Love and Mercy and myth?

[drbeachboy]

He was one of the original mods here, and I think he works for Capitol, or BRI, or somebody now. I took his place when he stepped down.

whatever. he should be using his own name

Set an example, Mr Chris Bgas!

Not til I get Honored Guest status

You should get that status just for your Beach Boys collectibles, alone. Does anyone here have a bigger collection than you?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

He was one of the original mods here, and I think he works for Capitol, or BRI, or somebody now. I took his place when he stepped down.

whatever. he should be using his own name

Set an example, Mr Chris Bgas!

Not til I get Honored Guest status

You should get that status just for your Beach Boys collectibles, alone. Does anyone here have a bigger collection than you?

I think 'BrianWilson2015' might

[bgas]

Time to flash the billy signal!

Last time I flashed anything, I ended up detained.

That's weird, I thought that was you on the news

[The Shift]

He was one of the original mods here, and I think he works for Capitol, or BRI, or somebody now. I took his place when he stepped down.

whatever. he should be using his own name

Set an example, Mr Chris Bgas!

Not til I get Honored Guest status

You should get that status just for your Beach Boys collectibles, alone. Does anyone here have a bigger collection than you?

I think 'BrianWilson2015' might

Size isn't important… or so  I'm reassuringly assured… probably.

[Cam Mott]

"aeijtzsche" was assistant to Alan Boyd for a while, right?

[donald]

Listen it NPR Fresh Air today, Thursday, for interview on the L&M movie screenwriter Moverman along with re plays of previous BWs fresh air interviews.    good POV discussion from the writer mixed with Landy era interview.

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Hi everybody.

Aeijtzsche here.  

I suppose I owe 3 explanations:

1.  I was given honored guest status presumably because of my involvement with Alan Boyd, and the related work I've done with the BBs archives.  I'm happy to be not-honored, if somebody feels like I don't deserve it.  I have not done any direct work for the band in many years.

2.  I haven't posted much because I've been busy.  (Law school, etc.)  But start a thread about studios and recording and you'll lure me out.

3.  My full name, which I also am perfectly happy to use as my screen name, is Joshilyn Hoisington.  And, despite what most of you probably thought, myself included for a while, my profile is currently accurate, gender-wise.  

[drbeachboy]

Hi everybody.

Aeijtzsche here.  

I suppose I owe 3 explanations:

1.  I was given honored guest status presumably because of my involvement with Alan Boyd, and the related work I've done with the BBs archives.  I'm happy to be not-honored, if somebody feels like I don't deserve it.  I have not done any direct work for the band in many years.

2.  I haven't posted much because I've been busy.  (Law school, etc.)  But start a thread about studios and recording and you'll lure me out.

3.  My full name, which I also am perfectly happy to use as my screen name, is Joshilyn Hoisington.  And, despite what most of you probably thought, myself included for a while, my profile is currently accurate, gender-wise.  

I have no issues with your Honored Guest status. I only used your name as an example, is all.

[puni puni]

Murry not liking God Only Knows is ridiculous as well. In 1966 it was more lifestyle than music that split him and Brian. If you get ahold of the few interviews he gave with Rolling Stone or NME the guy LOVED Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. He hurt Brian many times, but he respected when the Beach Boys matured musically.

Just heard Oren Moverman comment on the scene in the recent NPR interview. He said that he had heard numerous stories where Brian would play songs for Murry only to be met with fierce disapproval. Seems like one of those things where, if it weren't true, they would have been weeded out by Brian or Melinda.

[Cam Mott]

On the other hand Murry is quoted as saying: “ 'Pet Sounds' is a masterpiece of accomplishment for Brian.  The public doesn’t realize it, most of them.  But Brian took the Masters, a lot of the Masters, approached the music in his own way and put a Rock and Roll beat to it.”

[ontor pertawst]

Sure, to a reporter. I don't recall him every being particularly abusive to them.

[guitarfool2002]

Mike (Eder) only commented on Murry and GOK, is there something which shows he was inaccurate about Murry and GOK?

Good Vibrations too, Cam. Suggested Murry LOVED it.

Murry not liking God Only Knows is ridiculous as well. In 1966 it was more lifestyle than music that split him and Brian. If you get ahold of the few interviews he gave with Rolling Stone or NME the guy LOVED Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. He hurt Brian many times, but he respected when the Beach Boys matured musically. 

Exhibit A:

[Cam Mott]

But the comments referred to that is in the movie are about GOK right?

Is that Murry "not liking" GV or Murry sayings "kids" won't like it? I also remember someone saying Murry worried that kids wouldn't be able to dance to the slow part of GV.  Does anyone know the Murry interview(s) Mike is referencing?

[puni puni]

Like I already said, BW is quick to defend Murry, so it seems odd that he'd skip numerous opportunities to "correct" that part of the script if it weren't true. Then again, when asked whether Bill Camp did a good job, BW only says that Camp captured Murry's authoritarianism, as opposed to simply stating "very factual/letter-perfect" as he has done with every other actor and actress.

[Cam Mott]

I look forward to seeing the movie.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I look forward to seeing the movie.

Cam, that's a very contentious statement - what do you really mean by "look", "forward" and "seeing" ?

Is that a "probably" or a "hell, yes" ?

[Cam Mott]

(giggle)

[marcusb]

I look forward to seeing the movie.

Cam, that's a very contentious statement - what do you really mean by "look", "forward" and "seeing" ?

Is that a "probably" or a "hell, yes" ?

Rising above or becoming one with?

[Ray Lawlor]

I'll tell you one thing which I haven't even touched on in any writings on the film I've done so far. The set design, the staging, and everyone responsible for the props, design, and "look" of the film in my eyes deserves the highest praise if not an official award for their work.

Yes, I'm trying to put a positive thing in this thread and get people smiling and happy about something. And I know there are threads for reviews...

I'm a studio guy, a guitar geek, and a history buff, I look for the visuals and the props and the little touches on the sets of TV shows and films. I'm a music and history nerd and a studio/gear geek, a deadly and expensive combination.

Darian and Mark respectively did amazing work on the studio scenes. Everything from the period-correct instruments, to recreating a 1966 control room and studio setting down to the patch cables and tape boxes and talkback mic...it was spot-fucking-on. Brilliant work. And having the studio musician actors actually playing the parts when the camera is on the studio floor...what a great touch. And it worked brilliantly in the film. When the camera zoomed in on the song being recorded on the floor, you heard it being played on the floor by real musicians playing the "right" instruments. You had the guitarists playing Fenders who played Fenders in the 60's on these dates. That stuff is priceless. It'sn the stuff to *enjoy*.

I like focusing on *that* and enjoying *that* with fellow music nerds and fans instead of worrying about Murry blankety-blank Wilson's opinion of songs, but that's just me.

A Danelectro Bellzouki. If you haven't seen the film, you won't know what that means but for the few seconds it's on the screen, it's magic for nerds and geeks like me.  

And...historically accurate.

I agree.  You could not ask for two better guys to handle the studio scenes. Mark owns so much of that original equipment and did an incredible job staging it. Darian is simply brilliant in his musical knowledge; watching those studio scenes is like being in a time machine ; I love the fact that the bulk of the dialogue is pulled directly from the session tapes , adding to the authenticity. And yeah, that Danelectro Bellzouki slayed me as well !

[ontor pertawst]

Let's face it, those scenes were basically porn for studio freaks and vintage instrument buffs. What an eye for detail they had! You pick out more on a repeat viewing, if anybody involved with the production is monitoring: ALLLLL DELETED SCENES PLEASE.

[guitarfool2002]

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16097.msg452846.html#msg452846


Speaking of the studio scenes and possible outtakes/unused footage that *could* be included on the bonus DVD kind of stuff...

Going back just over a year ago to the discussions linked above about the film, and the still photo from the set.

I honestly cannot remember - Was the instrumental "Pet Sounds" session included in the studio scenes in the film?

Because that little challenge I posted last June, now with the film out it all gets revealed. That was the current chart given to the musicians/actors playing the session musicians in the film as they played the arrangements "live" for the studio floor scenes in the film. That still photo happened to catch the bass chart for Pet Sounds (the title track) as it was being played and filmed that day. Someone in the original thread mentioned if the chart were accurate to the time it was actually done, it may have had a title "Run James Run", which is true, but now with the film released it shows how Darian as musical supervisor and whoever copied the charts must have staged the live studio performances. So capturing the accuracy of the title on that chart wasn't important because the chart itself was not featured in the film. But everyone knows what they were recording and reading as "Pet Sounds", hence the sheet music on the stand.

So again, I seriously cannot remember: Is there even a brief snippet showing the recording of this track in the film? If not, this may be one of those outtakes that we may hopefully see and hear on a future DVD release.

[bgas]

Yes, it's played. unless I was hallucinating

[Paul J B]

Yes it was played.

Sadly, all I can think of now when I see that image is "ditz". 

[sea of tunes]

Yes it was played.

Sadly, all I can think of now when I see that image is "ditz". 

And the only word that comes to mind for me now is "bimbo".   

[bullman]

Hey'all...
I actually loved the movie. My daughter brought me for my Father's Day gift.
There were many totally "believable" moments, and others that had a more manufactured feel,...but so glad I saw it.
Some guy on the radio said it was only playing in 450 houses in the world and drying up fast.
Those of you who haven't seen it, need to,..go....IMO

T