The solid LPs vs the gap bridgers.

[kookadams]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

[Douchepool]

Well, that's just, like, your OPINION, man.

[joshferrell]

I don't think "Friends" is a weak album at all...

[Moon Dawg]

  WILD HONEY is one Beach Boys album I rarely listen to anymore. Once a favorite, now in some respects (to me) the least of the post PET SOUNDS albums on Capitol. Maybe I should listen again. I've noticed here and there it's often a favorite among rock critics who like but do not love The Beach Boys: Robert Christgau, Greil Marcus, maybe Dave Marsh. But who cares what Dave Marsh likes, LOL.

[SurferDownUnder]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

To be frank, all you ever seem to post is posts just like this....Always about pre-67 being good and everything else contemptible..... What points are you trying to establish? I know its your opinion man but gawd if we haven't heard it enough... 

[kookadams]

Ok instead of new threads ill just reply to ones someone else posted cuz apparently the piss poor elitism on here is key.

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

Summer Days is a stopgap. I know everyone else loves it and thinks it's one of their best, but it came out incredibly soon after Today and was a MASSIVE step down from that. Today into PS sounds and feels like a more natural and smooth evolution than Today into SD. SD saw a return to distracting filler, the rehash of Rhonda and the abandonment of Todays cohesive flow. Even if one likes it, it was almost certainly rushed and is as much of a hodgepodge as 20/20

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Ok instead of new threads ill just reply to ones someone else posted cuz apparently the piss poor elitism on here is key.

It's just hard to understand what you're saying and to what end, that's all. Nobody's putting you down for personal reasons

[joshferrell]

Party seems most like an album that is a gap but yet it doesn't fit...lol

[Andrew G. Doe]

Ok instead of new threads ill just reply to ones someone else posted cuz apparently the piss poor elitism on here is key.

Some decent punctuation and acceptable spelling & grammar would help your cause immeasurably, as would having a POV that varied somewhat (as noted below) from "pre-67 good/post-67 bad". Anyone who uses txt spk on a forum such as this is immediately consigned to my personal "not to be taken in any way seriously" file.

Plus, the last time the BB were a rock & roll band was... ummm... someone help me here ?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

Summer Days is a stopgap. I know everyone else loves it and thinks it's one of their best, but it came out incredibly soon after Today and was a MASSIVE step down from that. Today into PS sounds and feels like a more natural and smooth evolution than Today into SD. SD saw a return to distracting filler, the rehash of Rhonda and the abandonment of Todays cohesive flow. Even if one likes it, it was almost certainly rushed and is as much of a hodgepodge as 20/20

Have to agree - the album kinda peters out on side two and it seems like Brian was conducting an experiment along the lines of "what would it sound like if I unplugged the echo chamber ?". That said... oh ! Side one !!!

[alf wiedersehen]

Plus, the last time the BB were a rock & roll band was... ummm... someone help me here ?

The Beach Boys were a rock band man they rocked were rockin. America/US stopped being interested in rock music, just look at the charts after 1966. The UK was carrying the torch of rocknroll and they kept buying all the Beach Boys records, that's because they were still keeping the rock alive. Rock was dead in the US. None of the beatles albums after 1965 have any energy; they were a studio band. They didnt have any talent but George Martin kept them afloat with his goodness. The Beach Boys albums were better because the Beatles didn't have talent but George Martin did. Rock was dead in the US.

1973/Beach Boys were still rockin and makin good rockin. But 15 Big Ones was leftovers and demos and rerecordings of older songs and reinterpretations and leftovers. Love You is only a Beach Boys album in name,it's a Brian album in everything but name. It has the Beach Boys name on it. MIU and LA light album were leftovers and solo songs that were left over and they recorded other songs. The Beach Boys werent a real band anymore

[Mike's Beard]

Plus, the last time the BB were a rock & roll band was... ummm... someone help me here ?

The Beach Boys were a rock band man they rocked were rockin. America/US stopped being interested in rock music, just look at the charts after 1966. The UK was carrying the torch of rocknroll and they kept buying all the Beach Boys records, that's because they were still keeping the rock alive. Rock was dead in the US. None of the beatles albums after 1965 have any energy; they were a studio band. They didnt have any talent but George Martin kept them afloat with his goodness. The Beach Boys albums were better because the Beatles didn't have talent but George Martin did. Rock was dead in the US.

1973/Beach Boys were still rockin and makin good rockin. But 15 Big Ones was leftovers and demos and rerecordings of older songs and reinterpretations and leftovers. Love You is only a Beach Boys album in name,it's a Brian album in everything but name. It has the Beach Boys name on it. MIU and LA light album were leftovers and solo songs that were left over and they recorded other songs. The Beach Boys werent a real band anymore

Hey thank God The Ramones came along (honestly the fuckin' Ramones?) when they did.

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Plus, the last time the BB were a rock & roll band was... ummm... someone help me here ?

The Beach Boys were a rock band man they rocked were rockin. America/US stopped being interested in rock music, just look at the charts after 1966. The UK was carrying the torch of rocknroll and they kept buying all the Beach Boys records, that's because they were still keeping the rock alive. Rock was dead in the US. None of the beatles albums after 1965 have any energy; they were a studio band. They didnt have any talent but George Martin kept them afloat with his goodness. The Beach Boys albums were better because the Beatles didn't have talent but George Martin did. Rock was dead in the US.

1973/Beach Boys were still rockin and makin good rockin. But 15 Big Ones was leftovers and demos and rerecordings of older songs and reinterpretations and leftovers. Love You is only a Beach Boys album in name,it's a Brian album in everything but name. It has the Beach Boys name on it. MIU and LA light album were leftovers and solo songs that were left over and they recorded other songs. The Beach Boys werent a real band anymore

I agree the Beatles aren't nearly as talented as the accepted popular narrative would have you believe and George Martin
should get most of the credit. But their best albums came after '65. And I'm not sure what you mean by America didn't like rock music. If anything, America shifted towards a harder progressive rock/metal rock in '69 and the early seventies. The softer vocal/pop groups like the Beach Boys and Association are the ones that got left behind.

[Mike's Beard]

He's taking the piss out of Kook who lived through an alternative reality America, where nobody listened to rock music from the late 60s until The Ramones blundered along.

[Mike's Beard]

  WILD HONEY is one Beach Boys album I rarely listen to anymore. Once a favorite, now in some respects (to me) the least of the post PET SOUNDS albums on Capitol. Maybe I should listen again. I've noticed here and there it's often a favorite among rock critics who like but do not love The Beach Boys: Robert Christgau, Greil Marcus, maybe Dave Marsh. But who cares what Dave Marsh likes, LOL.

I'd say the best thing about the Wild Honey album is the lyrics (Mike was on a roll here). Clearly the overall production and the way the vocals were recorded are lacking.

[Moon Dawg]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

Summer Days is a stopgap. I know everyone else loves it and thinks it's one of their best, but it came out incredibly soon after Today and was a MASSIVE step down from that. Today into PS sounds and feels like a more natural and smooth evolution than Today into SD. SD saw a return to distracting filler, the rehash of Rhonda and the abandonment of Todays cohesive flow. Even if one likes it, it was almost certainly rushed and is as much of a hodgepodge as 20/20

  20/20 consisted of tracks recorded years apart, each cut having a different producer and composer. SUMMER DAYS was recorded in the spring of 65, written mostly by Brian and Mike, and produced by Brian. In no way is SUMMER DAYS "almost as much a hodgepodge as 20/20"

[Moon Dawg]

Starting with Surfer Girl the BBs put out a dozen albums to the end of the 60s, SG being their first solid one, I personally love Little Deuce Couple but its been considered an album that was rushed out being that four of the cuts were reissued, same w Shut Down vol2, but then we have All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Pet Sounds- ALL solid...Smiley Smile gets undermined cuz it wasn't was expected but its a good lp, same w Wild Honey. Then we have Friends, without Little bird its a weak lp...I love 20/20 even if its more of a collection than proper album; Sunflower shines due to Dennis's efforts which I think outshined Brian's but just the one time, Surfs Up & Holland are hit&miss but I think are good, not great but good. Not trying to be a "broken" record or use lazy grammar, just putting in perspective.

Summer Days is a stopgap. I know everyone else loves it and thinks it's one of their best, but it came out incredibly soon after Today and was a MASSIVE step down from that. Today into PS sounds and feels like a more natural and smooth evolution than Today into SD. SD saw a return to distracting filler, the rehash of Rhonda and the abandonment of Todays cohesive flow. Even if one likes it, it was almost certainly rushed and is as much of a hodgepodge as 20/20

Have to agree - the album kinda peters out on side two and it seems like Brian was conducting an experiment along the lines of "what would it sound like if I unplugged the echo chamber ?". That said... oh ! Side one !!!

  The only weak cut on side 2 is "Bugged/Old Man".

[Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll]

Plus, the last time the BB were a rock & roll band was... ummm... someone help me here ?

The Beach Boys were a rock band man they rocked were rockin. America/US stopped being interested in rock music, just look at the charts after 1966. The UK was carrying the torch of rocknroll and they kept buying all the Beach Boys records, that's because they were still keeping the rock alive. Rock was dead in the US. None of the beatles albums after 1965 have any energy; they were a studio band. They didnt have any talent but George Martin kept them afloat with his goodness. The Beach Boys albums were better because the Beatles didn't have talent but George Martin did. Rock was dead in the US.

1973/Beach Boys were still rockin and makin good rockin. But 15 Big Ones was leftovers and demos and rerecordings of older songs and reinterpretations and leftovers. Love You is only a Beach Boys album in name,it's a Brian album in everything but name. It has the Beach Boys name on it. MIU and LA light album were leftovers and solo songs that were left over and they recorded other songs. The Beach Boys werent a real band anymore

HODGEPODGE

[JK]

  WILD HONEY is one Beach Boys album I rarely listen to anymore. Once a favorite, now in some respects (to me) the least of the post PET SOUNDS albums on Capitol. Maybe I should listen again. I've noticed here and there it's often a favorite among rock critics who like but do not love The Beach Boys: Robert Christgau, Greil Marcus, maybe Dave Marsh. But who cares what Dave Marsh likes, LOL.

That's not a very kind thing to say about the man who wrote a book about "Louie Louie".

And yes-----maybe you should listen again to Wild Honey...

[phirnis]

Summer Days is one of the group's most consistent albums. Girl Don't Tell Me, HMR, CG, Let Him Run Wild (!), You're So Good to Me, Summer Means New Love... the amount of stone cold classics is outstanding! There are some typical album cuts too but most of them are very good anyway.

[CenturyDeprived]

I don't think "Friends" is a weak album at all...

+1. I never comprehend the mindset that this album is anything less than a relaxed, chilled-out masterpiece.

[ChicagoAnn]

Prior to Pet Sounds/Rubber Soul didn't most pop albums have a lot of filler? Even when I was a kid, 45s were the big sellers. People had stacks of them and fewer albums. In Chicago, we had WLS Silver Dollar Surveys we collected every week from the record stores.

So it seems a little anachronistic to apply later standards to early BB albums.

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Prior to Pet Sounds/Rubber Soul didn't most pop albums have a lot of filler? Even when I was a kid, 45s were the big sellers. People had stacks of them and fewer albums. In Chicago, we had WLS Silver Dollar Surveys we collected every week from the record stores.

So it seems a little anachronistic to apply later standards to early BB albums.

Today had no filler. The radio interview at the end I guess, but that was more of an epilogue. It's unintrusive and harmless. Then SD saw a return to the filler in a big way. So it's not anachronistic, it's indicitive of a regression after a previous breakthrough

[Douchepool]

Today had no filler. The radio interview at the end I guess, but that was more of an epilogue. It's unintrusive and harmless. Then SD saw a return to the filler in a big way. So it's not anachronistic, it's indicitive of a regression after a previous breakthrough

Today and Summer Days aren't full of filler by any means.

Sheesh, I'd love to know what versions of these albums you guys are all listening to. Friends without Little Bird is a weak LP? sh*t.