No Pier Pressure (board member reviews)

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

I give it 4 stars.

      

Is that 4/4 stars or 4/5 stars?

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

TWGMTR doesn't sound like Imagination. And NPP doesn't sound like either.

If one actually bothers to listen to Brian's solo output, the latest albums sound a lot less like Imagination and a lot more like the records he recorded in the oughts.

The biggest difference? Joe gets Brian writing new songs, many of which are excellent.

Joe learns. So does Brian.

Exactly, and isn't it interesting that Brian's best vocals occur when Joe is co-producing. 

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

If Brian never records with anyone other than Joe, then so be it. I have absolutely no issues with JT...

I'd get your hearing seen to, were I you. That or you actually like tuna fish.

[edit: cute...  ]

Rather comical coming from one who's hearing has taken a dump as of late. Tuna fish? Sure, as long as it's done tastefully as Joe and Brian have done on NPP. But you would know better than
them, huh? 

[The Shift]

If Brian never records with anyone other than Joe, then so be it. I have absolutely no issues with JT...

I'd get your hearing seen to, were I you. That or you actually like tuna fish.

[edit: cute...  ]

Rather comical coming from one who's hearing has taken a dump as of late. Tuna fish? Sure, as long as it's done tastefully as Joe and Brian have done on NPP. But you would know better than
them, huh? 

Agreed … hearing no objectionable manipulation yet even though we're so far listening to sub-par audio sources, which usually exaggerate such effects (to my ears). And let's face it, we're not being held down and force fed this music… we choose to listen to it, and only a cool would subsequently opt to buy something they'd alread said they didnae like…

[rab2591]

Maybe Brian likes working with Joe, and likes the finished product? I mean, say what you will, but Brian is clearly getting something out of the relationship. Feel free to dislike the sound, but don't presume that Brian is doing anything other than what he wants to do.

This. No Pier Pressure is Brian Wilson's album - it's what he saw fit to to release to the world. It is completely evident that Brian has gone to great lengths to make this album sound the way he wants to hear it. Kacey Musgraves, for example: "I would sing something and I would sing it seven times and he (Wilson) would say `do it again, do it again' until it was exactly perfect". It's been said by Ray Lawlor that Brian worked his ass off in the studio for this release. And as a poster intelligently pointed out in another thread, I highly doubt Joe is sneaking into the studio at night mischievously tampering with the mixes.

Risking being labelled a Pier Pressure Policeman (lol), I think people just need to take this album for what it is. If you don't like it, fine. If you like it, fine. But don't cast blame on Joe Thomas for your idea of bad production. As I was told once before, Brian has the final say on everything that he releases...given what we've been told, this is a project Brian truly cared about and put a lot of work into....don't like it? blame the man who gave you Pet Sounds.

Thanks for the review GhostyTMRS! We're now just 7 days from release!

[HeyJude]

I threw up reviews (not literally; the songs were actually quite the opposite of vomit-inducing) of the so-far-released songs on my Blog, http://beachboysopinion.blogspot.com , and I'm also trying to keep a companion Facebook page for the blog, http://facebook.com/beachboysopinion

I still think Brian should recall the copies of "No Pier Pressure" and quickly record and add on a song based on yesterday's Twitter Q&A, possibly titled, "Send Me a Pic and I'll Tell You."

I'm probably not going to buy "On the Island" on iTunes right now; I guess at this stage I'll keep as much mystery and surprise for the album as possible.

Can someone post confirmed songwriting credits for all of the songs on the album? Curious if it's literally mostly Wilson/Thomas.

[onkster]

Regarding Brian's "old man stuff"--which I indeed like, as I become one myself--has anybody parsed which songs are left over from the "Suite" that was to originally comprise all of TWGMTR?

I say this because some of what I've heard would fit in nicely to that concept. (Necessitating a hybrid playlist once "Pier" comes out...)

[job]

Maybe on par with TLOS??  From what I have heard, it blows away TLOS.

[Wirestone]

I don't think there's anything known definitively about what else might be included in the suite, with the exception of the backing track "I'd Go Anywhere," which is on the "Doin' It Again" documentary.

[GhostyTMRS]

I give it 4 stars.

      

Is that 4/4 stars or 4/5 stars?

4 out of 5

[GhostyTMRS]

I threw up reviews (not literally; the songs were actually quite the opposite of vomit-inducing) of the so-far-released songs on my Blog, http://beachboysopinion.blogspot.com , and I'm also trying to keep a companion Facebook page for the blog, http://facebook.com/beachboysopinion

I still think Brian should recall the copies of "No Pier Pressure" and quickly record and add on a song based on yesterday's Twitter Q&A, possibly titled, "Send Me a Pic and I'll Tell You."

I'm probably not going to buy "On the Island" on iTunes right now; I guess at this stage I'll keep as much mystery and surprise for the album as possible.

Can someone post confirmed songwriting credits for all of the songs on the album? Curious if it's literally mostly Wilson/Thomas.

Joe Thomas gets a cowriting credit on all but two songs. There are occasionally other writers listed. I'll provide you with full songwriting credits later today when I'm actually sitting in front of a computer instead of speaking into an iPhone. LOL

[GhostyTMRS]

Maybe on par with TLOS??  From what I have heard, it blows away TLOS.

I prefer the production sound of TL OS better than what's on this record, but song for song I think there are more stronger songs on NPP than on TL OS.

[Andrew G. Doe]

TWGMTR doesn't sound like Imagination. And NPP doesn't sound like either.

If one actually bothers to listen to Brian's solo output, the latest albums sound a lot less like Imagination and a lot more like the records he recorded in the oughts.

The biggest difference? Joe gets Brian writing new songs, many of which are excellent.

Joe learns. So does Brian.

Exactly, and isn't it interesting that Brian's best vocals occur when Joe is co-producing.  

Just checking... nope, according to the credits of BWRG Thomas had precisely nothing to do with the album widely considered to showcase Brian's best vocals of his solo career. Thomas also had diddly to do with TLOS.  So, neither interesting nor accurate.

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike needs Joe thomas for his 2017 solo album since Joe can fix Mike's weak nasal whine on record.

[Andrew G. Doe]

If Brian never records with anyone other than Joe, then so be it. I have absolutely no issues with JT...

I'd get your hearing seen to, were I you. That or you actually like tuna fish.

[edit: cute...  ]

Rather comical coming from one who's hearing has taken a dump as of late. Tuna fish? Sure, as long as it's done tastefully as Joe and Brian have done on NPP. But you would know better than them, huh? 

Was I talking about NPP ?  Were you ? Nope. Was I talking about the likes of TWGMTR and the utterly unlistenable C50 live album, both awash Otto Chune ? Yup. If you truly have "absolutely no issues" with those two releases, especially the latter, then your hearing is far worse than mine has or will ever be.

[job]

Maybe on par with TLOS??  From what I have heard, it blows away TLOS.

I prefer the production sound of TL OS better than what's on this record, but song for song I think there are more stronger songs on NPP than on TL OS.

I just don't get the love for TLOS.  NPP is actually TUNEFUL instead of more Brian checked out, I'm being forced to do this, robotic, tuneless crap.

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

TWGMTR doesn't sound like Imagination. And NPP doesn't sound like either.

If one actually bothers to listen to Brian's solo output, the latest albums sound a lot less like Imagination and a lot more like the records he recorded in the oughts.

The biggest difference? Joe gets Brian writing new songs, many of which are excellent.

Joe learns. So does Brian.

Exactly, and isn't it interesting that Brian's best vocals occur when Joe is co-producing.  

Just checking... nope, according to the credits of BWRG Thomas had precisely nothing to do with the album widely considered to showcase Brian's best vocals of his solo career. Thomas also had diddly to do with TLOS.  So, neither interesting nor accurate.

Apparently you need your hand held while I walk you through this as we all know that if you didn't say it, it will be either wrong or uninteresting to you. We'll go slow so there will be no confusion because it looks like it's not just your ears that are going. My statement , the one I posted above (with me?) meant that I, yes , I,  not you or anyone else for that matter, believes, thinks, subscribes to   the opinion that to my healthy ears, Brian Wilson's best vocals have occurred when he works with Joe Thomas. In spite of what is "widely considered" (hearsay in other words) are on Imagination and NPP. Did you get all of this? Good. Now go on your merry way.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Post that again when you've sobered up and it might make sense.

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

Post that again when you've sobered up and it might make sense.

Edited for lesser souls (like yourself) so they may partake as well. 

[SMiLE Brian]

AGD, back from baiting to get OSD banned. All you do on this board is bully people and rewrite history for that psycho Mike Love.

[GhostyTMRS]

Songwriting credits for HeyJude:

1. This Beautiful Day (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
2.  Runaway Dancer (B. Wilson and J. Thomas and S. Simonian)
3. Whatever Happened  (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
4. On The Island  (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
5. Half Moon Bay (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
6. Our Special Love (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
7. The Right Time (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
8. Guess You Had To Be There (B. Wilson and J. Thomas and A. Salgado and K. Musgraves)
9. Don't Worry (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
10. Somewhere Quiet (B. Wilson and S. Bennett)
11. I'm Feeling Sad (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
12. Tell Me Why (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)
13. Sail Away (B. Wilson and J. Thomas and J. Peterik and L. Millas)
14.One Kind Of Love (B. Wilson and S. Bennett)
15. Saturday Night (B. Wilson and J. Thomas and N. Reuss)
16. The Last Song (B. Wilson and J. Thomas)

[Ron]

How'd you get it so early?

... and how'd he listen to it enough to write a review, so early?  Why review something from an artist you revere enough to be on a message board devoted to... by listening to his album once and then writing your thoughts?


Patience, Grasshoppa.

[GhostyTMRS]

Are you kidding? Brian Wilson albums don't come along every day. I got it in the afternoon and listened straight through over and over until 5am this morning. Then I listened to it again twice this afternoon. Patience? Why bother? I go apesh*t when Brian releases a new album. 

[bgas]

How'd you get it so early?

... and how'd he listen to it enough to write a review, so early?  Why review something from an artist you revere enough to be on a message board devoted to... by listening to his album once and then writing your thoughts?


Patience, Grasshoppa.

I think you're just jealous

[kwebb]

Did they bring Jim Peterik back in during the NPP sessions to help with "Sail Away," or was this song written in 2012?