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« on: May 12, 2015, 05:58:07 PM »

Would 1989's album Still Crusin' have been an even bigger success if it had contained all-new/recent material?

Which songs would you replace the three 60's tracks with?
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 06:11:26 PM »

Maybe…
California Dreamin
Rock N Roll To The Rescue
Love And Mercy (Why not, it's a BW classic)
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 06:26:01 PM »

This is the best I can do, it's actually alright...

1. Still Crusin'
2. Somewhere Near Japan
3. Island Girl
4. In My Car
5. Kokomo
6. Wipe Out
7. Make It Big
8. Happy Endings
9. California Dreamin'
10. Rock'N'Roll To The Rescue

-Bonus Tracks-

11. Problem Child
12. Crocodile Rock
13. Don't Fight The Sea

Is DFTS from this era?
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 07:29:52 PM »

I'd go with

1. Still Cruisin'
2. SNJ
3. Island Girl
4. In My Car
5. Kokomo
6. Wipe Out
7. Make it Big
8. Melt Away
9. California Dreamin
10. L&M (With the Boys on bv)
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 07:37:57 PM »

I'd keep the seven originals from the album and add in Rock and Roll to the Rescue, California Dreamin', and Happy Endings (I'd add Chasin' the Sky but it might be a bit far back...unless we're going for a Keepin' the Summer Alive-esque hodgepodge with five-plus year old tracks). I couldn't imagine taking anything from Brian's first LP. Maybe I'd add The Spirit of Rock and Roll or Let's Do It Again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 11:28:11 PM »

It would have done better if it had come out while Kokomo was on the charts. Dump the oldies and include a few of the recent singles; or at least some recent live versions of the classics. "Chasin' the Sky", "Happy Endings", "Lady Liberty"...
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2015, 05:27:29 AM »

I think without the oldies, Still Cruisin would receive more recognition as an actual Beach Boys album instead of the cash grab / compilation that it really is. 

Maybe one day, it'll be re-released with more tracks from that era, but I'm not holding my breath.  Especially since the main reason the album was released in the first place was to capitalize on the success of Kokomo.  And Kokomo is available on just about every BB greatest hits compilation to be released since. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2015, 05:43:15 AM »

This is the best I can do, it's actually alright...

1. Still Crusin'
2. Somewhere Near Japan
3. Island Girl
4. In My Car
5. Kokomo
6. Wipe Out
7. Make It Big
8. Happy Endings
9. California Dreamin'
10. Rock'N'Roll To The Rescue

-Bonus Tracks-

11. Problem Child
12. Crocodile Rock
13. Don't Fight The Sea

Is DFTS from this era?

I think the group began recording Don't Fight The Sea sometime in the 70's, but it wasn't actually finished, until Alan polished it up for his solo album in 2010. The group probably could've finished it in the late 80's around the time of Still Cruisin', but I think it works better as a solo Al Jardine song. It kind've reminds me of Al's Lookin' At Tomorrow from the Surf's Up album.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2015, 07:01:55 AM »

The band did considerable work on Don't Fight the Sea in the late 1980s; apparently that's when Brian, Carl, and Bruce's vocals were recorded. Michael's were recorded on tour (I think Scott Totten mentioned that but I'm not sure) and Al must have recorded the vocal new for the album. It doesn't sound like his late 80s voice.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2015, 09:52:26 AM »

It would have been a better album absolutely.  I'm not sure how much more it would have sold, though.  It sold completely on the back of Kokomo's success and of its presence on that album, it was absolutely huge at that time.  To be honest, for the casual fan the ability to get Kokomo and 3 classics on the same album may have been a bigger sales draw. Additionally, I don't think you could have had a stronger single than SNJ, which did not garner any success (although had that been the first single, rather than Still Cruisin', with the stronger corporate push...)
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2015, 07:10:50 PM »

10. L&M (With the Boys on bv)

Does such a thing exist studio or live or is it a fantasy?
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 07:17:13 PM »

It would have been a better album absolutely.  I'm not sure how much more it would have sold, though.  It sold completely on the back of Kokomo's success and of its presence on that album, it was absolutely huge at that time.  To be honest, for the casual fan the ability to get Kokomo and 3 classics on the same album may have been a bigger sales draw. Additionally, I don't think you could have had a stronger single than SNJ, which did not garner any success (although had that been the first single, rather than Still Cruisin', with the stronger corporate push...)

Wipeout would have to be dropped too. I actually like The Fat Boys, I owned their album Crushin' when I was a kid - but that track doesn't belong on anything masquerading as a proper BB album.

That's the thing: is Still Crusin' masquerading as a proper album? It almost wants to be (even though it's a comp), it's sorta almost in that 20/20 type of mode (80s style), but then it abandons that idea and goes off a cliff entirely with Wipeout and the oldies. So, so, so odd.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 07:25:45 PM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2015, 07:30:21 PM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.

AGD did his best to give diplomatic, not overly gushing, but still praiseworthy liner notes to the KTSA/BB85 2-fer. It would be amazing to see someone pull that off for the  Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2-fer. I like a chunk of the songs on both albums as guilty pleasures, but to publicly in liner notes write good stuff about SIP would be challenging (and humorous to read) at best.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2015, 08:34:28 AM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.

AGD did his best to give diplomatic, not overly gushing, but still praiseworthy liner notes to the KTSA/BB85 2-fer. It would be amazing to see someone pull that off for the  Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2-fer. I like a chunk of the songs on both albums as guilty pleasures, but to publicly in liner notes write good stuff about SIP would be challenging (and humorous to read) at best.

The author would simply have to spend the bulk of the space praising Carl's vocals, as well as...well, Al's vocals.
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2015, 08:34:55 AM »

10. L&M (With the Boys on bv)

Does such a thing exist studio or live or is it a fantasy?

Fantasy
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2015, 12:05:31 PM »

Question...would it have sold better with all new material?
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2015, 12:39:49 PM »

Question...would it have sold better with all new material?

see reply # 9.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2015, 12:44:50 PM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.

AGD did his best to give diplomatic, not overly gushing, but still praiseworthy liner notes to the KTSA/BB85 2-fer. It would be amazing to see someone pull that off for the  Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2-fer. I like a chunk of the songs on both albums as guilty pleasures, but to publicly in liner notes write good stuff about SIP would be challenging (and humorous to read) at best.

You don't have to offer critiques of songs, good or bad, to write informative liner notes.

If BRI ever wants someone to write the Still Crusin' / SIP notes, I officially volunteer my services.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2015, 12:51:11 PM »

I can't wait to hear your liner notes on "summer of love" Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2015, 01:54:37 PM »

I would just write about its origins with the "Mike Come Back to L.A." chant, moving to "Some of Your Love" and then the present song. I'd point out that BW attempted a rap song at roughly the same time, and that the group had experimented with the form alongside the Fat Boys. Add in the connection to the Simpsons, and you have a perfectly interesting little nugget, without a word on the quality (or lack of same) in the song.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2015, 02:04:20 PM »

For sure, it's definitely possible to write about an album or track without critiquing it. The Gary Usher book is one of the most fascinating out there, and the music they did during that time is pretty weak.

Some interesting stuff was going down in the late 80's and early 90's. Some good liner notes could easily be written.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2015, 02:11:23 PM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.

AGD did his best to give diplomatic, not overly gushing, but still praiseworthy liner notes to the KTSA/BB85 2-fer. It would be amazing to see someone pull that off for the  Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2-fer. I like a chunk of the songs on both albums as guilty pleasures, but to publicly in liner notes write good stuff about SIP would be challenging (and humorous to read) at best.

The author would simply have to spend the bulk of the space praising Carl's vocals, as well as...well, Al's vocals.

This is very true. Carl is so ridiculously out of sight awesome, vocally speaking, on all of his stuff from the 80s/early 90s, even the biggest turds are elevated sooo much with his voice. Al too.

I wonder; could Kokomo have been the hit it was with anyone else singing the Carl parts? I think it's one of Mike's best leads, but Carl really brings it over the top. Would it have hit #1 with a 1988 Al, Bruce, or Brian singing the Carl parts? I'm not sure it would have.
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2015, 02:44:47 PM »

Add Spirit of RNR too.

Still waiting for Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2fer.

AGD did his best to give diplomatic, not overly gushing, but still praiseworthy liner notes to the KTSA/BB85 2-fer. It would be amazing to see someone pull that off for the  Still Cruisin/Summer in Paradise 2-fer. I like a chunk of the songs on both albums as guilty pleasures, but to publicly in liner notes write good stuff about SIP would be challenging (and humorous to read) at best.

The author would simply have to spend the bulk of the space praising Carl's vocals, as well as...well, Al's vocals.

This is very true. Carl is so ridiculously out of sight awesome, vocally speaking, on all of his stuff from the 80s/early 90s, even the biggest turds are elevated sooo much with his voice. Al too.

I wonder; could Kokomo have been the hit it was with anyone else singing the Carl parts? I think it's one of Mike's best leads, but Carl really brings it over the top. Would it have hit #1 with a 1988 Al, Bruce, or Brian singing the Carl parts? I'm not sure it would have.

I doubt it.  Carl's vocal is so strong on the chorus chant (Aruba, Jamaica) as well. He's just all over that song.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2015, 02:45:35 PM »

I would just write about its origins with the "Mike Come Back to L.A." chant, moving to "Some of Your Love" and then the present song. I'd point out that BW attempted a rap song at roughly the same time, and that the group had experimented with the form alongside the Fat Boys. Add in the connection to the Simpsons, and you have a perfectly interesting little nugget, without a word on the quality (or lack of same) in the song.

I'd buy it.
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