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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2015, 03:18:56 AM »

Friends is one of my favourite BB albums. An album of pure bliss, just wonderful for the time.
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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2015, 03:25:45 AM »

My personal favorite and a very adventurous album in many ways. It's very obvious that Brian cared a lot about this one. To me it feels a bit like Smile part 2, the 'laid-back edition'.
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2015, 04:34:32 AM »

My personal favorite and a very adventurous album in many ways. It's very obvious that Brian cared a lot about this one. To me it feels a bit like Smile part 2, the 'laid-back edition'.

Yes I agree about the smile vibe. The production is really detailed, but subtly so. One of my faves by the band also. Can't understand those that decry Friends - arguably one of the more cohesive BB albums - and then go on about how great 20/20 is.
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2015, 05:04:58 AM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2015, 05:17:48 AM »

Brian's been doing a pretty good job keeping tracks from Friends in his setlists. 

I think he did Meant for You and the title track in the early 2000s.  Little Bird during the Beck tour.  Now, Wake the World and Busy Doin Nothing. 

Its a shame nothing from Friends cracked the setlist of the C50 tour. 
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2015, 06:50:27 AM »

I'm not sure the rest of the band loves that album. I know Bruce has criticized the album art more than a few times and in the 2nd "Brian Wilson Songwriter" DVDs, he dismisses the album as a whole.


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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2015, 07:26:47 AM »

I'm not sure the rest of the band loves that album. I know Bruce has criticized the album art more than a few times and in the 2nd "Brian Wilson Songwriter" DVDs, he dismisses the album as a whole.

It's strange how he dismisses Friends while Sunflower is his favorite. These two albums aren't THAT different after all.
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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2015, 07:27:45 AM »

I like to listen to "Friends" very early in the morning, shortly after sunrise. I'm hardly ever up that early, mind you... but when I am, I find it to be the perfect album to start the day with. And yes, it is better during the summer, but anytime of year is fine with me, even during the insanely harsh Syracuse winters! I love that album, from start to finish.

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It was light already, like you said, but there are still some "early morning" vibes.
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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2015, 07:34:49 AM »

I love the Friends album. While others may disagree, I think it's just as cohesive as Pet Sounds. I listened to the Friends album when I am stressed. It's just so soothing, and it sounds like the band was at peace, which it seems they were. Mike had just discovered the effects of meditation, Brian was feeling a bit better, Denny and Al were probably happy about being able to write more, and as for Carl and Bruce- how could you not be happy recording music like this???
The instrumentation is great. You've got ukuleles, organs, upright basses, and so much more.... Unlike Wild Honey's rocking, hard-hitting drums, the drumming on Friends is very tasteful. Did Denny play these drums? I know the WC was brought in for some tracks, but if it was indeed Dennis, it really shows how he grew as a drummer. As I said, the WC was brought in from time to time, but I think Friends really shows the bands progression as instrumentalists. Friends is a great album filled with honest, "slice of life" songs.
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« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2015, 08:02:16 AM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

The only possible exception I can think of is Holland. Yes, "Big Sur" was recorded in a previous version, but the album track was brand new.
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2015, 08:15:55 AM »

I'm not sure the rest of the band loves that album. I know Bruce has criticized the album art more than a few times and in the 2nd "Brian Wilson Songwriter" DVDs, he dismisses the album as a whole.

It's strange how he dismisses Friends while Sunflower is his favorite. These two albums aren't THAT different after all.

To my mind they are. If they were paintings, I'd say Friends was done in watercolours (or pastels) and Sunflower in oils (no pun intended).
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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2015, 09:59:47 AM »

Friends was the one weak BBs album in the 60s and their last official lp of the decade, Little bird was THE song on it in my opinion.

How was it their last official album of the decade?   
20/20 came out in '69, and that's an "official" album isn't it?

Either way though, Friends was/is really good, and so is 20/20 in it's own way.
I'd rather listen to those albums than, say, most anything after Holland.
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« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2015, 10:08:07 AM »

Friends was the one weak BBs album in the 60s and their last official lp of the decade, Little bird was THE song on it in my opinion.

How was it their last official album of the decade?   
20/20 came out in '69, and that's an "official" album isn't it?

Either way though, Friends was/is really good, and so is 20/20 in it's own way.
I'd rather listen to those albums than, say, most anything after Holland.


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« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2015, 10:18:44 AM »

I love Friends. I feel like it would be the last album for a long while where Brian was going for a "sound" for an entire record, if that makes any sense. As in, just as there is a Pet Sounds sound and a Smile sound, there is also a Friends sound. Maybe there's a Sunflower sound (less sure about that myself) and a Holland sound too but I don't think that Brian can take responsibility for it in those cases.
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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2015, 03:26:52 PM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

The only possible exception I can think of is Holland. Yes, "Big Sur" was recorded in a previous version, but the album track was brand new.

The original version, I'll give you... but the released version made partial use of a 1971 version of "Sail On, Sailor", according to SWD.
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« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2015, 03:39:11 PM »

A "chill out" album made about 30 years before the phrase was coined.  Special, unique, eccentric as f*ck - and I never go on holiday without it!  
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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2015, 06:22:14 PM »

As mentioned earlier, here's Bruce's assessment of the album from the Brian Wilson Songwriter DVD (extended interview):

https://youtu.be/7nZjikvKQSo?t=1m27s


BTW, he wasn't kind about the album cover either on the 30th Anniversary special.
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« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2015, 07:07:26 PM »

If Brian performed this in it's entirety, I'd probably use vacation time to follow the entire tour.

Friends and 20/20 are the two albums that got me into The Beach Boys. Friends may not be everyone's cup of tea but I think it is a very strong album.

Mine, too!
I did have Made In The USA and Pet Sounds on CD before that...and I still have the single I bought in 1981 of "Come Go With Me" and then my brother's 8 track tape of Best of The Beach Boys Vol. 2" but I didn't feel any need to go headlong into their catalog until I visited the all night WalMart store here in early 1993 when I was 23 and bought the two-fer of Friends/2020 just on a whim. I listened to it at 2 in the morning and I was so struck by the chords and harmonies...I HAD to have more.
The next day I went back out and bought the two-fer of Smiley Smile/Wild Honey.....
Let's just say that after becoming obsessed overnight with Friends/2020 and then hearing Smiley Smile I had the same knee jerk reaction that I had when I was 14 in 1984 and bought Todd Rundgren's "A Wizard A True Star" after buying "Hermit Of Mink Hollow" and Utopia's "Oblivion" and self-titled album from '82.
I hoped this experience with the Beach Boys/Brian would be similar to that of Todd...that is, giving me a musical education that felt like disappointment but gradually learning to worship those albums as well what originally intrigued me about the artists.
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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2015, 07:09:01 PM »

The man also thought a Disco version of Pipeline was a good idea as well as putting a jarring disco song thats over 10 minutes long on a "light album". I like Bruce and he's done some good stuff, is incredibly talented, but his ideas of good musical choices can be criticized  Grin..to put it mildly
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« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2015, 10:02:24 PM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

The only possible exception I can think of is Holland. Yes, "Big Sur" was recorded in a previous version, but the album track was brand new.

The original version, I'll give you... but the released version made partial use of a 1971 version of "Sail On, Sailor", according to SWD.

Ah, never heard that Desper said that before. I knew that the song had been woodshedded for a long time but didn't realize part of the track itself was already old. Thanks for the info, man.
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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2015, 10:35:10 PM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

The only possible exception I can think of is Holland. Yes, "Big Sur" was recorded in a previous version, but the album track was brand new.

The original version, I'll give you... but the released version made partial use of a 1971 version of "Sail On, Sailor", according to SWD.

Can we count "Little Bird" incorporating part of "Child Is Father Of The Man"?

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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2015, 11:37:30 PM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

The only possible exception I can think of is Holland. Yes, "Big Sur" was recorded in a previous version, but the album track was brand new.

The original version, I'll give you... but the released version made partial use of a 1971 version of "Sail On, Sailor", according to SWD.

Ah, never heard that Desper said that before. I knew that the song had been woodshedded for a long time but didn't realize part of the track itself was already old. Thanks for the info, man.

Now granted, I'm not in the best of moods right now, so my mind may be a bit fuzzy...but...did I just read that the Holland version of Big Sur used part of the 1971 version of Sail on Sailor?

Wow...that's pretty cool....
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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2015, 11:55:24 PM »

I like how he worked the dynamics on the album... in several parts they're trying to sing very soft and tender, it really shows off how their voices were so beautiful and didn't need all the power that had been so stunning on all their other stuff.  You can listen to "Little Bird" and how delicate Dennis sings, and then listen to something like "Girls on the Beach" and hear them at full swell, a completely different sound. 
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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2015, 12:45:28 AM »

I don't get it either, it seems to me that it's another one of Brian's eccentric masterpieces... hell it was recorded in his living room, right?  Doesn't get much cooler than that....

Partly... maybe half of it, or a tad more.

Speaking of BB tracks with significant amounts of home living room recording as part of the song... Were there any songs of that sort that were hits? Perhaps some of Do it Again? Or was living room recording the kiss of death commercial/sales-wise for the band? Not saying that there's necessarily any direct correlation, and I love homespun BB records, but there may be something to be said for the hits drying up once the pro studio sound changed.
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2015, 12:50:45 AM »

Friends is probably the last time the band released an album that didn't include tracks from the vault or recorded before the album sessions proper.

How about BB85?
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