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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2015, 10:50:54 AM »

The reason we have problems with crime is because people are not taught to be respectful of others. Oh, and the anti-gun propaganda just makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes.
I have agree there. As a friend once said to me "Laws are for the law-abiding".
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2015, 11:06:55 AM »

The progressives clearly value criminals over law-abiding individuals since their policies empower criminals. Only a fool would argue otherwise; as we all know, progressives are fools.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »

The progressives clearly value criminals over law-abiding individuals since their policies empower criminals. Only a fool would argue otherwise; as we all know, progressives are fools.

In Sweden politicians give ISIS fighters returning to Sweden free apartments in Stockholm and jobs. I am kidding you not. Anyone else have to wait for 10-15 years for an apartment or buy one for a whole lot of money.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2015, 11:40:47 AM »

Multicultural Sweden. Don't you love being treated like a second-class citizen in your own land?
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2015, 11:48:01 AM »

The cultural marxists ruling Sweden will totally ruin this once great country before long. We are talking 10 - 15 years. I am already looking at countries where I can flee.
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2015, 11:51:09 AM »

You're a racist for wanting to leave. Let's just get that out there now. Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2015, 11:55:44 AM »

The progressives clearly value criminals over law-abiding individuals since their policies empower criminals. Only a fool would argue otherwise; as we all know, progressives are fools.

This is especially true in my hometown of Baltimore.  When riots broke out over the death of career criminal Freddie Gray while being arrested, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake gave the order to the police to stand down and, this is a direct quote, "allow space to destroy" adding it's only property.  Almost 200 police officers were hurt during the riots largely due to the fact that they were not permitted to defend themselves against rioters who were throwing rocks and bricks at them. 

Since the riots, Baltimore has experienced our deadliest month in almost 20 years.  And things are only going to get worse if the charges of the six police officers charged with Gray's death are dropped.  And the charges likely will, and should, be dropped. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2015, 11:58:15 AM »

In Sweden our Police use so called "dialogue police officers". Instead of actually arresting violent criminals they talk to them. That's all they do. People don't get arrested for rioting. Works wonderfully well. NOT. A progressive riot below:

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2015, 12:36:40 PM »

Look at all the angry socialists...they don't like what socialism has wrought upon Sweden, so they demand more socialism. Fucking retards, the lot of 'em.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2015, 12:52:12 PM »

Not to digress from the topic... but what the heck...

1. Some crime will always exist.  Mental illness and things of that sort -- evil, for example -- exist just fine on their own.

2. Next comes morality and the lack there of.  This used to come from religion and family.  Enforced by society, education, entertainment.  But those institutions have been eroded.  Infiltrated with self-gratification, no consequences.

3.  Then comes common sense.  Without this, you can wave bye-bye to peaceful civilization.  This too is being questioned.  Little basic things, like kids taught not to keep score.  Boys being boys.  Girls being girls.  Relationships.  Nature.  Right and wrong -- all of it is questioned and seen as judgmental.  So common sense is no longer as common as it used to be.  People don't trust themselves.  And they go see a therapist.  Or they're feed therapy from the above and eroded institutions.


But most of all.  It's liberalism.  I know I sound like a broken record on this  angel  but where Liberalism Reigns... you got crime.  Liberals, leftist, Statist.  Commu-Crats.  Leftists aren't responsible for the first item, but they excuse it and own 2 and 3.

They do this, in short, to control the voters and win -- election after election.  ***cough*** Baltimore ***cough***
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2015, 01:00:02 PM »

Look at all the angry socialists...they don't like what socialism has wrought upon Sweden, so they demand more socialism. Fucking retards, the lot of 'em.

Yes.  Bingo.  Baltimore.  The system, keeps them down, so they demand... (i bet you can't guess).  More of the system.


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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2015, 01:02:19 PM »

Not to digress from the topic... but what the heck...

1. Some crime will always exist.  Mental illness and things of that sort -- evil, for example -- exist just fine on their own.

2. Next comes morality and the lack there of.  This used to come from religion and family.  Enforced by society, education, entertainment.  But those institutions have been eroded.  Infiltrated with self-gratification, no consequences.

3.  Then comes common sense.  Without this, you can wave bye-bye to peaceful civilization.  This too is being questioned.  Little basic things, like kids taught not to keep score.  Boys being boys.  Girls being girls.  Relationships.  Nature.  Right and wrong -- all of it is questioned and seen as judgmental.  So common sense is no longer as common as it used to be.  People don't trust themselves.  And they go see a therapist.  Or they're feed therapy from the above and eroded institutions.


But most of all.  It's liberalism.  I know I sound like a broken record on this  angel  but where Liberalism Reigns... you got crime.  Liberals, leftist, Statist.  Commu-Crats.  Leftists aren't responsible for the first item, but they excuse it and own 2 and 3.

They do this, in short, to control the voters and win -- election after election.  ***cough*** Baltimore ***cough***

You hit the nail on the head.  Baltimore has been run into the ground by liberal rule, and it's hitting rock bottom.

The previous Democrat governor did such a poor job that even those on the left voted for a Republican Governor to avoid having Maryland run by one of Martin O Malley's minions.  

And that same Martin O Malley who ran Maryland into the ground, turned a fiscal surplus into a deficit, raised taxes across the board, and even taxed the rain is announcing that he's seeking nomination for President of the United States.  
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2015, 01:30:04 PM »

Maybe it's time for libertarians to start practicing voter intimidation. It's clearly all dandy when the liberals do it, so all's fair, right?
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2015, 01:35:45 PM »

Maybe it's time for libertarians to start practicing voter intimidation. It's clearly all dandy when the liberals do it, so all's fair, right?

Voter intimidation is not needed. Libertarians can vote multiple times each, like... progressives.

And I am not saying the Republicans don't rig their primaries, they do. Their 2012 primaries were blatantly rigged.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2015, 01:38:53 PM »

The Republicans are just the socially conservative liberals. Smiley

And yes, the 2012 primaries were blatantly rigged. You'd think that if they were going to rig the primaries they'd rig them in favor of someone who could actually win elections.
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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2015, 03:06:16 PM »

All the unjustified killings in the world don't change the belief that state-approved killings are also wrong, fair trial or not.

Fair trial!!?! Since when!?!  LOL LOL LOL  Besides... who needs a fair trial anyway?!  "Fair trial"... that's a good one!!

Does your morality/reasoning also apply to a baby in the womb?  The State approves killing these babies -- for any reason (Mom's tired, Dad's a d-ck, too poor, too uneducated, too black -- too drunk).  Trial, schmial.  Kill it!

Too many poor in the ghetto??? -- F-CK IT!!! -- build a "Planned Parenthood" clinic!!  That's about as evil as it gets -- no matter which planet you're from.  People are so chickensh-t about having a firm morality/reasoning on this -- for reasons I will never understand.  This is the easy stuff in my book.

So any concern of Dzhohskxara's sentence, trial or whatever -- is hilarious to me.  Drop a safe on him -- who the f-ck cares!!!!???!!!  Unless you're a super-Christian (you're not, are you?) concern here is either a lie or some new form of ill-humanity that I've yet to categorize.

Also... state-approved killings are not "wrong" (see: War).  Let's not get all thinky.  Killing bad-guys is a necessary and unfortunate aspect of keeping society safe.  And enemy combatants who kill are signing up for it.  And they know that.  Any different a response gives them pause.  And the ones of the "one-off radical" variety -- like the turkey we have here -- should be sent through on a conveyor belt.  On slow.

Me personally? -- I'm opposed to the death penalty.  But... then again... azzhat-terrorists and serial killers like this sh-tface make me think differently.  Cuz I'm NORMAL.

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As for the rest, I'm reminded that some time ago, I had decided discussions with you about anything resembling politics weren't useful: you treat discussion as browbeating lecture where everything is either right (your team) or some combination of evil and ignorant (everyone else), so it's really neither productive nor fun. So I'm not responding to the rest of your post. If you want to have a civil and respectful conversation, I'm in. Though I'll warn you, it might "get all thinky." Reply if you'd like, but I'm done with the thread, so I won't be reading it.
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2015, 07:28:56 PM »

All the unjustified killings in the world don't change the belief that state-approved killings are also wrong, fair trial or not.

Fair trial!!?! Since when!?!  LOL LOL LOL  Besides... who needs a fair trial anyway?!  "Fair trial"... that's a good one!!

Does your morality/reasoning also apply to a baby in the womb?  The State approves killing these babies -- for any reason (Mom's tired, Dad's a d-ck, too poor, too uneducated, too black -- too drunk).  Trial, schmial.  Kill it!

Too many poor in the ghetto??? -- F-CK IT!!! -- build a "Planned Parenthood" clinic!!  That's about as evil as it gets -- no matter which planet you're from.  People are so chickensh-t about having a firm morality/reasoning on this -- for reasons I will never understand.  This is the easy stuff in my book.

So any concern of Dzhohskxara's sentence, trial or whatever -- is hilarious to me.  Drop a safe on him -- who the f-ck cares!!!!???!!!  Unless you're a super-Christian (you're not, are you?) concern here is either a lie or some new form of ill-humanity that I've yet to categorize.

Also... state-approved killings are not "wrong" (see: War).  Let's not get all thinky.  Killing bad-guys is a necessary and unfortunate aspect of keeping society safe.  And enemy combatants who kill are signing up for it.  And they know that.  Any different a response gives them pause.  And the ones of the "one-off radical" variety -- like the turkey we have here -- should be sent through on a conveyor belt.  On slow.

Me personally? -- I'm opposed to the death penalty.  But... then again... azzhat-terrorists and serial killers like this sh-tface make me think differently.  Cuz I'm NORMAL.

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As for the rest, I'm reminded that some time ago, I had decided discussions with you about anything resembling politics weren't useful: you treat discussion as browbeating lecture where everything is either right (your team) or some combination of evil and ignorant (everyone else), so it's really neither productive nor fun. So I'm not responding to the rest of your post. If you want to have a civil and respectful conversation, I'm in. Though I'll warn you, it might "get all thinky." Reply if you'd like, but I'm done with the thread, so I won't be reading it.
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2015, 07:47:20 PM »

The Republicans are just the socially conservative liberals. Smiley

And yes, the 2012 primaries were blatantly rigged. You'd think that if they were going to rig the primaries they'd rig them in favor of someone who could actually win elections.

Republicans are going the way of the Whigs.  And they know it.  They've been sabotaging Conservative and Libertarian candidates (and now Tea Party candidates) at every turn, for years.  They're useless at best, aiding the Left at worst.
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2015, 07:53:07 PM »

Not to digress from the topic... but what the heck...

1. Some crime will always exist.  Mental illness and things of that sort -- evil, for example -- exist just fine on their own.

2. Next comes morality and the lack there of.  This used to come from religion and family.  Enforced by society, education, entertainment.  But those institutions have been eroded.  Infiltrated with self-gratification, no consequences.

3.  Then comes common sense.  Without this, you can wave bye-bye to peaceful civilization.  This too is being questioned.  Little basic things, like kids taught not to keep score.  Boys being boys.  Girls being girls.  Relationships.  Nature.  Right and wrong -- all of it is questioned and seen as judgmental.  So common sense is no longer as common as it used to be.  People don't trust themselves.  And they go see a therapist.  Or they're feed therapy from the above and eroded institutions.


But most of all.  It's liberalism.  I know I sound like a broken record on this  angel  but where Liberalism Reigns... you got crime.  Liberals, leftist, Statist.  Commu-Crats.  Leftists aren't responsible for the first item, but they excuse it and own 2 and 3.

They do this, in short, to control the voters and win -- election after election.  ***cough*** Baltimore ***cough***

You hit the nail on the head.  Baltimore has been run into the ground by liberal rule, and it's hitting rock bottom.

The previous Democrat governor did such a poor job that even those on the left voted for a Republican Governor to avoid having Maryland run by one of Martin O Malley's minions.  

And that same Martin O Malley who ran Maryland into the ground, turned a fiscal surplus into a deficit, raised taxes across the board, and even taxed the rain is announcing that he's seeking nomination for President of the United States.  

Funny* thing about Baltimore -- there's been like 20 or 30 or 50 murders since they locked up the cops that killed poor Freddie Gray.  Don't tell the Mayor... but I think they clearly arrested the wrong cops!!!   LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL





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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2015, 07:59:08 PM »

Well, to be fair, the Tea Party has already been hijacked by the leftist neoconservatives.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2015, 05:18:47 AM »

Bean Bag,

There's a theory that the Baltimore Police aren't policing the troubled areas of the city since they're clearly not wanted there.  Also, since they get no support from the Mayor or the Police Commissioner, why would they want to put their lives at risk by going into these areas?

It's going to get worse before it gets better, and as a property owner in Baltimore City, all I can do is watch as my property taxes increase while my property value decreases.
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« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2015, 08:35:11 PM »

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There's a theory that the Baltimore Police aren't policing the troubled areas of the city since they're clearly not wanted there.  Also, since they get no support from the Mayor or the Police Commissioner, why would they want to put their lives at risk by going into these areas?

It's going to get worse before it gets better, and as a property owner in Baltimore City, all I can do is watch as my property taxes increase while my property value decreases.

Exactly right.  The police have been knee-capped.  I've worked in bad places run by political-liberal sh-tfaces, and it's bad.  I mean bad -- you ain't sh-t, you're expendable.  An awful work environment for any human being -- people literally afraid to do anything.  But there wasn't nearly the occupational pressure that a cop sees.

So it's bizzarro world -- upside down land -- in America right now.  An unnecessary waste of human energy and ingenuity.  Instead of inventing to increase human satisfaction, we have to stop and pretend the cops are the crime problem -- just so some evil politician f-ckface Democrap can get re-elected and eat Kobe beef at Michelle's dinner-party -- while she feeds our school children, Grade-F funk meat.

Elect a Demorat = Black CVS will burn*.  Fck the left.




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Man, we are so off-topic!!  LOL  Fck it, I love the sandbox.  Almost as much as I love the pre-manufactured "community organizer" signs.  LOL LOL LOL LOL



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« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2015, 06:39:24 AM »

Things could get a little crazy again tomorrow in Baltimore. 

There's a march planned by the supporters of career criminal Freddie Gray. 

There's also a march planned by the supporters of the Baltimore Six, the six police officers who were arraigned for doing their job in a city that supports criminals over law. 

So, I'll be avoiding downtown Baltimore tomorrow. 
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« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2015, 07:26:06 AM »

A friend of mine and I were discussing this issue in Baltimore and I brought up the "why are they destroying their own city" point. He put it simply (paraphrasing) "they don't own much of anything in the city and aren't given much of an opportunity to better themselves anyway, so they have nothing to lose." This brings up an interesting point. No, I don't think black people are lawless (despite grumblings from some of my libertarian friends) but in the more liberal parts of the country they're used, exploited, and otherwise cajoled for political gain. Luckily, more and more people of all walks of life are waking up to the progressive liberal race-baiting propaganda machine and they can understand it's not "black vs. white" but rather "us vs. them." White people are not keeping black people down; the state is.

And as much as many might hate to admit it, this country edges further and further towards being a totalitarian police state. The government has power unlike any it has wielded before, police in many areas are (legitimately) out of control, and we have a populace more worried about people defacing flags than people being brutalized by the same government they want to punish people for defacing their precious flags. The American people have some soul-searching to do. Eight years of compassionate conservatism divided the country. Eight years of hope and change drove a wedge. Of course, I have little faith in the feels-based thinking of the American voter, which is probably why we'll be stuck with eight years of "what difference does it make?"
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