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...arrived today, like getting a timely and appropriate gift on Brian's birthday. I'm perfectly aware that many of you take issue with Denny Tedesco's misleading inferences or information concerning who played what and when on the Beach Boys tracks (and the whole Carol Kaye tango), but nevertheless I find this to be an extremely entertaining and informative rockdoc, and after seeing Love and Mercy, I'm sure there will be a resurgence of interest in the real Crew.
Best of all? The back cover says "6 hours of extras!" I love these oral histories and 60's studio sessions anecdotes, so that's a goldmine of riches for me.
I once posted my reaction to this film on this board after getting a bootleg from a friend years ago, but when I wrote to Denny and found out it was a work in progress seeking funding for the music rights, I sent him a check immediately, and then again on Kickstarter. Worth the investment and then some. Congrats to him on such a monumental task of fundraising and persistence of vision.
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But but but, they get too much credit!
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Who says they get too much credit?
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I agree. Three inches of DVD cover is too much credit. They should only get 2.75 inches.
Edit: Sometimes I just feel like being a butt.
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They were slouches, man. The Shaggs put down tighter tracks than those amateurs.
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on June 20, 2015, 07:13:38 PM
They were slouches, man. The Shaggs put down tighter tracks than those amateurs.
And the people said, "Amen."
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If Murry had discovered the Shaggs in 1969...not only would there have been world peace, but there would have been syncopation the likes of which Al Jardine would have been humbled by.
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on June 20, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
If Murry had discovered the Shaggs in 1969...not only would there have been world peace, but there would have been syncopation the likes of which Al Jardine would have been humbled by.
I have nothing more to add to this. This is just so awesome of a concept.
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June 20, 2015, 07:38:29 PM »
I can imagine the sessions now...
"Dot, syncopate a little. What are the words? Sing it!"
"My pal's name is Foot Foot-"
"Alright, sing it!"
"My pal's-"
"NO! My pal's name is Foot Foot, boo doo doo bah BAH dee dee dah dee DAH!"
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I have an essay in the works discussing the parenting of Murry and Austin Wiggen.
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Of course, the line "There was only one band behind them all!" is misleading & inaccurate, as well. On any given session it might be a totally different lineup of WC musicians than the next!
On one session, it might be:
Bill Pitman & Tommy Tedesco - Guitars
Ray Pohlman - Fender bass
Jimmy Bond - Upright bass
Leon Russell & Al de Lory - Keyboards
Hal Blaine - Drums
Frank Capp - Percussion
Steve Douglas & Jay Migliori - saxes
And on another, it might be:
Glen Campbell, Barney Kessel & Billy Strange - Guitars
Carol Kaye - Fender bass
Lyle Ritz - Upright bass
Don Randi & Larry Knechtel - Keyboards
Earl Palmer - Drums
Julius Wechter - Percussion
Plas Johnson & Jack Nimitz - Saxes
But, I understand the need for a pithy, eye-catching slogan!
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I am curious, is the DVD and or bluray region free?
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Quote from: c-man on June 21, 2015, 07:30:24 AM
Of course, the line "There was only one band behind them all!" is misleading & inaccurate, as well. On any given session it might be a totally different lineup of WC musicians than the next!
On one session, it might be:
Bill Pitman & Tommy Tedesco - Guitars
Ray Pohlman - Fender bass
Jimmy Bond - Upright bass
Leon Russell & Al de Lory - Keyboards
Hal Blaine - Drums
Frank Capp - Percussion
Steve Douglas & Jay Migliori - saxes
And on another, it might be:
Glen Campbell, Barney Kessel & Billy Strange - Guitars
Carol Kaye - Fender bass
Lyle Ritz - Upright bass
Don Randi & Larry Knechtel - Keyboards
Earl Palmer - Drums
Julius Wechter - Percussion
Plas Johnson & Jack Nimitz - Saxes
But, I understand the need for a pithy, eye-catching slogan!
And even then they were never a "band." They were session musicians given a blanket nickname by Hal Blaine.
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June 21, 2015, 12:28:59 PM »
How many Elvis sessions did the Wrecking Crew play on? I suspect very few.
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I'd have to find my copy of Ernst Jorgensen's book on Elvis' recording sessions but Elvis did record often in Hollywood and several times with members of the Wrecking Crew. The soundtrack to Blue Hawaii and the 1968 Timex TV special come to mind.
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June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM »
Watched disc 1 of the special features last night - really wonderful. Fleshed out a lot of the stories that only get a passing glance in the original. These people are just wonderful and Denny really did his homework, obviously, in seeking them out (Lalo Schifrin, for example!) And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
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for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
He also printed the name of every Donor and Kickstarter, and has a section called "Dedications" which allowed contributors who paid a little extra to dedicate a song to someone they love with a message - surprisingly touching.
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Quote from: PS on June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
full session credits
for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
Heven't seen it, so, are there quite a few BBs songs in the main body or just FFF? And, do the credits agree with what is stated on this board for each song?
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Quote from: PS on June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
full session credits
for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
Given they're on the AFM contract, that's to be expected. The question must be posed, has he used the correct AFMs and not - as he did on the website for over three years - something the band had no part of.
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I noticed that they seemed to put Brian Wilson on a different level than anyone else! That's expected in a Beach Boys or Brian Wilson doc, but to hear them say it on this was awesome!
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Got my Kickstarter DVD today! Life is good.
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I've got a question for PS - sometime early this year, this was said in another Wrecking Crew thread:
Quote from: coco1997 on March 04, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
Nice footage of Brian and the boys in the studio (not sure if it was previously seen or not)
He was not sure, but since you have it arrived & watched it, can you tell whether it's a GV video we've seen already or sth. totally new?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 21, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: PS on June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
full session credits
for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
Given they're on the AFM contract, that's to be expected. The question must be posed, has he used the correct AFMs and not - as he did on the website for over three years - something the band had no part of.
So Brian and Dennis
aren't
? They're on the AFM contract, too...and more importantly, they're definitely playing on the track, as well!
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Quote from: c-man on June 28, 2015, 08:07:10 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 21, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: PS on June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
full session credits
for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
Given they're on the AFM contract, that's to be expected. The question must be posed, has he used the correct AFMs and not - as he did on the website for over three years - something the band had no part of.
So Brian and Dennis
aren't
? They're on the AFM contract, too...and more importantly, they're definitely playing on the track, as well!
Details Details. Actual facts diffuse with the narrative of the WC replacing the BB's on all beloved big hits, even though the BB's actually played instruments on the majority of them...which is a fact BTW, break down the top 40 BB's hits and it's factual that they played the core instruments on more of them than they didn't.
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Yes, I was happy to see many important performances and the musicians who did them, such as the guitar intro on "Let's get it on." I was disappointed that Nokie did not play the 50 theme song; he could have, and sometimes it was just disappointing to see the urge for studio perfection justify the illusion of artistry. I respect all these musicians, but ultimately I do NOT like the ultimate effect of the film on the perception of the BB. The overall impression the casual viewer would get is that the BB are the early Monkees--totally unfair to Dave, Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, and Bruce--Mike's cool sax as well I suppose. Remember, these studios pros, as far as I know, never created songs, however many parts they invented. They chose to be hired guns, and they were paid well. If they wanted to be rock and roll stars, they should have gone through all the creative and interpersonal hell that bands go through. On the Professor's big list of historical injustices, the WC not getting enough credit is ranked low.
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Quote from: c-man on June 28, 2015, 08:07:10 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 21, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: PS on June 21, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
And you might be happy to know that Mr. Tedesco includes the
full session credits
for every song credited in the main body of the film, as a distinct part of the extras - including, I might add, the Beach Boys' songs, with Carl and Al listed as playing on Fun, Fun, Fun, etc.
Given they're on the AFM contract, that's to be expected. The question must be posed, has he used the correct AFMs and not - as he did on the website for over three years - something the band had no part of.
So Brian and Dennis
aren't
? They're on the AFM contract, too...and more importantly, they're definitely playing on the track, as well!
Details Details. Actual facts diffuse with the narrative of the WC replacing the BB's on all beloved big hits, even though the BB's actually played instruments on the majority of them...which is a fact BTW, break down the top 40 BB's hits and it's factual that they played the core instruments on more of them than they didn't.
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Altho I definitely get your point, it's a TAD unfair to such excellent musicians who indeed had huge roles in creating many of those songs they played on, coming up with parts, adding their own flourishes. Lots of those songs definitely weren't meticulously scored out in detail. They did some stellar work and should be celebrated as well -- The Beach Boys are in no danger of losing any credibility due to doffing our caps at these great talents. Altho yes, it's annoying to be tarred with an early Monkees brush, certainly!
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