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« Reply #275 on: September 05, 2015, 11:20:16 PM »

There's a shop below me that specialises in old board games. They had this on display yesterday and I instantly thought of this thread.

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« Reply #276 on: September 19, 2015, 11:52:48 AM »

Ain't your buddy

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« Reply #277 on: September 21, 2015, 08:29:55 AM »

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« Reply #278 on: September 21, 2015, 08:52:18 AM »

LOL

Ready to make that wager yet Bags?
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« Reply #279 on: September 22, 2015, 09:26:36 PM »

Okay well it seems like ol' Bags isn't doing his little candidate profiles anymore so how about I continue them?


Marco Rubio



So this is the guy that the establishment Republicans want if they can't convince enough fools that El Jebe* is good for them. He will be proof that they totally aren't racists, cuz look, he's one of them Hispanics! If nominated, it will prove that the Republican complaint in 2008 about then-Senator Obama not having enough "experience" was total bullshit, as Senator Rubio is a first term senator, just like President Obama was!

Anyways, in other news, Marco has got a sugar daddy named Sheldon Adelson, a super good lookin' guy who just wants world peace (errr....no. Actually he wants lots of war). Here's a photo of Sheldon. Ladies, don't bother....he's taken.



Anyways, Marco rode the tea bagger wave in 2010 to get elected, but after getting elected he has stated that he's not a tea bagger. Weird.

Finally, we want you cool kids to know that Marco is pretty hip. He listens to Tubesock Shucker and calls him a poet. So obviously Marco doesn't know much about poetry if he thinks that asshole is a poet. Also, if President Obama talked about Tupac the way Marco does, people like my good friend Bean Bag would be saying, "Broke Obumbler totally supports a cop hating rapist! He's a doodie head! BENGHAZI!!!"

Also, Marco gets thirsty a lot, especially during big speeches. He also enjoys awkwardly reaching for tiny water bottles while staring at cameras. It's fun.



Lastly, I just wanna inform you guys of how commited Mr. Rubio's fans are with a little story...

A met your average white, middle-aged lady. You know, the kind that hates Obama and probably thinks he's a Muslim. But anyways, she tells me one day, "you know who I really like? I'm really liking that new guy, Mark Ruby. I think he's really gonna be great."

So obviously, Marco's (errr...Mark's?) fans are so committed to his cause that they don't know either his first or last name. Anyways, this is a movement people. Watch out for Rubio, the next big thing!

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« Reply #280 on: September 23, 2015, 04:12:29 AM »

  Rubio: No home runs but staying on base with singles and doubles. Jeb: On base via a bunt.
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« Reply #281 on: September 23, 2015, 05:43:12 AM »

More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL
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« Reply #282 on: September 23, 2015, 06:14:23 AM »

More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?

Here's a link for ya to help figure out whether Hillary was the "original birther"...

Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?


Also, while we're at it, where do you believe the President was born?
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« Reply #283 on: September 23, 2015, 06:29:16 AM »

 w00t!
More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?
Oh, yes, but I'm more of a more moderate and conservative democrat.  I'm not a socialist. The party has not been balanced for a couple of decades.  That is the difference. And, they are breaking stories that no one dares report.  If a dem doesn't want to "redistribute the wealth" there is no place for them.  

Last night Geraldo did an interesting immigration analysis.  He looked at numbers of working Hispanics who were deported and replaced by immigrants of another nation. So, his interpretations that the U.S. only swapped one immigrant group for another. The numbers game was played.  He has an interesting background which has run from activist-lawyer-whistleblower, and tends to bring an interesting viewpoint,  and his very varied legal background, working in poverty law, and with a break-out story on neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities, who were at the Staten Island Wilowbrook State School.  

And, I get my news from more than one source, contrasting liberal against conservative (which ironically is investigating and reporting out some of the corruption in govt., ) even if it is election politics. And then weighing that against some of the foreign press.  No steady diet of one flavor of press for me.  But they (Fox) broke the stories.  And bravo from me!
 w00t!
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« Reply #284 on: September 23, 2015, 06:33:20 AM »

w00t!
More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?
Oh, yes, but I'm more of a more moderate and conservative democrat.  I'm not a socialist. The party has not been balanced for a couple of decades.  That is the difference. And, they are breaking stories that no one dares report.  If a dem doesn't want to "redistribute the wealth" there is no place for them.  

Last night Geraldo did an interesting immigration analysis.  He looked at numbers of working Hispanics who were deported and replaced by immigrants of another nation. So, his interpretations that the U.S. only swapped one immigrant group for another. The numbers game was played.  He has an interesting background which has run from activist-lawyer-whistleblower, and tends to bring an interesting viewpoint,  and his very varied legal background, working in poverty law, and with a break-out story on neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities, who were at the Staten Island Wilowbrook State School.  

And, I get my news from more than one source, contrasting liberal against conservative (which ironically is investigating and reporting out some of the corruption in govt., ) even if it is election politics. And then weighing that against some of the foreign press.  No steady diet of one flavor of press for me.  But they (Fox) broke the stories.  And bravo from me!
 w00t!


Interesting that you ducked the question on President Obama's birthplace...
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« Reply #285 on: September 23, 2015, 06:42:32 AM »

w00t!
More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?
Oh, yes, but I'm more of a more moderate and conservative democrat.  I'm not a socialist. The party has not been balanced for a couple of decades.  That is the difference. And, they are breaking stories that no one dares report.  If a dem doesn't want to "redistribute the wealth" there is no place for them.  

Last night Geraldo did an interesting immigration analysis.  He looked at numbers of working Hispanics who were deported and replaced by immigrants of another nation. So, his interpretations that the U.S. only swapped one immigrant group for another. The numbers game was played.  He has an interesting background which has run from activist-lawyer-whistleblower, and tends to bring an interesting viewpoint,  and his very varied legal background, working in poverty law, and with a break-out story on neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities, who were at the Staten Island Wilowbrook State School.  

And, I get my news from more than one source, contrasting liberal against conservative (which ironically is investigating and reporting out some of the corruption in govt., ) even if it is election politics. And then weighing that against some of the foreign press.  No steady diet of one flavor of press for me.  But they (Fox) broke the stories.  And bravo from me!
 w00t!


Interesting that you ducked the question on President Obama's birthplace...
Hey Jim - I didn't give birth to him. I don't have his birth certificate. I was not there.

But, Hillary suggested during the campaign in 2008 (and you maybe should have followed up on what I posted) that his mother was in Africa and pregnant in a more or less a situation where she she might not have been able to travel (Hillary's words not mine, for clarity) and that post-partum, departed for Hawaii to "register his birth."

Now, that is what I heard last night, so it might still be on line for you do do your own homework.  It was news to me, but I saw interview footage. So you can go check that out.

And the FBI has been able to retrieve some emails from the server. 

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« Reply #286 on: September 23, 2015, 07:20:04 AM »

w00t!
More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?
Oh, yes, but I'm more of a more moderate and conservative democrat.  I'm not a socialist. The party has not been balanced for a couple of decades.  That is the difference. And, they are breaking stories that no one dares report.  If a dem doesn't want to "redistribute the wealth" there is no place for them.  

Last night Geraldo did an interesting immigration analysis.  He looked at numbers of working Hispanics who were deported and replaced by immigrants of another nation. So, his interpretations that the U.S. only swapped one immigrant group for another. The numbers game was played.  He has an interesting background which has run from activist-lawyer-whistleblower, and tends to bring an interesting viewpoint,  and his very varied legal background, working in poverty law, and with a break-out story on neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities, who were at the Staten Island Wilowbrook State School.  

And, I get my news from more than one source, contrasting liberal against conservative (which ironically is investigating and reporting out some of the corruption in govt., ) even if it is election politics. And then weighing that against some of the foreign press.  No steady diet of one flavor of press for me.  But they (Fox) broke the stories.  And bravo from me!
 w00t!


Interesting that you ducked the question on President Obama's birthplace...
Hey Jim - I didn't give birth to him. I don't have his birth certificate. I was not there.

But, Hillary suggested during the campaign in 2008 (and you maybe should have followed up on what I posted) that his mother was in Africa and pregnant in a more or less a situation where she she might not have been able to travel (Hillary's words not mine, for clarity) and that post-partum, departed for Hawaii to "register his birth."

Now, that is what I heard last night, so it might still be on line for you do do your own homework.  It was news to me, but I saw interview footage. So you can go check that out.

And the FBI has been able to retrieve some emails from the server.  



Okay. Thank you for that.

Smiley Smile Message Board, we now know that filledtheplagel is a birther.


Big surprise there.

And no, Hillary did not suggest anything like what you are saying. But you lying is not exactly a new thing.
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« Reply #287 on: September 23, 2015, 08:03:27 AM »

YAAAAWN.  Sorry.... the last debate was a big snoozer to me.  Anyone else?  I may have to check out till February.   LOL

Perhaps being a conservative (aka: thinking human being) -- these debates and their questions aren't for me?  I have to assume that's their goal -- to make stupid people watch and hate the candidates.  Because it was really, really stupid.  I felt like Albert Einstein, by comparison -- and that's not good!  It was waaaay too John Stewart, waaaay too HuffPo tabloid for me.

You can see the turds coming before they axe 'em.  As long as the "media"  Air Quotes (aka liberal quacks masquerading as "journalists") continue to pretend to be "moderators" in these phony "debates" we're just gonna be stuck on stupid, America.  Someone really needs to slap them around.  They're really holding the country back.


"Mr Trump would you like to turn and face Ms. Fiorina -- and address the comments you made regarding what you said about her face."
"Ah... not really."

"Why --"
"Because you're a $%^&$ moron."

"But you said Ms Fiorina has a --"
"Ah... no, Jake.  I just said -- if you roll back the tape -- I just said you were a %^$%@$# moron. M'kay?"

"But the American people have the right to know how much you hate women."
"They have a right to know that you're a shthead and a fcking moron."

"Ok. Mr. Carson.  Why do you hate Muslims?  Just how much of a bigot are you?"
"Slightly less of bigot than you, Jake."

"Alrighty then.  Mr. Cruz.  Everyone in the Newsroom hates Christians -- so why do you exist?  Can you just get out of the race, please?  You bigot."

"Rubio.  Want some water?"
"Sure.

"Gotchya!!  See... America, he drinks water... and he has a boat."
"hillary has more money than I do..."

"Why do you hate women."



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« Reply #288 on: September 23, 2015, 08:04:04 AM »

w00t!
More is coming out about the "birther issue" which now, seems to have originated in Hillary's 2008 campaign docs and statements...before she was not nominated for the spot.

Stay tuned.

Fox rocks!  LOL

For someone who calls herself a Democrat you sure believe whatever garbage Fox throws at ya, don't you filledaplagee?
Oh, yes, but I'm more of a more moderate and conservative democrat.  I'm not a socialist. The party has not been balanced for a couple of decades.  That is the difference. And, they are breaking stories that no one dares report.  If a dem doesn't want to "redistribute the wealth" there is no place for them.  

Last night Geraldo did an interesting immigration analysis.  He looked at numbers of working Hispanics who were deported and replaced by immigrants of another nation. So, his interpretations that the U.S. only swapped one immigrant group for another. The numbers game was played.  He has an interesting background which has run from activist-lawyer-whistleblower, and tends to bring an interesting viewpoint,  and his very varied legal background, working in poverty law, and with a break-out story on neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities, who were at the Staten Island Wilowbrook State School.  

And, I get my news from more than one source, contrasting liberal against conservative (which ironically is investigating and reporting out some of the corruption in govt., ) even if it is election politics. And then weighing that against some of the foreign press.  No steady diet of one flavor of press for me.  But they (Fox) broke the stories.  And bravo from me!
 w00t!


Interesting that you ducked the question on President Obama's birthplace...
Hey Jim - I didn't give birth to him. I don't have his birth certificate. I was not there.

But, Hillary suggested during the campaign in 2008 (and you maybe should have followed up on what I posted) that his mother was in Africa and pregnant in a more or less a situation where she she might not have been able to travel (Hillary's words not mine, for clarity) and that post-partum, departed for Hawaii to "register his birth."

Now, that is what I heard last night, so it might still be on line for you do do your own homework.  It was news to me, but I saw interview footage. So you can go check that out.

And the FBI has been able to retrieve some emails from the server.  

Okay. Thank you for that.

Smiley Smile Message Board, we now know that filledtheplagel is a birther.


Big surprise there.

And no, Hillary did not suggest anything like what you are saying. But you lying is not exactly a new thing.
Here is a link. Original author source Bloomberg editor John Heilemann, formally of CBS News.  

http://birtherreport.com/2015/09/affirmed-fox-news-host-hillary-clinton.html

Hope it copies. I don't care for the screaming font print.  

Please don't call me a liar.  

Mods, please take notice.

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« Reply #289 on: September 23, 2015, 08:29:48 AM »

Please don't call me a liar.  

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.
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« Reply #290 on: September 23, 2015, 08:31:22 AM »

YAAAAWN.  Sorry.... the last debate was a big snoozer to me.  Anyone else?  I may have to check out till February.   LOL

Perhaps being a conservative (aka: thinking human being) -- these debates and their questions aren't for me?  I have to assume that's their goal -- to make stupid people watch and hate the candidates.  Because it was really, really stupid.  I felt like Albert Einstein, by comparison -- and that's not good!  It was waaaay too John Stewart, waaaay too HuffPo tabloid for me.

You can see the turds coming before they axe 'em.  As long as the "media"  Air Quotes (aka liberal quacks masquerading as "journalists") continue to pretend to be "moderators" in these phony "debates" we're just gonna be stuck on stupid, America.  Someone really needs to slap them around.  They're really holding the country back.


"Mr Trump would you like to turn and face Ms. Fiorina -- and address the comments you made regarding what you said about her face."
"Ah... not really."

"Why --"
"Because you're a $%^&$ moron."

"But you said Ms Fiorina has a --"
"Ah... no, Jake.  I just said -- if you roll back the tape -- I just said you were a %^$%@$# moron. M'kay?"

"But the American people have the right to know how much you hate women."
"They have a right to know that you're a shthead and a fcking moron."

"Ok. Mr. Carson.  Why do you hate Muslims?  Just how much of a bigot are you?"
"Slightly less of bigot than you, Jake."

"Alrighty then.  Mr. Cruz.  Everyone in the Newsroom hates Christians -- so why do you exist?  Can you just get out of the race, please?  You bigot."

"Rubio.  Want some water?"
"Sure.

"Gotchya!!  See... America, he drinks water... and he has a boat."
"hillary has more money than I do..."

"Why do you hate women."



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And now for all to see, it is obvious that little ol' Bags lives in an alternate reality. He apparently transcribed quotes from the debate that were never said by anyone except the voices in his head.
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« Reply #291 on: September 23, 2015, 08:43:04 AM »

Please don't call me a liar.  

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."
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« Reply #292 on: September 23, 2015, 08:54:19 AM »

Please don't call me a liar.  

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
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« Reply #293 on: September 23, 2015, 09:01:23 AM »

Please don't call me a liar.  

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
Your link was earlier in time; this is "new" news. Old, really, if you consider that now that the candidates are becoming smaller in number, the researchers are going back at least 8 years into the previous campaigns to find "prior inconsistent statements."

And, in the coming days the other news outlets will likely start picking up the story.  The truth has a way of coming out...just like "wiped with a cloth" email servers. 
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« Reply #294 on: September 23, 2015, 09:26:06 AM »

Please don't call me a liar. 

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
Your link was earlier in time; this is "new" news. Old, really, if you consider that now that the candidates are becoming smaller in number, the researchers are going back at least 8 years into the previous campaigns to find "prior inconsistent statements."

And, in the coming days the other news outlets will likely start picking up the story.  The truth has a way of coming out...just like "wiped with a cloth" email servers. 

The entire thing you posted is obviously some crazy right wing site. And linked videos don't show any proof of what they are talking about. The closest to the truth is possibly that some Hillary supporters were doing the birther thing to slow down Obama in 2008. However, there isn't a smidgen of anything to suggest that Hillary herself or her campaign had anything to do with all that.


Lastly, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You've proven that you are just another .....something..... if you actually believe that President Obama's birth information is all made up. We are allowed to disagree about ideas and opinions, but not about facts. And the adults in the Republican Party agree with me. But you of course have thrown in with the Trumps and Cruz's and choose to believe this nonsense.

P.S. You are aware that even if Barack Obama was born to his American born mother in another country, he would still be eligible for President, correct? Apparently Ted Cruz is eligible even though he is a Canadian-born Cuban. So what exactly is the right-wing trying to say with all the Obama birther stuff anyways?
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« Reply #295 on: September 23, 2015, 09:40:16 AM »

Please don't call me a liar. 

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
Your link was earlier in time; this is "new" news. Old, really, if you consider that now that the candidates are becoming smaller in number, the researchers are going back at least 8 years into the previous campaigns to find "prior inconsistent statements."

And, in the coming days the other news outlets will likely start picking up the story.  The truth has a way of coming out...just like "wiped with a cloth" email servers. 

The entire thing you posted is obviously some crazy right wing site. And linked videos don't show any proof of what they are talking about. The closest to the truth is possibly that some Hillary supporters were doing the birther thing to slow down Obama in 2008. However, there isn't a smidgen of anything to suggest that Hillary herself or her campaign had anything to do with all that.


Lastly, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You've proven that you are just another .....something..... if you actually believe that President Obama's birth information is all made up. We are allowed to disagree about ideas and opinions, but not about facts. And the adults in the Republican Party agree with me. But you of course have thrown in with the Trumps and Cruz's and choose to believe this nonsense.

P.S. You are aware that even if Barack Obama was born to his American born mother in another country, he would still be eligible for President, correct? Apparently Ted Cruz is eligible even though he is a Canadian-born Cuban. So what exactly is the right-wing trying to say with all the Obama birther stuff anyways?
That site I referenced was the first hit. It had the both links on one site.  The evidence is derivative.  Just because a news source is one that doesn't fit with political affiliation, doesn't mean all contained within it is false.  Look how Hillary disparaged Snowden and wanted him criminally charged. Now, that time has passed and his cred has risen, he is now not a traitor but more of a whistle blower.  It is also relative to what happened in time.  She was first to condemn him for exposing "state secrets." Time will tell what "state secrets" she was involved in.

The challenge is finding the truth on both sides and weighing it for yourself. Never mind stereotyping right and left "wing nuts."
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« Reply #296 on: September 23, 2015, 09:50:37 AM »

Please don't call me a liar. 

But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
Your link was earlier in time; this is "new" news. Old, really, if you consider that now that the candidates are becoming smaller in number, the researchers are going back at least 8 years into the previous campaigns to find "prior inconsistent statements."

And, in the coming days the other news outlets will likely start picking up the story.  The truth has a way of coming out...just like "wiped with a cloth" email servers. 

The entire thing you posted is obviously some crazy right wing site. And linked videos don't show any proof of what they are talking about. The closest to the truth is possibly that some Hillary supporters were doing the birther thing to slow down Obama in 2008. However, there isn't a smidgen of anything to suggest that Hillary herself or her campaign had anything to do with all that.


Lastly, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You've proven that you are just another .....something..... if you actually believe that President Obama's birth information is all made up. We are allowed to disagree about ideas and opinions, but not about facts. And the adults in the Republican Party agree with me. But you of course have thrown in with the Trumps and Cruz's and choose to believe this nonsense.

P.S. You are aware that even if Barack Obama was born to his American born mother in another country, he would still be eligible for President, correct? Apparently Ted Cruz is eligible even though he is a Canadian-born Cuban. So what exactly is the right-wing trying to say with all the Obama birther stuff anyways?
That site I referenced was the first hit. It had the both links on one site.  The evidence is derivative.  Just because a news source is one that doesn't fit with political affiliation, doesn't mean all contained within it is false.  Look how Hillary disparaged Snowden and wanted him criminally charged. Now, that time has passed and his cred has risen, he is now not a traitor but more of a whistle blower.  It is also relative to what happened in time.  She was first to condemn him for exposing "state secrets." Time will tell what "state secrets" she was involved in.

The challenge is finding the truth on both sides and weighing it for yourself. Never mind stereotyping right and left "wing nuts."

And you prove my point that when confronted with facts, you change the argument. Instead of agreeing or disagreeing that it wasn't Hillary but possibly her supporters who tried the birther thing, you just start talking about Hillary's email and Republican TV networks.
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« Reply #297 on: September 23, 2015, 10:06:05 AM »

Please don't call me a liar. 
But you are a liar. And ever since you've joined the board all you do is willingly misrepresent facts.

If you have an open mind and watched the video, your position might be different. 

That is the second time you called me a liar. Mod alert.

And, I substantiated what the earlier post was concerning, taking the time to find the link, while you offered no opposing evidence. 

So, I backed up what I saw and shared from last night which was built on not one (Fox)news source, but three.  Fox relied on Bloomberg which had 2008 documentation from CBS.  So their sources were solid. 

If you want to reject my info and position, fine, but please find your own, and rebut intelligently and civilly, and one of Obama's famous (which is a Harvard mantra) expressions,"We can disagree without being disagreeable."


I posted a link BEFORE YOU DID debunking the whole "Hillary birther" thing from the nonpartisan fact check website. But just like every other thing on this board where you're concerned, you just steamroll through without paying attention to what anyone else is saying.

So for you to say that I just respond without thought is pretty rich.
Your link was earlier in time; this is "new" news. Old, really, if you consider that now that the candidates are becoming smaller in number, the researchers are going back at least 8 years into the previous campaigns to find "prior inconsistent statements."

And, in the coming days the other news outlets will likely start picking up the story.  The truth has a way of coming out...just like "wiped with a cloth" email servers. 

The entire thing you posted is obviously some crazy right wing site. And linked videos don't show any proof of what they are talking about. The closest to the truth is possibly that some Hillary supporters were doing the birther thing to slow down Obama in 2008. However, there isn't a smidgen of anything to suggest that Hillary herself or her campaign had anything to do with all that.


Lastly, I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You've proven that you are just another .....something..... if you actually believe that President Obama's birth information is all made up. We are allowed to disagree about ideas and opinions, but not about facts. And the adults in the Republican Party agree with me. But you of course have thrown in with the Trumps and Cruz's and choose to believe this nonsense.

P.S. You are aware that even if Barack Obama was born to his American born mother in another country, he would still be eligible for President, correct? Apparently Ted Cruz is eligible even though he is a Canadian-born Cuban. So what exactly is the right-wing trying to say with all the Obama birther stuff anyways?
That site I referenced was the first hit. It had the both links on one site.  The evidence is derivative.  Just because a news source is one that doesn't fit with political affiliation, doesn't mean all contained within it is false.  Look how Hillary disparaged Snowden and wanted him criminally charged. Now, that time has passed and his cred has risen, he is now not a traitor but more of a whistle blower.  It is also relative to what happened in time.  She was first to condemn him for exposing "state secrets." Time will tell what "state secrets" she was involved in.

The challenge is finding the truth on both sides and weighing it for yourself. Never mind stereotyping right and left "wing nuts."

And you prove my point that when confronted with facts, you change the argument. Instead of agreeing or disagreeing that it wasn't Hillary but possibly her supporters who tried the birther thing, you just start talking about Hillary's email and Republican TV networks.
No, I didn't prove your point. The "Republican network" label used other news sources. It was a democratic pre-primary fight for the nomination in 2008.

In a campaign, there may be "loose cannons," and competing interests are often nasty. But, ultimately, the candidate is liable for whether is put out there.  So her staff may have done the research to load the discussion but ultimately, she is on the hook for acts and omissions of her staff.  These are her statements. She is trying to distance herself from those statements.  One interview was slso from a guy from 60 Minutes. Did she retract it? In 2008? She was competing against Obama for the nomination.

The "birther" thing is interesting.  If his mother was an American citizen, of course, that would pass to him.  Few countries have jus soli (citizen of the technical land of birth) citizenships.  Jus sanguinis is not determined by place of birth but by parent citizenship.  It is mostly defined by treaties with defininitions imposed by the international community.

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« Reply #298 on: September 23, 2015, 10:26:58 AM »

 Rubio: No home runs but staying on base with singles and doubles. Jeb: On base via a bunt.

Yeah, I think you're right.  Here's my take....


Trump:  I would stop going to the debates if I were him.  It's not hurting him by showing up, but they're such a relic of the "old system."  It's a stupid scripted little slow dance among the media/Party/power/elites.  I swear, I can hear Journey playing "Open Arms" while the media and Parties are swaying back 'n forth.  Knock it off... we're over it.  I still believe Trump represents a way out of this staid format.  But I wish somebody would seize on this and put this turkey out of its misery.  It's just awful.  Anyway...

Rubio:  He's passionate and does good with his time, I suppose.  As you said, Moon Dawg, he's on base.  But I don't think the Party's base voters are waving him around.

Jeb:  On life support.  From the donor money -- but more so from the liberal/media-elite/power-complex -- who want him so badly it hurts.  They're keeping him alive with a faint pulse, because they already have their script written if he faces Hillary.  So they're gonna keep placing him center stage next to The Donald.  Another reason why Donald should just stop going...

Cruz:  Slow and steady.  But too steady -- he may have to loosen up a bit.  Don't think I've ever seen that side of him, so maybe he shouldn't.  As a Conservative, though, I think he's been great of course.

Carson:  I'm surprised, I have to admit, that he's doing so well.  As much as I like him, I just thought he was walking into too much, too soon.  But again, it just shows-to-go-ya how sick of it all Americans are.  He's connecting with people.  The media machine is going to continue to ramp up their attacks.  They can't have this...

Carly:  Once she got noticed in the first debate, the media went to work.  They have to.  They don't have a reliable script for Hillary vs Another Woman.  They do, but it's a thin one -- and it requires a lot of prep work.  So their strategy was to prop her up as a "battered woman" -- so they can yank the rug out from under her.  So she's wisely pivoted from that track and is showing a softer side.  So we'll see if she can continue to out run the hounds in the media.  Because -- write this down:  they WILL NOT allow a woman to run against Hillary.


And then there's the rest...
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« Reply #299 on: September 23, 2015, 05:01:32 PM »

Okay well it seems like ol' Bags isn't doing his little candidate profiles anymore so how about I continue them?


Marco Rubio



So this is the guy that the establishment Republicans want if they can't convince enough fools that El Jebe* is good for them. He will be proof that they totally aren't racists, cuz look, he's one of them Hispanics! If nominated, it will prove that the Republican complaint in 2008 about then-Senator Obama not having enough "experience" was total bullshit, as Senator Rubio is a first term senator, just like President Obama was!

Anyways, in other news, Marco has got a sugar daddy named Sheldon Adelson, a super good lookin' guy who just wants world peace (errr....no. Actually he wants lots of war). Here's a photo of Sheldon. Ladies, don't bother....he's taken.



Anyways, Marco rode the tea bagger wave in 2010 to get elected, but after getting elected he has stated that he's not a tea bagger. Weird.

Finally, we want you cool kids to know that Marco is pretty hip. He listens to Tubesock Shucker and calls him a poet. So obviously Marco doesn't know much about poetry if he thinks that asshole is a poet. Also, if President Obama talked about Tupac the way Marco does, people like my good friend Bean Bag would be saying, "Broke Obumbler totally supports a cop hating rapist! He's a doodie head! BENGHAZI!!!"

Also, Marco gets thirsty a lot, especially during big speeches. He also enjoys awkwardly reaching for tiny water bottles while staring at cameras. It's fun.



Lastly, I just wanna inform you guys of how commited Mr. Rubio's fans are with a little story...

A met your average white, middle-aged lady. You know, the kind that hates Obama and probably thinks he's a Muslim. But anyways, she tells me one day, "you know who I really like? I'm really liking that new guy, Mark Ruby. I think he's really gonna be great."

So obviously, Marco's (errr...Mark's?) fans are so committed to his cause that they don't know either his first or last name. Anyways, this is a movement people. Watch out for Rubio, the next big thing!

*(pronounced "el Heb-ay)

  "Your average white, middle-aged lady...the kind that hates Obama....probably think he's a Muslim."

 Dude - Your thinking has become increasingly stereotypical. You are putting people in boxes of your own construction. Do you have data to suggest most white middle aged women hate Obama or is this but another example of the "identity politics" mindset that has crippled independent thinking today in the United States??
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