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« Reply #425 on: November 21, 2015, 10:57:46 AM »

He sure did.
That's awesome.
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« Reply #426 on: November 21, 2015, 03:48:08 PM »

I saw Cruz on an episode of Louder with Crowder last night. He's not Rand Paul but a close second. His taste in music is good as well.

I got a big kick out of him saying that his favorite film is The Princess Bride.

A little dorky but, really sweet that he likes the Princess Bride...he sounds like a romantic...It is very disarming. 

There are so many candidates that it is hard to get to know what their positions are. 



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« Reply #427 on: November 21, 2015, 09:08:41 PM »

There are so many candidates that it is hard to get to know what their positions are. 

Yeah, if only there was a way to access sites which gave you information about all of the candidates.

Shoot...


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« Reply #428 on: January 30, 2016, 11:32:20 AM »

So, how do we feel about Trump's plan for a universal health care system
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« Reply #429 on: January 30, 2016, 11:37:34 AM »

So, how do we feel about Trump's plan for a universal health care system
Every cloud has a silver lining.
He's a demagogue so he found support by people who love demagogues and don't really think about whether his philosophy or goals align with the ones their last favorite demagogue supported.

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« Reply #430 on: January 30, 2016, 01:04:19 PM »

A dimestore demagogue at that. This is a celebrity running for president. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #431 on: January 30, 2016, 01:12:11 PM »

A dimestore demagogue at that. This is a celebrity running for president. Roll Eyes

Well, it worked for Ronald Reagan.

And don't forget what my home state did with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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« Reply #432 on: January 30, 2016, 01:19:21 PM »

Reagan didn't make the direct leap of celebrity to presidential candidate, though. He got involved in politics as a corporate speaker, then obviously was a two-term governor in California.

A Trump presidency would be unprecedented, unless I'm mistaken: he'd be the only president ever to have no previous political or military experience. Hopefully Americans aren't stupid enough to vote for him.
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« Reply #433 on: January 30, 2016, 01:28:08 PM »

Reagan didn't make the direct leap of celebrity to presidential candidate, though. He got involved in politics as a corporate speaker, then obviously was a two-term governor in California.

A Trump presidency would be unprecedented, unless I'm mistaken: he'd be the only president ever to have no previous political or military experience. Hopefully Americans aren't stupid enough to vote for him.

That is true, captain, but he came into office after a similar weak presidency with Carter and having multiple American hostages.  

Reagan did get involved in the system before running, you're right. .  

This country was not in the same sad state of affairs that is in now.  

So did many others like Sonny Bono, run after being in entertainment.

It should not preclude a person from running for office after being in entertainment,  after being bitten by the "public service" bug.    Wink
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« Reply #434 on: January 30, 2016, 01:35:27 PM »

Reagan didn't make the direct leap of celebrity to presidential candidate, though. He got involved in politics as a corporate speaker, then obviously was a two-term governor in California.

A Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump presidency would be unprecedented, unless I'm mistaken: he'd be the only president ever to have no previous political or military experience. Hopefully Americans aren't stupid enough to vote for him.

Now, now, Captain. We all know that Trump has "always felt that [he] was in the military" thanks to his military-themed boarding school and "because [he] dealt with those people." He'll have you know that he has had "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military." Maybe you'll consider that before you go running your mouth off next time.
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« Reply #435 on: January 30, 2016, 01:38:34 PM »

Trump will leave the Republican Party in ruins like every other group of people he has dealt with. This guy gets his money and leaves others to pick up the wreckage.
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« Reply #436 on: January 30, 2016, 06:01:52 PM »

I'm just glad that Bernie's really caught up, and putting Hillary in serious trouble......
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« Reply #437 on: January 31, 2016, 07:07:17 AM »

I'm just glad that Bernie's really caught up, and putting Hillary in serious trouble......

And Ben and Jerry's formulated an ice cream flavor for him and both of them are out on "the stump" for Bernie. 

Who would have thought that he would do so well?  All he needs is for O'Malley's people to commit to him.

It will be an interesting week.  LOL
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« Reply #438 on: February 01, 2016, 08:13:52 PM »

Seems that Ted Cruz has won on the Republican side of the Iowa Caucus. On the Democratic side, O'Malley's finally dropped out and it's virtually a tie between Sanders and Clinton with no clear winner as of yet (fingers crossed for Sanders!)
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« Reply #439 on: February 01, 2016, 10:32:55 PM »

I can't say I'm shocked. They're looking for good ol' boys and they're gonna get 'em. I smell a Cruz v. Hillary in 2016. Gods help us.
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« Reply #440 on: February 01, 2016, 10:43:48 PM »



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« Reply #441 on: February 01, 2016, 11:02:25 PM »

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« Reply #442 on: February 02, 2016, 12:35:34 AM »

I can't say I'm shocked. They're looking for good ol' boys and they're gonna get 'em. I smell a Cruz v. Hillary in 2016. Gods help us.

Trump's gonna be our next president. Im calling it now. Not that Im happy about it. Anyway, one minor loss wont stop him. Iowa was one of the few states he was expected to lose. Hell win NH and keep going strong
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« Reply #443 on: February 02, 2016, 01:14:33 AM »

At this point from what I've observed all I can really say is that we really should expect the unexpected. You never really know what's going to happen. Just look at Jeb Bush for instance. He went from a potential front-runner to an all but forgotten candidate
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« Reply #444 on: February 02, 2016, 03:35:36 AM »

Yes, and that was due to Trump dominating him at every debate, drilling the phrase "low energy" into him so hard he ought to have it tattooed on his forehead, and showing him up for the putz he always was. Nobody wanted another Bush and it was viscerally satisfying to watch Trump eviscerate him whether you like Trump or not. I think there IS a clear theme here, that people are sick of the same business as usual, gridlocked, phony, bought and paid for politicians. Thats why an independent who styles himself a Socialist and an outsider like Trump are doing so much better than anyone thought. Unfortunately, Bernie's campaign was sort of stonewalled by media blackout and his own lack of charisma. This was offset by people liking his policies, his passion and genuineness but not enough to get him the nomination Im predicting. Trump is a genius, whether you like him or not. The way he has run his campaign has been totally masterful and there will be books written about it, analyzing it, for decades after this. He has completely dominated the media, controlled the narrative at times (skipping the debate and making it irrelevant in the process for example), and demolished any candidates or moderators who tried to stop him. While I agree with Megan Kelly's points against him, she even got a new more masculine haircut after he called her a bimbo, for example. And Jeb started the attacks against the two in the first debate, he just had no idea what he was unleashing. After that, many were reluctant to criticize Trump in the debates or suffer the same.

I urge everyone to read Scott Adams blog. Its not amazing, but hes a trained hypnotist who knows about the art of persuasion and how people can be manipulated on a subconscious level. He's been analyzing Trump's moves from day one, from an objective standpoint--he doesnt support the policies so its not blind fanboyism. I dislike most of his policies too, and would have wanted Bernie, but on an objective level Im fascinated by what Trump has done and since it seems inevitable to me at this point, Ive resigned myself to enjoy the show. Anyway, think what you want about him, but hes not beholden to anyone and is doing a great job reforming the long irrelevant, often embarassing Republican party. What won me over to start studying him rather than call him a joke was how he skipped the last debate and stuck it to Fox. That, and he's run a great campaign, one of the most effective Ive seen in my life time if not the most.
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« Reply #445 on: February 02, 2016, 05:56:21 AM »

Seems that Ted Cruz has won on the Republican side of the Iowa Caucus. On the Democratic side, O'Malley's finally dropped out and it's virtually a tie between Sanders and Clinton with no clear winner as of yet (fingers crossed for Sanders!)

I guess Owe Malley finally saw the writing on the wall. 

Since there'll be no need to vote against him in the primaries, I can change my affiliation back to Republican. 
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« Reply #446 on: February 02, 2016, 06:42:30 AM »

I can't say I'm shocked. They're looking for good ol' boys and they're gonna get 'em. I smell a Cruz v. Hillary in 2016. Gods help us.
Good ol' boys is right.  They won't want either Bernie or Trump. 

If Bernie was smart, he would have Ben and Jerry handing out ice cream samples at the polls. They are rock stars in their own right.  LOL

It beats all those trees that are cut down for that propaganda they shove in your face at the polls. 
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« Reply #447 on: February 02, 2016, 06:56:00 AM »

Real out-loud laughter here.
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« Reply #448 on: February 02, 2016, 07:00:22 AM »

Yes, and that was due to Trump dominating him at every debate, drilling the phrase "low energy" into him so hard he ought to have it tattooed on his forehead, and showing him up for the putz he always was. Nobody wanted another Bush and it was viscerally satisfying to watch Trump eviscerate him whether you like Trump or not. I think there IS a clear theme here, that people are sick of the same business as usual, gridlocked, phony, bought and paid for politicians. Thats why an independent who styles himself a Socialist and an outsider like Trump are doing so much better than anyone thought. Unfortunately, Bernie's campaign was sort of stonewalled by media blackout and his own lack of charisma. This was offset by people liking his policies, his passion and genuineness but not enough to get him the nomination Im predicting. Trump is a genius, whether you like him or not. The way he has run his campaign has been totally masterful and there will be books written about it, analyzing it, for decades after this. He has completely dominated the media, controlled the narrative at times (skipping the debate and making it irrelevant in the process for example), and demolished any candidates or moderators who tried to stop him. While I agree with Megan Kelly's points against him, she even got a new more masculine haircut after he called her a bimbo, for example. And Jeb started the attacks against the two in the first debate, he just had no idea what he was unleashing. After that, many were reluctant to criticize Trump in the debates or suffer the same.

I urge everyone to read Scott Adams blog. Its not amazing, but hes a trained hypnotist who knows about the art of persuasion and how people can be manipulated on a subconscious level. He's been analyzing Trump's moves from day one, from an objective standpoint--he doesnt support the policies so its not blind fanboyism. I dislike most of his policies too, and would have wanted Bernie, but on an objective level Im fascinated by what Trump has done and since it seems inevitable to me at this point, Ive resigned myself to enjoy the show. Anyway, think what you want about him, but hes not beholden to anyone and is doing a great job reforming the long irrelevant, often embarassing Republican party. What won me over to start studying him rather than call him a joke was how he skipped the last debate and stuck it to Fox. That, and he's run a great campaign, one of the most effective Ive seen in my life time if not the most.
I don't really think of Trump as much different from all the other populist demagogues who have gotten a grouchy public's attention throughout history. It's always effective when played to the right crowd at the right time. He's been doing the same schtick since the 80s but the time is right for it to catch on.
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« Reply #449 on: February 02, 2016, 07:01:53 AM »

I can't say I'm shocked. They're looking for good ol' boys and they're gonna get 'em. I smell a Cruz v. Hillary in 2016. Gods help us.
Good ol' boys is right.  They won't want either Bernie or Trump. 

If Bernie was smart, he would have Ben and Jerry handing out ice cream samples at the polls. They are rock stars in their own right.  LOL

It beats all those trees that are cut down for that propaganda they shove in your face at the polls. 
Yeah. It's way better to kill cows than trees.
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