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« on: May 19, 2015, 02:42:14 PM »

I've been debating with a fellow BB nerd and he claims "Al may be a great singer, but he can barely play guitar! When he does, he's barely even audible in the mix, like the Concert album!"
I reply with, "Al is usually low in the mix, but I have heard guys on Smiley Smile praise him as a lead guitarist when playing with his Endless Summer band."

I honestly think Al is a pretty good guitarist. He may not be as good as Carl Wilson or Blondie Chaplin, but he can sure play.

My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 02:59:00 PM »

Dunno, but I certainly saw him play the guitar solo in "Dance, Dance, Dance" during a BW show.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 03:34:34 PM »

There some videos on You Tube with Al playing acoustic guitar and singing along to some Beach Boys classics. I thought he was good. As far as lead electric guitar, I don't know of too many on stage.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 03:50:13 PM »

Al would commonly play lead guitar on Sail On Sailor when it came back into the setlists in the mid-1990s and again when he went on tour with his own group.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 03:50:31 PM »

I've always thought he was a good solid rhythm guitarist.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 05:40:47 PM »

Al would commonly play lead guitar on Sail On Sailor when it came back into the setlists in the mid-1990s and again when he went on tour with his own group.

Check out the "Doin' It Again" performance of SOS from 2012...Jeff, Dave and Al take turns at the leads. I believe Al plays the final one.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 05:48:17 PM »


My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpy4NfDQjio#t=2m50s
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 06:18:17 PM »

Did Al or Carl ever attempt to play any of the more 80s-souding guitar solos in a live setting (which are natively found on their 80s studio catalog, played by studio musicians)?
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 06:24:30 PM »


My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpy4NfDQjio#t=2m50s

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That clip never fails to make me laugh.  Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 07:18:02 PM »


My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpy4NfDQjio#t=2m50s

Oh wow, thanks!
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 07:20:14 PM »

If you can' t play it with your teeth are you really a serious guitarist?  I mean seriously!!!
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 07:52:51 PM »

Al is almost as good a guitarist as he is a dentist.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 07:54:50 PM »

I  always thought Al was a much more gifted guitar player than myKe luHv. He could sing better, 2.   Razz
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 09:23:15 PM »


My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpy4NfDQjio#t=2m50s

Oh wow, thanks!
When I was much younger I used to confuse that era Al with Will Millar of The Irish Rovers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOtUP7iU6wE
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 11:32:15 PM »

We could always assume he never picks up the guitar at home and just hasn't practised or improved the years. Not really likely, though, is it?
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2015, 03:37:48 AM »

The latest issue of Guitar World magazine has a feature article on Al. In the interview, Al describes the chops of Carl, Ed Carter, Brian's band, and the Wrecking Crew. He says "someone told me Hal Blaine considers me the best rhythm guitarist. I said, 'Is he crazy?' (laughs) There are so many better players than me. But there's a trick to good rhythm guitar, so I take that as high praise."
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 03:40:11 AM »

Did Al or Carl ever attempt to play any of the more 80s-souding guitar solos in a live setting (which are natively found on their 80s studio catalog, played by studio musicians)?

Carl certainly did ("Still Cruisin'", for instance), but they used Eddie Carter for some ("Somewhere Near Japan", "Summer In Paradise").
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 03:45:14 AM »

Did Al or Carl ever attempt to play any of the more 80s-souding guitar solos in a live setting (which are natively found on their 80s studio catalog, played by studio musicians)?

Carl certainly did ("Still Cruisin'", for instance), but they used Eddie Carter for some ("Somewhere Near Japan", "Summer In Paradise").

During the early 90s they had an extra guy come on stage and add the licks to Under the Boardwalk. Who was he?
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 03:48:10 AM »

The latest issue of Guitar World magazine has a feature article on Al. In the interview, Al describes the chops of Carl, Ed Carter, Brian's band, and the Wrecking Crew. He says "someone told me Hal Blaine considers me the best rhythm guitarist. I said, 'Is he crazy?' (laughs) There are so many better players than me. But there's a trick to good rhythm guitar, so I take that as high praise."

I always thought that praise was addressed at Carl. Nevertheless, among the guys Alan is probably the one who could play more stringed instruments (still does), and he's solid enough as a rhythm guy. He chooses some cool voicings too.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2015, 07:56:53 AM »


My main question is- does anyone have any videos of Al Jardine playing lead guitar? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpy4NfDQjio#t=2m50s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2015, 08:32:29 AM »

I’ve talked about this before in past threads. Al has rarely been able to demonstrate on stage over the years much elaborate guitar playing. He would probably be the first to admit he never a big lead player, especially doing improvisational stuff (e.g. that awesome train wreck “American Bandstand” jam).

But he’s a solid player, and much better than he has usually displayed on stage over the years at BB concerts, especially by the 80’s and 90’s when the shows were often rather rote. But I’ve seen him live on his own doing some nice guitar work. As I’ve mentioned numerous times before, I saw him solo at a little charity gig in 2005 (no Matt or other normal backline guys), and he was doing he lead guitar parts on stuff like “409” and “Fun Fun Fun.” As others have mentioned, since at least the 90’s he has seemed to enjoy doing the little guitar riffs during “Sail on Sailor.”


Let us not forget as well that he did some solid bass work on some early BB tracks as well.

I think most of these guys including Al have a lot of music sort of built in; they were born with some innate musicality. So I liken it a bit to what Eric Clapton said one time about George Harrison in an interview. I’m very much paraphrasing, but Clapton essentially said that Harrison could have been a more epic guitar player on the order of some of the flashy guitar players of the day, but he chose not to because he was into other stuff. I think that’s true a bit about Al. Not that he could (or would, or would want to) be a “shredder” or anything. But he’s a better musician than he  usually gets to display, and probably could be even better if not for the fact that he, like the other guys, have always placed vocals first.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 08:49:46 AM »

I’ve talked about this before in past threads. Al has rarely been able to demonstrate on stage over the years much elaborate guitar playing. He would probably be the first to admit he never a big lead player, especially doing improvisational stuff (e.g. that awesome train wreck “American Bandstand” jam).

But he’s a solid player, and much better than he has usually displayed on stage over the years at BB concerts, especially by the 80’s and 90’s when the shows were often rather rote. But I’ve seen him live on his own doing some nice guitar work. As I’ve mentioned numerous times before, I saw him solo at a little charity gig in 2005 (no Matt or other normal backline guys), and he was doing he lead guitar parts on stuff like “409” and “Fun Fun Fun.” As others have mentioned, since at least the 90’s he has seemed to enjoy doing the little guitar riffs during “Sail on Sailor.”


Let us not forget as well that he did some solid bass work on some early BB tracks as well.

I think most of these guys including Al have a lot of music sort of built in; they were born with some innate musicality. So I liken it a bit to what Eric Clapton said one time about George Harrison in an interview. I’m very much paraphrasing, but Clapton essentially said that Harrison could have been a more epic guitar player on the order of some of the flashy guitar players of the day, but he chose not to because he was into other stuff. I think that’s true a bit about Al. Not that he could (or would, or would want to) be a “shredder” or anything. But he’s a better musician than he  usually gets to display, and probably could be even better if not for the fact that he, like the other guys, have always placed vocals first.


I'd love to hear Al playing through some boutique guitar effects pedals like Death By Audio's Supersonic Fuzz Gun and Echo Dream Delay. He needs to get his dreamy fuzz on Smiley

What guitar effects pedals have Al, Carl, and Dave used over the years? And during what eras?
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015, 08:53:33 AM »

Al can play guitar. That's a known fact, I suppose. He is a solid rhythm player, I'll give him that.
But I can think of multiple instances since the 80's where his guitar has been inaudible on stage. I remember him saying he did this because he was such a "perfectionist".
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »

Not going into the discussion (although it is a very interesting topic), just advising you to listen to the '66 live medley on "Endless harmony" during Surfin' USA's solo. You hear almost only Al's guitar as Carl's was almost inaudible (and from other performances it seems that Carl's guitar never was that loud on stage).
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2015, 12:13:56 PM »

Does Al play the guitar on the acoustic solo version of California?
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