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« on: November 06, 2015, 08:28:32 AM »

http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/police-union-gives-ominous-threat-to-tarantino.html?mid=facebook_nymag

Why are government employees forming unions? Unions, as corporations, are protected from any possible threats to their continued existence by the government. Now a police union is threatening an individual (a rather sh*t filmmaker of late, though) because of his opposition to police brutality. I get it - not all cops are bad. The vast majority of them are decent folks trying to do their jobs. So why this response to a specific individual's protest against police brutality? Police brutality DOES exist and it knows no racial boundaries. If his comments are untrue, why make that response?
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 09:21:18 AM »

http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/police-union-gives-ominous-threat-to-tarantino.html?mid=facebook_nymag

Why are government employees forming unions? Unions, as corporations, are protected from any possible threats to their continued existence by the government. Now a police union is threatening an individual (a rather sh*t filmmaker of late, though) because of his opposition to police brutality. I get it - not all cops are bad. The vast majority of them are decent folks trying to do their jobs. So why this response to a specific individual's protest against police brutality? Police brutality DOES exist and it knows no racial boundaries. If his comments are untrue, why make that response?


Unions, have been around, starting in Europe (among some of them, were early union miners in France - a very dangerous occupation, even now) since the mid 1900's, are not corporations as they are governed by their members.  The Wagner Act in 1935 (National Labor Relations Board) gave workers the right to organize and bargain collectively for wages and working conditions.  The public sector unions became established with Civil Service.  There were organized postal workers in 1889.

The police have many members nationally who have every right to boycott and picket any movie of Tarantino.  I hope they do. There is a lot of disrespect for law enforcement (who aren't without their own internal problems, I will concede, but this whole movement against the police force who are our first line of defense in an emergency, with this campaign - "pigs in a blanket, fry-em like bacon" and encouraging the assassination of police officers, is beyond crossing the line, into an place of anarchy.  They are not without flaws and do updating of their working conditions, such as more video, to protect them as well as the arrestees.   

Yes, public sector employees can "bargain collectively" - for their members.  Even the men and women in blue. 

 
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015, 09:56:53 AM »

Unionized police wouldn't necessarily be an issue if the police were privatized. Of course, privatized police are a police union's worst nightmare because most of the "boys in blue" would end up without jobs due to sheer lack of aptitude. Anything public sector encourages waste, minimal (or no) results, and abuse. Public sector unions are little more than collective bargaining with the private sector's extorted money. The police are no different. I'm also not advocating the assassination of police officers. I'm also an anarcho-capitalist/market anarchist. The only people who want police to be assassinated are socialists and racists who think blacks are disproportionately targeted in cases of police aggression while not giving one shred of a damn about the violence among their own communities.

The first line of defense is the individual. The police can't be bothered until all the sh*t is said and done.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 10:19:55 AM »

Unionized police wouldn't necessarily be an issue if the police were privatized. Of course, privatized police are a police union's worst nightmare because most of the "boys in blue" would end up without jobs due to sheer lack of aptitude. Anything public sector encourages waste, minimal (or no) results, and abuse. Public sector unions are little more than collective bargaining with the private sector's extorted money. The police are no different. I'm also not advocating the assassination of police officers. I'm also an anarcho-capitalist/market anarchist. The only people who want police to be assassinated are socialists and racists who think blacks are disproportionately targeted in cases of police aggression while not giving one shred of a damn about the violence among their own communities.

The first line of defense is the individual. The police can't be bothered until all the sh*t is said and done.

While I agree with a lot of what you say, even if the cops were privatized, they would still have the right to organize for collective bargaining purposes.

Both private and public workers can organize for their members' working conditions and salaries.  That would not change if they were privatized.   Wink

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