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« Reply #225 on: March 21, 2006, 09:52:12 AM »

Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?

Are you sure this is geniune? It sounds to me like someone just playing the chords on piano and someone who sounds a lot like Jeff Fosket singing. There's more solo piano tunes on A.B such as "Girls on the beach" and ,if I recall correctly, "Do you like worms?".
I don't think vocals were ever recorded for the '65 version.
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« Reply #226 on: March 21, 2006, 10:00:41 AM »

Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?

Are you sure this is geniune? It sounds to me like someone just playing the chords on piano and someone who sounds a lot like Jeff Fosket singing. There's more solo piano tunes on A.B such as "Girls on the beach" and ,if I recall correctly, "Do you like worms?".
I don't think vocals were ever recorded for the '65 version.


I am not sure, but I think it's likely that this are the BBs. But I could be wrong
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« Reply #227 on: April 02, 2006, 09:36:05 AM »

Hi Mark

In a press-release, Brian´s daughter Carnie revealed some news about her dad:

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...Wilson has been in and out of the studio over the past six months recording songs that he claims will be for an upcoming "rock and roll" record...

Does "recording" means he´s working with you and the whole band or just laying down some demos? Are the background vocals done by the band? What does the production sound like? Are these newly written songs? And ... uhm ... are they good (compared to "Christmasey" or "WIRWFC" for example)?

You are probably not allowed to talk about it, or you just don´t want to, but I´m really looking forward to a reply.
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« Reply #228 on: April 08, 2006, 08:38:18 AM »

Hi Mark,

I'm trying to find out at what speed recordings were generally made in the 60's.  Say, circa 66-67, and I mean at the tracking stage.  Was it 30 ips or 15 ips?
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« Reply #229 on: April 08, 2006, 04:53:10 PM »

Hi Mark,

I'm trying to find out at what speed recordings were generally made in the 60's.  Say, circa 66-67, and I mean at the tracking stage.  Was it 30 ips or 15 ips?


15 ips all the way for the most part. Certainly all the Beach Boys recordings were done that way.

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« Reply #230 on: April 19, 2006, 03:06:10 PM »

Mark, In the Sound on Sound article from 2004, it states "Brian's leads through May and into June, recording for the most part on a Neumann U67 or an old Shure 545 dynamic, running through Universal Audio 610 and 610a valve mic preamps (just as on the '60s recordings)." I was curious, what determined the choice of mic? Was it dependent on the dynamics of the song? I have a Neumann TL 103 I run through a Manley Vox Box for most of the vocals I record. When I record a punk band, I usually give them an SM 58 or 57 to sing through because they are so loud and spitty. The most problems I have are with singers that go from a whisper to extremely loud SPL during a song. Should I use a limiter or just use mild compression and ride the gain? Any thoughts on the new Korg Oasys keyboard vs the Kurzweil 2600? I really appreciate  having access to you and Mr. Desper on this forum. It is an honor.
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« Reply #231 on: April 19, 2006, 03:11:38 PM »

Mark, In the Sound on Sound article from 2004, it states "Brian's leads through May and into June, recording for the most part on a Neumann U67 or an old Shure 545 dynamic, running through Universal Audio 610 and 610a valve mic preamps (just as on the '60s recordings)." I was curious, what determined the choice of mic? Was it dependent on the dynamics of the song? I have a Neumann TL 103 I run through a Manley Vox Box for most of the vocals I record. When I record a punk band, I usually give them an SM 58 or 57 to sing through because they are so loud and spitty. The most problems I have are with singers that go from a whisper to extremely loud SPL during a song. Should I use a limiter or just use mild compression and ride the gain? Any thoughts on the new Korg Oasys keyboard vs the Kurzweil 2600? I really appreciate  having access to you and Mr. Desper on this forum. It is an honor.

Thanks. The decision was mostly arbitrary since we were overdubbing the leads. If the chosen mic didn't sound good , we'd switch but in all honesty either one would have worked fine for the entire project.

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« Reply #232 on: April 20, 2006, 12:43:46 PM »

Mark, in your experience, have you found there to be much difference between the older R45 dynamic cartridge as used in the 545 and the current version found in the 545-ld or whatever it's called shure is selling new these days?
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« Reply #233 on: April 20, 2006, 01:36:45 PM »

Mark, in your experience, have you found there to be much difference between the older R45 dynamic cartridge as used in the 545 and the current version found in the 545-ld or whatever it's called shure is selling new these days?

I wasn't aware there was a current 545 only the SM-57 which sounds most like the older 545 to me.
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« Reply #234 on: April 20, 2006, 01:39:50 PM »

Yeah, this baby:

http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/545.asp



I bought one a couple years ago and I think it sounds better than the sm57.  The capsules actually are slightly different.  I don't like the switch, though.
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« Reply #235 on: April 23, 2006, 12:32:55 PM »

Yeah, this baby:

http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/545.asp



I bought one a couple years ago and I think it sounds better than the sm57.  The capsules actually are slightly different.  I don't like the switch, though.

My understanding is the 545 was preatty much a  57 w/ less quality control. In other words 2- sm-57's should sound more alike than 2- 545's (which I believe are no longer in production) and 57's should sound like the best 545's. You may have a 545 w/ a "sound" you like better, but 57's are  more consistant.

I have a large number of 57's and 56'S (57 on a swivel w/ a shockmount) Also 4- 545's and 7 or 8 of the "pro" version w/ the shockmount and swivel like the SM-56. All lovely and most useful. You could easily make a great record using nothing but 545's and 57's , and many have.

as for the switch on yr. 545, turn the little plate below the switch  around and it will be locked in the on position...... Mark
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« Reply #236 on: May 02, 2006, 03:32:01 PM »

Nice article, I thought I put the link into this thread : http://www.zioshow.com/viewnews.php?id=7652
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« Reply #237 on: May 02, 2006, 03:43:42 PM »

My thanks to the folk at API for putting up the article.....

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« Reply #238 on: May 09, 2006, 05:59:17 PM »

Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?

This has been maybe my number one vault question (not relating to SMiLE) for twenty years.  The last time I went through "An American Band"(on DVD) I couldn't pick up where it was, for some reason, so I'd held up posting about it.
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« Reply #239 on: May 10, 2006, 10:28:23 AM »

Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?

This has been maybe my number one vault question (not relating to SMiLE) for twenty years.  The last time I went through "An American Band"(on DVD) I couldn't pick up where it was, for some reason, so I'd held up posting about it.

yeah, where is it?  I dont remember hearing it on the American Band DVD?
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« Reply #240 on: May 10, 2006, 11:20:40 AM »

it's on chapter 5, where they're talking about how they can't surf
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« Reply #241 on: May 10, 2006, 02:16:29 PM »

How many minutes is that into the film? I only have an old video of it..
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« Reply #242 on: May 10, 2006, 10:16:01 PM »

maybe 15 or so, it's shown over stock footage of surfing and homevideos of the boys..
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« Reply #243 on: May 11, 2006, 10:44:22 AM »

I never paid much attention to it before, I thought it's the bridge of "Surfer Girl".
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« Reply #244 on: May 11, 2006, 03:32:42 PM »

I just listened to it, its harmonyvocals that goes "uuuu" over the melodyline, sounds great! Or hmmm, I guess its just an illusion, since I always thinks its totally marvelous to hear some vintage beachboysharmonies I had never heard before. =)
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« Reply #245 on: May 12, 2006, 10:40:28 PM »

Whether i've heard 'em before or not, Beach Boys harmonies are always keen!

The frightening thing is that i mean that...
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« Reply #246 on: May 19, 2006, 11:01:18 AM »

Mark,

Here's a question about the Pet Sounds DVD-A.

What, technically speaking, is the difference between the two sides? I know one is for pukka DVD-A players and one is compatible with DVD-video players. The DVD-A side definately sounds more smooth to my ears and I can pick out more details...while perhaps the DVD-Video side has brighter highlights. Or am I imagining things?

I prefer the DVD-A side. Sounds more natural...
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« Reply #247 on: May 19, 2006, 11:10:25 AM »

Mark,

Here's a question about the Pet Sounds DVD-A.

What, technically speaking, is the difference between the two sides? I know one is for pukka DVD-A players and one is compatible with DVD-video players. The DVD-A side definately sounds more smooth to my ears and I can pick out more details...while perhaps the DVD-Video side has brighter highlights. Or am I imagining things?

I prefer the DVD-A side. Sounds more natural...

Sorry, I'm not Mark, but I'm certain he would point out that the difference is due to the advanced resolution of the DVD-A side ("high-definition audio" if you'd like) which features a much higher sampling rate than a standard CD. The DVD video side presents the mix in a compressed Dolby Digital format and a slightly less compressed DTS format, both are acceptable but neither are technically better than a standard CD; some would say the quality is inherently worse than a well-mastered standard CD.
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« Reply #248 on: May 29, 2006, 06:43:19 AM »

Mark,
after reading the little conversation you had with someone on the blueboard about the Pet Sounds-stereo mix, I remembered something I always wanted to know.
On "I just wasn't made for these time" (mono) there a scratching sound or something like this after the opening lyric "I keep looking for a place to fit in, where I can speak my mind".  That sound only lasts for about a second but it's missing on the stereo-version. Can you explain what it is and why it was left out? Thank you...
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« Reply #249 on: June 01, 2006, 05:32:39 PM »

 Mark, when you record double track lead vocals is there anything special you do different to one of the tracks, like put it at  75%  volume versus the first one, or do drastic EQ so there isn't a frequency build up? I recorded someone who wanted 4 lead vocals of themselves up front. It was fine with one vocal but got harsher when each vocal was brought up in the mix. I had to cut a lot of midrange but finally got them to settle for just a double track.
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