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« on: June 22, 2006, 10:37:33 AM »

where do they connect?
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2006, 10:39:29 AM »

The only group I know that seems to have all of those influnces connected in a cool way is a band called The Shins. I strongly recomend the "Oh Inverted World" album  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2006, 10:47:48 AM »

thank you
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2006, 10:49:03 AM »

No problem. The album before is a fine example also.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2006, 11:53:18 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2006, 04:36:43 PM »

What's baroque pop anyway?

I'd say its; Descending minor melodies on a backdrop of cembalo, pipeorgan and/or strings.

Examples of good music falling into this category

                 ABBA-One Of Us
                 ABBA-The Day Before You Came
                 BB-Wonderful
                 BB-Surfs Up
                 John Cale-You're A Ghost
                 Shangri Las-Past, Present and Future
                 Roy Wood-My Dear Elaine
                 Cheap Trick-Heaven Tonight
                 Janis Ian-Society's Child

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2006, 05:05:37 PM »

While defining pop music into subgenres sometimes gets out of hand, here's what allmusic says baroque pop is.

"Baroque Pop emerged during the mid-'60s, a time when artists including the Left Banke, the Beach Boys, producer Phil Spector, and composer/arranger Burt Bacharach began infusing rock & roll with elements of classical music, achieving a majestic orchestral sound far removed from rock's wild, primitive origins. Layered harmonies, strings, and horns are all hallmarks of baroque pop, as is the music's dramatic intensity. At the time of its inception, it was rock's most mature outgrowth to date, and its spirit lives on in everything from the Philly soul sound of the early '70s to the like-minded chamber pop sound of the mid-'90s."

As for the Shins, I don't think I'd call them baroque pop. I do love them, though.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 10:36:22 PM »

is Nilsson's 1941 Baroque pop? is there anything else of his that's considered?
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2006, 10:40:42 PM »

You cant have this topic, bring up the shins, and not mention elephant 6
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2006, 06:53:13 AM »

can someone tell me what of Brian wilson, phil spector, and burt bacharach is considered baroque pop?
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2006, 07:53:34 AM »

Pet Sounds?   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2006, 11:26:50 AM »

The Left Banke's "Pretty Ballerina" defines Baroque Pop. There, definition given.

Lot's of interesting musical bits, some more advanced than Pet Sounds (  Shocked it is possible) and some interesting instruments.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2006, 01:08:36 PM »

Phil's Righteous Brothers stuff I would consider baroque pop, as well as some of his Ronettes stuff (Walking in the Rain, Paradise).  Pet Sounds certainly. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2006, 06:58:37 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2006, 07:22:24 PM »

The Left Banke's "Pretty Ballerina" defines Baroque Pop. There, definition given.

Too bad their catalog is out of print. Only way I can listen to Left Banke songs is on the downloads they have on their official website. I though Rhino or somebody had remastered the catalog, but guess not. Wasn't Andrew Sandoval supposed to have been involved?

http://www.leftbanke.nu/

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2006, 04:49:16 AM »

There is a 1992 PolyGram release called "There's Gonna Be a Storm, The Complete Recordings 1966-1969."  26 tracks. I have it. Found it in a store.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2006, 10:00:13 AM »

Yeah, that was released in 1992 and it's selling on amazon for 87 bucks and up. A little pricey for something that will probably be remastered and sold for 12 bucks in a year or two.
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2006, 10:18:24 AM »

I think I bought it for about $10 a year or two ago. It was just sitting there in our local indie record shop. God bless decent record stores.
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