from the first show.

[The Real Barnyard]

Who sings the bridge on Surfer Girl in the first show?
Seems like it is Dennis.

[The Shift]

Does the release contain the entire shows or the shows minus what was already released?

Seems entire to me…

Runaway on MiC is from the second show, and that's on this set

409 on the Singles Collection is the dsame as this set (second show) but it seems not to have been performed at the first show – Eric's brilliant setlist site doesn't include these shows far as I can see so can't refer there for more data.

Has anything else from Chicago '65 been released prior to today's gift? I'm guessing these are complete shows, with nothing hidden!

I'm almost sure that Runaway on MiC is from the first show.

You're right!

[Rocker]

Who sings the bridge on Surfer Girl in the first show?
Seems like it is Dennis.

I haven't got the files yet. Guess I'm waiting 'til January. But re: Surfer Girl, at the Michigan show in '66 Dennis sang the bridge on one performance, Carl on the other (and blew it).
Japan '66 has also Dennis singing the bridge iirc

[Andrew G. Doe]

Listening as I type. First few songs of the first show - trainwreck. The sound man should have been hung up by his balls for (apparently) placing Denny's mike inside the bass drum. Gets sonically better during "SUSA" but guys... by now you should know the words to your own songs, huh ?

First show "SG" middle-eight is Dennis... like Mike says, right before he comes in.  

"Runaway" is Jardine clean !

[Matt Bielewicz]

Ah, knickers. Lee Dempsey's post on the 'future copyright extension set' thread (the 19th in that thread at the time of posting, and located here) makes me think a 1965 studio set is much less likely to be waiting ready to go before this year's end, sadly. I explain my reasoning in the post right under Lee's.

As I did there, I'm hoping here that I am spectacularly, stupendously, ignominiously incorrect in this assumption, and that something packed with the cream of the 1965 sessions, new mixes, acapellas and Stack-O-Track mixes, kitted out with a title appropriate to the year, will be downloading its way to my iPod within a couple of days. Given how uncertain I now feel about that happening, I think a good title would be 'And Your Dream Comes True '65'...

[Micha]

WTF - no Dance, Dance, Dance? That was a hit single just few months ago, and they play "Louie, Louie" instead? Probably left it off just to annoy me 50 years later.

[AndrewHickey]

WTF - no Dance, Dance, Dance? That was a hit single just few months ago, and they play "Louie, Louie" instead? Probably left it off just to annoy me 50 years later.

I suspect that was just to avoid having to change guitars -- Dance Dance Dance requires a twelve-string, and in a short set it was probably much easier to keep the same guitar throughout the show rather than swap for a single song.

[Andrew G. Doe]

WTF - no Dance, Dance, Dance? That was a hit single just few months ago, and they play "Louie, Louie" instead? Probably left it off just to annoy me 50 years later.

To which end it was entirely successful ! 

[Micha]

WTF - no Dance, Dance, Dance? That was a hit single just few months ago, and they play "Louie, Louie" instead? Probably left it off just to annoy me 50 years later.

I suspect that was just to avoid having to change guitars -- Dance Dance Dance requires a twelve-string, and in a short set it was probably much easier to keep the same guitar throughout the show rather than swap for a single song.

I respectfully disagree. First of all you can play DDd on a 6-string too, it'll just sound different. That's like claiming castagnets are required to do DDD. But even if a 12-string WAS required - I think on the sound samples I hear a 12-string throughout.

DDD is criminally neglected in live sets and releases. In fact the reason I didn't buy the 2012 live CD was because I was annoyed it was left off - it was rarely ever played on that tour. Having listened to the CD since, I don't regret not having bought it - terrible sound, stiff, without any exitement.

The sound samples of this Chicago concert release sound good, though.

[Ian]

Yeah the first show in Chicago had problems-You can't hear Dennis' vocals on Do You Wanna Dance and the entire band is terribly out of tune.  The band's backing vocals on "Little Honda" keep cutting out.  Brian forgets the words on Don't Worry Baby ("Carl what's the words?" and then apologizes in the middle of it "and I wrote the song too!!!")  But this was common at 60's shows-which is why most "live" albums of that time had to be overdubbed later (including the Beach Boys In Concert, Beatles at Shea Stadium-for TV release- and the Stones first live album (released only in the U.S.) Got Live If You Want It)