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March 15, 2006, 08:46:32 AM »
Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 15, 2006, 08:33:53 AM
Mark,
Still Crusin’: Any chance of a resurrection of this album? 20th Anniversary Edition with bells and whistles? Filled out with valid odds and ends, like “Rock and Roll to the Rescue”, “Lady Liberty”, “Spirit of Rock and Roll”, etc? Perhaps coupled with Summer in Paradise?
There’s a massive demand for these albums! Listen to the screams of the fans!
(crickets chirping)
No, seriously. The addition of this 2-fer would give us the complete body of work readily available. Tell the suits that they need to release it!
Was there any consideration of this album when the Brother 2-fers were prepared?
Taint likely........
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March 15, 2006, 09:02:00 AM »
Well, I have nothing to live for now.....
Never will I get to hear "Island Girl" in 24-bit sound.
Meanwhile, Capitol wastes money on worthless American Beatle album reissues.
PAH!
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March 15, 2006, 09:09:28 AM »
Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 15, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
Meanwhile, Capitol wastes money on worthless American Beatle album reissues.
Worthless to casual fans.
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March 15, 2006, 09:15:27 AM »
I wouldn't call myself a "casual fan", yet I don't feel the need to splurge on redundant and often lesser versions of Beatle albums.
To each his own, eh?
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March 15, 2006, 10:12:54 AM »
Mark,
thanks for the reply.
Quote from: yrplace on March 15, 2006, 07:44:36 AM
I don't believe Hoffman had the original master in 93 for the DCC release .
My recollection is he had to use the NY copy and since we had already discovered the master had dissapeared from Capitol, I would likely recall (as would EMI) if he was the last one to use the original master. In addition I believe we did the GV box before the DCC of PS and I know the analog master had gone missing by then.
Steve said that he had the original master tape for the DCC (1993). He also said that WIBN had to be mastered from the NY tape (because it being duophonic on the master), and the same thing needed to be done for part of the Banana & Louie coda. Do you think that is wrong?
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The Japanese Pastmaster CD is from the same denoised master as the US version in 1990. EMI in Japan just jumped the gun and released the CD without the band's approval.
Wasn't there a Japanese release
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the Pastmasters (1989) Pet Sounds disc? I have never seen it, but often read about it.
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March 15, 2006, 10:38:48 AM »
Quote from: Andreas on March 15, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
Wasn't there a Japanese release
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the Pastmasters (1989) Pet Sounds disc? I have never seen it, but often read about it.
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Yes, there indeed was...earlier in 1989, on Capitol Japan's "Greenline 2800" series (the copyright date is 1987, but it definitely did not get released until early '89). Got one that year myself, BTW, and it wasn't easy (in the pre-internet days). Had to jump through some hoops, since not only was it an import but it also was yanked almost immediately after release. The later Japanese Past Master version was much more readily available, and speaking of that series, "I Get Around" on "All Summer Long" is duphonic...perhaps for the same reason. I seem to recall the first Japanese 1989 "Pet Sounds" not having quite the fidelity of the 1990 U.S. issue, but I will have to do a comparison to see.
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March 15, 2006, 11:04:46 AM »
Quote from: c-man on March 15, 2006, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Andreas on March 15, 2006, 10:12:54 AM
Wasn't there a Japanese release
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the Pastmasters (1989) Pet Sounds disc? I have never seen it, but often read about it.
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Yes, there indeed was...earlier in 1989, on Capitol Japan's "Greenline 2800" series (the copyright date is 1987, but it definitely did not get released until early '89). Got one that year myself, BTW, and it wasn't easy (in the pre-internet days). Had to jump through some hoops, since not only was it an import but it also was yanked almost immediately after release. The later Japanese Past Master version was much more readily available, and speaking of that series, "I Get Around" on "All Summer Long" is duphonic...perhaps for the same reason. I seem to recall the first Japanese 1989 "Pet Sounds" not having quite the fidelity of the 1990 U.S. issue, but I will have to do a comparison to see.
C-Man
If it has the bonus tracks on it then its the same as the US 1st CD. We finished it in 88 or 89 but it was help up for approval in the US. The Japanese division jumped the gun and released it early.
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March 15, 2006, 03:20:40 PM »
Mark --
No questions, just a 'thank you' for taking the time to pass along all this info.
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March 15, 2006, 03:33:38 PM »
Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 15, 2006, 08:33:53 AM
Mark,
Still Crusin’: Any chance of a resurrection of this album? 20th Anniversary Edition with bells and whistles? Filled out with valid odds and ends, like “Rock and Roll to the Rescue”, “Lady Liberty”, “Spirit of Rock and Roll”, etc? Perhaps coupled with Summer in Paradise?
There’s a massive demand for these albums! Listen to the screams of the fans!
(crickets chirping)
No, seriously. The addition of this 2-fer would give us the complete body of work readily available. Tell the suits that they need to release it!
Was there any consideration of this album when the Brother 2-fers were prepared?
Summer in Paradise...I borrowed it from the library and I wish I had .mp3d it cuz its hard to find now...IMHO its not's bad as you might think...the only thing I really dont like is that John Stamos gets the last vocal on the last song on the last (for now) beach boys original album...
I like the updated version of "Surfin"...The cover of Sly and the Family stones was good too...I was expecting a horrible album and found I liked it (not classic but I didn't hate it for sure!!!) it surprised me...
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Mark: the track "Surfin" sounds muddy on my 1990 2fer Surfin Surfari/SUSA CD...is the master not in good condition? I guess its 45 years now since it was recorded....
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March 15, 2006, 05:33:56 PM »
Or it was smothered in no-noise.
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Quote from: wind chime on March 15, 2006, 03:36:04 PM
Mark: the track "Surfin" sounds muddy on my 1990 2fer Surfin Surfari/SUSA CD...is the master not in good condition? I guess its 45 years now since it was recorded....
The actual master for the track "Surfin'" is from the Hite-Morgan sessions. That master was used for the "Lost And Found 1961-1962" CD and for the GV box set, at the correct speed. It sounds much better than the sped-up-copy used for the album.
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BTW we are hoping to have both a new vinyl and mono release of PS out before long as we recently found a much better master than the one we've been forced to use for the past 15 years or so. No definate schedule for the re-release yet, but the improvement is dramatic..
hope you like the PS DVD-A. You might want to pick up the "Live at The Roxy" DVD-A as well. You can get it online from Rhino and I think there's a link to it on Brian's website.
Mark
First off the PS DVD-A...well it's awesome! Definately better than the Simply Vinyl release, the vocals and high frequencies are generally much clearer. Bass still a little wooly but maybe that's a result of recording techniques? One can hear the tape hiss...and even a quite humming that sounds like it must have been on the original masters...as well as some intended musical moments that aren't on the Simply Vinyl release.
So far I've listened to the 5.1 mix and the advanced resolution mono. Honestly not sure which I prefer at this point.
BTW Mark I already have the DVD-A of Live @ The Roxy, seems to capture the ambience of a live performance very well.
A new vinyl release (mono *please*) from a better master would be another must-have for me...assuming I never get hold of the original release!
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Hey Mark. I know you've noted that the Powers That Be aren't interested in Stereo Remixes of Today/Summer Days. But if this suddenly changed would remixes be difficult or easy? Are all the materials there for a remix like Pet Sounds? Are there any missing vocal tracks that would prevent a perfect remix? I think these two albums are dying for a Pet Sounds treatment, and just as deserving. Also, is there any chance of another compilation like Hawthorne, CA where you could include more remixes from these two albums?
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Hey Mark. I know you've noted that the Powers That Be aren't interested in Stereo Remixes of Today/Summer Days. But if this suddenly changed would remixes be difficult or easy? Are all the materials there for a remix like Pet Sounds? Are there any missing vocal tracks that would prevent a perfect remix? I think these two albums are dying for a Pet Sounds treatment, and just as deserving. Also, is there any chance of another compilation like Hawthorne, CA where you could include more remixes from these two albums?
Some tracks would be impossible to remix in stereo because certain elements were played live as the mono mix was being made. These include "Help Me Rhonda", ""Do You Wanna Dance" and "Girl Don't Tell Me" for example.
I suspect we will continue to present individual new stereo mixes as time goes on, but don't know when or if we will ever get to do the complete (or as much as possible) albums.
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I'd love a stereo Wild Honey before anything else.
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Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 20, 2006, 08:42:42 AM
I'd love a stereo Wild Honey before anything else.
There would be problems with some of those tracks as well.
Mark
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Are the vocals pretty much all there and in tact for the Today and SD&SN tracks, Mark? I think people would be less likely to care about missing piano solos or 12-string electric guitar breaks than missing vocals.
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Otherwise, vocals-only mixes (and/or complete backing tracks) would be great to hear...
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Quote from: aeijtzsche on March 20, 2006, 12:27:05 PM
Are the vocals pretty much all there and in tact for the Today and SD&SN tracks, Mark? I think people would be less likely to care about missing piano solos or 12-string electric guitar breaks than missing vocals.
It varies. Some vocals and piano are missing on Rhonda. The solo is missing on Do You Wanna Dance. Guitars on Girl Don't Tell Me etc.
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Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?
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Mark, do you know something about the version of "Summer means new love" with vocals, heard in "An american band"? Is it there in the vaults and how "complete" is it?
Not in the band's archives. It would appear that someone "forgot" to return it.
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Mark,
Change of subject, I was wondering which kind of engineering job you enjoy the most - working on brand new material with Brian, with all the opportunities for top fidelity and excitement of working on new material that brings - or working on remixes of the classic material, tweaking the frankly superior compositions and performances. (NO disrespect meant to the current band here, just that the 60's/70's stuff was SO good)
The two kinds of works must be very different kinds of work and I was curious what satisfaction you got from working with them
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Mark,
Change of subject, I was wondering which kind of engineering job you enjoy the most - working on brand new material with Brian, with all the opportunities for top fidelity and excitement of working on new material that brings - or working on remixes of the classic material, tweaking the frankly superior compositions and performances. (NO disrespect meant to the current band here, just that the 60's/70's stuff was SO good)
The two kinds of works must be very different kinds of work and I was curious what satisfaction you got from working with them
Well yes they are two difft. kinds of things. I love to be a part of creating something new for an artist, recording it from scratch. I especially like live recording because it is about the performance of a group of people playing together.
That said getting to work with and rework classic recordings is a great thrill because those are the records that made me want to be an engineer in the first place.
I guess you could say I never made a record I didn't like.
Mark
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How was it working with Los Straitjackets?
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