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« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2015, 07:30:47 PM »

The band has a very complicated history, and with two clear cut camps competing with each other since the 70s. It's understandable people will probably pick one as their "side." With so much ongoing bad blood between the "artistic/progressive/Wilson" and "commercial/formula/Love" camps, tensions sometimes run high. I can't say this enough, I don't hate Mike Love. But I am very critical of a lot of things he's done and said. I think where we differ is I don't feel the need to shy away from being critical. To me, discussion forums mean going over the good and bad. I guess for those of you who've been here longer it's annoying to hear the same back and forth. Understandable. But with newer fans becoming familiar with the story and speaking their piece for the first time, it's inevitable. If Mike or his fans don't like people criticizing him, maybe he should realize how he's coming off and work on himself. But I don't think it's out of line to critique a public figure. Mike, Brian or anyone else.
The thing is it isn't critical discussion. It is fighting with each other. And no matter what side you are on you will never convince the other side of your position. Just read what has been written here. We wind up fighting with each other and taking it personal and our heroes just keep going about their business. Most of all I love them for their music. It is what drew me to them in the first place. I don't know any of them. I don't know what is personal or persona with them. They have complicated relationships with each other and while we may take sharp and divided lines, I'll wager that they do not. They can fight with each other, but in the end they can come together just as quickly. These guys have been together their whole lives or at least most of it. Let's leave them to their own personal relationships.

Some of it devolves into petty squabbling yes. Sometimes there's some interesting dialogue. I started off thinking Mike was an all-out asshole who killed SMiLE and all that until I read some threads here before officially joining. I don't think a few music buffs bickering/speculating is really gonna affect anything between these guys. Mike may take it to heart a bit, but he keeps reacting the same way to it, which is technically insanity...well, what does he expect? Aside from the q&a and occasional posts, I doubt Brian even looks at this place. If he does, I doubt a couple nobodies are gonna make him alter his attitude about Mike or anybody else.
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« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2015, 07:45:25 PM »

The band has a very complicated history, and with two clear cut camps competing with each other since the 70s. It's understandable people will probably pick one as their "side." With so much ongoing bad blood between the "artistic/progressive/Wilson" and "commercial/formula/Love" camps, tensions sometimes run high. I can't say this enough, I don't hate Mike Love. But I am very critical of a lot of things he's done and said. I think where we differ is I don't feel the need to shy away from being critical. To me, discussion forums mean going over the good and bad. I guess for those of you who've been here longer it's annoying to hear the same back and forth. Understandable. But with newer fans becoming familiar with the story and speaking their piece for the first time, it's inevitable. If Mike or his fans don't like people criticizing him, maybe he should realize how he's coming off and work on himself. But I don't think it's out of line to critique a public figure. Mike, Brian or anyone else.
The thing is it isn't critical discussion. It is fighting with each other. And no matter what side you are on you will never convince the other side of your position. Just read what has been written here. We wind up fighting with each other and taking it personal and our heroes just keep going about their business. Most of all I love them for their music. It is what drew me to them in the first place. I don't know any of them. I don't know what is personal or persona with them. They have complicated relationships with each other and while we may take sharp and divided lines, I'll wager that they do not. They can fight with each other, but in the end they can come together just as quickly. These guys have been together their whole lives or at least most of it. Let's leave them to their own personal relationships.

Some of it devolves into petty squabbling yes. Sometimes there's some interesting dialogue. I started off thinking Mike was an all-out asshole who killed SMiLE and all that until I read some threads here before officially joining. I don't think a few music buffs bickering/speculating is really gonna affect anything between these guys. Mike may take it to heart a bit, but he keeps reacting the same way to it, which is technically insanity...well, what does he expect? Aside from the q&a and occasional posts, I doubt Brian even looks at this place. If he does, I doubt a couple nobodies are gonna make him alter his attitude about Mike or anybody else.
Most people read what Mike has to say, make a determination good or bad, have an opinion and leave at that. We don't. We force our opinions down each other's throats. I have no problem discussing and leaving it at that, not letting it devolve into name calling and fighting because I don't agree with another's opinion. To me it takes all the fun out of being a fan; the reason I come here in the first place.
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« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2015, 08:13:06 PM »

The band has a very complicated history, and with two clear cut camps competing with each other since the 70s. It's understandable people will probably pick one as their "side." With so much ongoing bad blood between the "artistic/progressive/Wilson" and "commercial/formula/Love" camps, tensions sometimes run high. I can't say this enough, I don't hate Mike Love. But I am very critical of a lot of things he's done and said. I think where we differ is I don't feel the need to shy away from being critical. To me, discussion forums mean going over the good and bad. I guess for those of you who've been here longer it's annoying to hear the same back and forth. Understandable. But with newer fans becoming familiar with the story and speaking their piece for the first time, it's inevitable. If Mike or his fans don't like people criticizing him, maybe he should realize how he's coming off and work on himself. But I don't think it's out of line to critique a public figure. Mike, Brian or anyone else.
The thing is it isn't critical discussion. It is fighting with each other. And no matter what side you are on you will never convince the other side of your position. Just read what has been written here. We wind up fighting with each other and taking it personal and our heroes just keep going about their business. Most of all I love them for their music. It is what drew me to them in the first place. I don't know any of them. I don't know what is personal or persona with them. They have complicated relationships with each other and while we may take sharp and divided lines, I'll wager that they do not. They can fight with each other, but in the end they can come together just as quickly. These guys have been together their whole lives or at least most of it. Let's leave them to their own personal relationships.

Some of it devolves into petty squabbling yes. Sometimes there's some interesting dialogue. I started off thinking Mike was an all-out asshole who killed SMiLE and all that until I read some threads here before officially joining. I don't think a few music buffs bickering/speculating is really gonna affect anything between these guys. Mike may take it to heart a bit, but he keeps reacting the same way to it, which is technically insanity...well, what does he expect? Aside from the q&a and occasional posts, I doubt Brian even looks at this place. If he does, I doubt a couple nobodies are gonna make him alter his attitude about Mike or anybody else.
Most people read what Mike has to say, make a determination good or bad, have an opinion and leave at that. We don't. We force our opinions down each other's throats. I have no problem discussing and leaving it at that, not letting it devolve into name calling and fighting because I don't agree with another's opinion. To me it takes all the fun out of being a fan; the reason I come here in the first place.

I don't believe I've ever called anyone names over Mike. I think I've judged all his actions on their own merit. I don't just look at all his actions as "Oh, it's Mike so it must be bad." I can't speak for everyone, but I don't believe I've seen what you're describing on these boards, at least not to the extent you're implying.
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« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2015, 08:18:37 PM »

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I don't believe I've ever called anyone names over Mike. I think I've judged all his actions on their own merit. I don't just look at all his actions as "Oh, it's Mike so it must be bad." I can't speak for everyone, but I don't believe I've seen what you're describing on these boards, at least not to the extent you're implying.

Wasn't directed towards you, in my case.
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« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2015, 08:23:35 PM »

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I don't believe I've ever called anyone names over Mike. I think I've judged all his actions on their own merit. I don't just look at all his actions as "Oh, it's Mike so it must be bad." I can't speak for everyone, but I don't believe I've seen what you're describing on these boards, at least not to the extent you're implying.

Wasn't directed towards you, in my case.

Oh, I know. I just think in general that any Mike/Brian "debating" isn't really personal. Unless I'm missing something
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« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2015, 09:17:56 PM »

Well, the thing is, as much as it's all about the music, it's also about the people who make it. And those guys give interviews. And, sometimes they say stuff that raises questions and comments. If Mike wants people to quit thinking negative things about him, he needs get a PR guy or he needs to stop giving interviews that fuels those opinions. If Brian doesn't want people to speculate about his plans, he shouldn't comment that he might retire. Public comments elicit public discussion.

The problem is that things can quickly go from opinionated discussion (which is fair game) to accusation throwing (which drags discussion off course). Not by the whole board, but by a handful of people. As a result, the conversation degenerates into a few people taking sides and accusing anyone who has a differing opinion of being "Kokomaoists" or "Brianistas."  It's natural for people to gravitate toward someone they admire. The Beach Boys fandom isn't' any different. I think most board members have preferences, but most of us aren't fighting over them or spending way too much time trying to convert everyone else to our side.

But, it's not unusual on this board.  If I say "I never really liked Bruce's shorts" I'll get 10 people telling me that I'm just too stupid to know the significance of white short shorts to the history of Pet Sounds. It's needlessly confrontational at times.

It's a shame really, that such transcendent music generates so much spite when we discuss it. I don't have to love every member of the band to love the music, but I think I have the right to comment on public statements, whether the comments are positive or negative. Maybe more "Good Vibrations," "Love and Mercy" and "Peace n Love" would  help all around: in the band and in the board.  But, if the band can't take their own advice, I'm not sure we fans will. As long as they fuss with each other and give interviews for us to discuss,  there will always be people taking sides.

But, 20 years from now, it'll all be about the music.
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« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2015, 09:52:52 PM »

Well, the thing is, as much as it's all about the music, it's also about the people who make it. And those guys give interviews. And, sometimes they say stuff that raises questions and comments. If Mike wants people to quit thinking negative things about him, he needs get a PR guy or he needs to stop giving interviews that fuels those opinions. If Brian doesn't want people to speculate about his plans, he shouldn't comment that he might retire. Public comments elicit public discussion.

The problem is that things can quickly go from opinionated discussion (which is fair game) to accusation throwing (which drags discussion off course). Not by the whole board, but by a handful of people. As a result, the conversation degenerates into a few people taking sides and accusing anyone who has a differing opinion of being "Kokomaoists" or "Brianistas."  It's natural for people to gravitate toward someone they admire. The Beach Boys fandom isn't' any different. I think most board members have preferences, but most of us aren't fighting over them or spending way too much time trying to convert everyone else to our side.

But, it's not unusual on this board.  If I say "I never really liked Bruce's shorts" I'll get 10 people telling me that I'm just too stupid to know the significance of white short shorts to the history of Pet Sounds. It's needlessly confrontational at times.

It's a shame really, that such transcendent music generates so much spite when we discuss it. I don't have to love every member of the band to love the music, but I think I have the right to comment on public statements, whether the comments are positive or negative. Maybe more "Good Vibrations," "Love and Mercy" and "Peace n Love" would  help all around: in the band and in the board.  But, if the band can't take their own advice, I'm not sure we fans will. As long as they fuss with each other and give interviews for us to discuss,  there will always be people taking sides.

But, 20 years from now, it'll all be about the music.

Agreed. Is Club Kokomoers considered name-calling? I honestly just thought that was the term for people in that camp.

All in all, we'd all be better off if we could just admit when the guys in our camp screwed up. I try to do so with Brian but I will admit I'm willing to give him a lot more leeway considering his illness and sensitivity. If Mike is sensitive, he sure as hell doesn't want anyone to think so. And that's really my main criticism with him; that he refuses to expose any faults, vulnerabilities or self-awareness. It makes him look like a jerk. He may well be a sweet, gentle, caring soul. But going off his public statements and actions through the years you would never know it.
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« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2015, 11:26:01 PM »

Those clear-cut camps have never really been clear-cut. Back in the days when all the members were alive, at various times Brian was pulled between the Carl/Dennis creatives and the Love/Jardine commercials. In more recent times Brian's regarded as the creative, with Al at his side now. Bruce was a strong vocal supporter of Brian but has ended up with Mike. I've never had a definitive handle on who's into what… and stuff like Your Imagination, California Sun, BWPSmile, Stars and Stripes, and more are arguably as shamelessly attempts at commercialism as remaking oldies for NASCAR.

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« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2015, 11:49:06 PM »

Debate is good - it's the reason this forum exists, as is having a view/opinion/whatever and expressing same. Criticism is fine, the moreso when it's justified or at least plausible. What isn't in anyway good is opening almost any given thread to find the same few "posters" grinding out the same old, old, old tune, to the point that you have to seriously consider that they have some greater or larger degree of a corrupted form of Tourettes, or some other behavioural problem.

And here's the rub - outside the confines of this forum, hardly anyone cares, even in the BB cosmos. I was at a friends, using their iPad to check this place out (I know... I know...) and they asked to look at what I was reading. They did so, their face quickly clouding with successive waves of incredulity, amusement, incomprehension and finally something akin to disgust, and handed the pad back to me with the comment "most of these people aren't anyone I'd care to ever meet, some are seriously disturbed... and you're just as bad, but you express it better".

Know something ? I honestly couldn't disagree. In our own way, we're as dysfunctional as the band. Thing is, we don't have the excuse of 50+ years of chequered interpersonal back history to inform our stances.
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« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2015, 11:59:38 PM »

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« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2015, 12:59:47 AM »

Debate is good - it's the reason this forum exists, as is having a view/opinion/whatever and expressing same. Criticism is fine, the moreso when it's justified or at least plausible. What isn't in anyway good is opening almost any given thread to find the same few "posters" grinding out the same old, old, old tune, to the point that you have to seriously consider that they have some greater or larger degree of a corrupted form of Tourettes, or some other behavioural problem.

Most of what you do is bitch nowadays, insulting the posters you don't like. You've gone as far as to include a blurb about it below your avatar. Its so clear what bothers you, and anytime someone posts something you don't like, you puff up like a toad, take a condescending and superior position, and then blast them with mean words like a small child venting at the other kids on the school yard.

But to say they have Tourette's, because they say things make u mad? That's so low I've lost any of the respect I used to have for you. 
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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2015, 01:12:18 AM »

Good heavens! You mean fans can be weird, insular, and talk about things non-fans don't care about? No kidding. That's why we're talking here instead of to AGD's friend or to my landlord.

Maybe he'd really be into Mujan's Smile theories, tho. I'll run some mixes by him and check.

Of course this all can be weird and downright goofy to random citizens. But I bet they write Harry Potter fan fiction, identify with sports teams of barely articulate millionaires, or weave sweaters out of dog hair. People tend to have some ridiculous hobbies and it's pointless to try to shame enthusiasts of anything out of... enthusing.


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« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2015, 01:25:43 AM »

Debate is good - it's the reason this forum exists, as is having a view/opinion/whatever and expressing same. Criticism is fine, the moreso when it's justified or at least plausible. What isn't in anyway good is opening almost any given thread to find the same few "posters" grinding out the same old, old, old tune, to the point that you have to seriously consider that they have some greater or larger degree of a corrupted form of Tourettes, or some other behavioural problem.

Most of what you do is bitch nowadays, insulting the posters you don't like. You've gone as far as to include a blurb about it below your avatar. Its so clear what bothers you, and anytime someone posts something you don't like, you puff up like a toad, take a condescending and superior position, and then blast them with mean words like a small child venting at the other kids on the school yard.

But to say they have Tourette's, because they say things make u mad? That's so low I've lost any of the respect I used to have for you. 

I'll deal with this crushing blow to my self-esteem as best I can.

OK, over it.  Cheesy
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« Reply #63 on: March 07, 2015, 01:53:38 AM »

Ha! I read the first few posts on this thread, came back a day later and it's been reduced to the usual sh*t. Sad.
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« Reply #64 on: March 07, 2015, 03:05:46 AM »

Ha! I read the first few posts on this thread, came back a day later and it's been reduced to the usual sh*t. Sad.

What's the usual sh*t?
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« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2015, 04:56:50 AM »

The band has a very complicated history, and with two clear cut camps competing with each other since the 70s. It's understandable people will probably pick one as their "side." With so much ongoing bad blood between the "artistic/progressive/Wilson" and "commercial/formula/Love" camps, tensions sometimes run high. I can't say this enough, I don't hate Mike Love. But I am very critical of a lot of things he's done and said. I think where we differ is I don't feel the need to shy away from being critical. To me, discussion forums mean going over the good and bad. I guess for those of you who've been here longer it's annoying to hear the same back and forth. Understandable. But with newer fans becoming familiar with the story and speaking their piece for the first time, it's inevitable. If Mike or his fans don't like people criticizing him, maybe he should realize how he's coming off and work on himself. But I don't think it's out of line to critique a public figure. Mike, Brian or anyone else.
The thing is it isn't critical discussion. It is fighting with each other. And no matter what side you are on you will never convince the other side of your position. Just read what has been written here. We wind up fighting with each other and taking it personal and our heroes just keep going about their business. Most of all I love them for their music. It is what drew me to them in the first place. I don't know any of them. I don't know what is personal or persona with them. They have complicated relationships with each other and while we may take sharp and divided lines, I'll wager that they do not. They can fight with each other, but in the end they can come together just as quickly. These guys have been together their whole lives or at least most of it. Let's leave them to their own personal relationships.

Some of it devolves into petty squabbling yes. Sometimes there's some interesting dialogue. I started off thinking Mike was an all-out asshole who killed SMiLE and all that until I read some threads here before officially joining. I don't think a few music buffs bickering/speculating is really gonna affect anything between these guys. Mike may take it to heart a bit, but he keeps reacting the same way to it, which is technically insanity...well, what does he expect? Aside from the q&a and occasional posts, I doubt Brian even looks at this place. If he does, I doubt a couple nobodies are gonna make him alter his attitude about Mike or anybody else.
Most people read what Mike has to say, make a determination good or bad, have an opinion and leave at that. We don't. We force our opinions down each other's throats. I have no problem discussing and leaving it at that, not letting it devolve into name calling and fighting because I don't agree with another's opinion. To me it takes all the fun out of being a fan; the reason I come here in the first place.

I don't believe I've ever called anyone names over Mike. I think I've judged all his actions on their own merit. I don't just look at all his actions as "Oh, it's Mike so it must be bad." I can't speak for everyone, but I don't believe I've seen what you're describing on these boards, at least not to the extent you're implying.
As Billy stated, it was not directed at you. It is a general statement. If you haven't seen it, then I don't know what else to say.
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« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2015, 07:04:22 AM »

I think we don't have to post everything that passes through our head.

I didn't care about Brian's last 'single/video', if it was by anyone else I'd have stopped listening in the middle of it. Now, DO I REALLY HAVE TO SHOW EVERYBODY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, is my opinion so important that I must repeat in every NPP thread how this new track bores me? Every day?

No. I'm sure thare are tracks in NPP that I'll love, and other that I'll like. I can wait for the full release and comment positively on those.

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« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2015, 07:05:58 AM »

Debate is good - it's the reason this forum exists, as is having a view/opinion/whatever and expressing same. Criticism is fine, the moreso when it's justified or at least plausible. What isn't in anyway good is opening almost any given thread to find the same few "posters" grinding out the same old, old, old tune, to the point that you have to seriously consider that they have some greater or larger degree of a corrupted form of Tourettes, or some other behavioural problem.

Most of what you do is bitch nowadays, insulting the posters you don't like. You've gone as far as to include a blurb about it below your avatar. Its so clear what bothers you, and anytime someone posts something you don't like, you puff up like a toad, take a condescending and superior position, and then blast them with mean words like a small child venting at the other kids on the school yard.

But to say they have Tourette's, because they say things make u mad? That's so low I've lost any of the respect I used to have for you. 

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« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2015, 07:07:53 AM »

I think we don't have to post everything that passes through our head.

I didn't care about Brian's last 'single/video', if it was by anyone else I'd have stopped listening in the middle of it. Now, DO I REALLY HAVE TO SHOW EVERYBODY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, is my opinion so important that I must repeat in every NPP thread how this new track bores me? Every day?


Well, you're certainly off to a good start.
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« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2015, 07:37:23 AM »

"Brian Wilson: Good. How are you?"

Obvious swipe at Mike for expecting some sort documentation.

"Brian Wilson: No. No. We just mostly used Al. David didn’t sing on my album. Al did."

Obviously hates Mike and is taking it out on David.

"Brian Wilson: I changed my mind. I thought so, but then I decided to make it a solo album."

Obvious admission that he ended C50 on a selfish whim.
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« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2015, 07:41:14 AM »

"Brian Wilson: Good. How are you?"

Obvious swipe at Mike for expecting some sort documentation.

"Brian Wilson: No. No. We just mostly used Al. David didn’t sing on my album. Al did."

Obviously hates Mike and is taking it out on David.

"Brian Wilson: I changed my mind. I thought so, but then I decided to make it a solo album."

Obvious admission that he ended C50 on a selfish whim.
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« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2015, 07:59:29 AM »

I think we don't have to post everything that passes through our head.

I didn't care about Brian's last 'single/video', if it was by anyone else I'd have stopped listening in the middle of it. Now, DO I REALLY HAVE TO SHOW EVERYBODY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, is my opinion so important that I must repeat in every NPP thread how this new track bores me? Every day?


Well, you're certainly off to a good start.

I'd rather feel superior to those who go on and on and on about how Mike is an asshole. It makes my day.
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« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2015, 10:51:01 AM »

I think we don't have to post everything that passes through our head.

I didn't care about Brian's last 'single/video', if it was by anyone else I'd have stopped listening in the middle of it. Now, DO I REALLY HAVE TO SHOW EVERYBODY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, is my opinion so important that I must repeat in every NPP thread how this new track bores me? Every day?


Well, you're certainly off to a good start.

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Seriously, to me having a forum means anything and (almost) everything is up for discussion. What's worse, criticizing something someone in the band did or criticizing the people criticizing for the act of criticizing? I don't know the answer, but whatever it is I'm sure neither is that far above the other.
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« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2015, 12:24:41 PM »

Yes, that's all true, as you summarize it, but we don't know what made things change. B says it was a BB album but it changed or he changed his mind. M says there was no talk of an album. Just a mess. BW is funny: when asked about working with DM and AJ he says "Dave did not sing on my album," which is sort of beside the point and makes him sound more like his Dad. I thought he would speak in greater detail about the emotional and artistic nature of the 2 collaborative songs. Funny sense of humor, I suppose.

Why does it make him sound like his dad when he mentioned that Dave didn't sing on the album? If he didn't sing on it, why should he say he did?

I do have to say though, it is kinda interesting that Dave apparently hasn't been part of Wilson-land since the Jeff Beck tour. Perhaps Brian and company realized that even though it was nice to have another Beach Boy on hand, he really didn't contribute enough to keep him instead of just another sideman. Whereas in the case of Al and Blondie, you have two real singers who each have their identifiable classics ("Help Me Rhonda" for Al and "Sail on, Sailor" for Blondie) and also can take leads on other songs like "California Saga / California", "Then I Kissed Her', "Cottonfields" and whatever else for Al, and then "Wild Honey" and maybe "Funky Pretty" or "Hold on Dear Brother" for Blondie. Dave on the other hand, the only real lead he could do authentically would be "Summertime Blues." So maybe that's why it wasn't worth it to keep him onboard. Or maybe they just simply aren't working together, for no particular reason.
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« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2015, 12:31:00 PM »

Yes, that's all true, as you summarize it, but we don't know what made things change. B says it was a BB album but it changed or he changed his mind. M says there was no talk of an album. Just a mess. BW is funny: when asked about working with DM and AJ he says "Dave did not sing on my album," which is sort of beside the point and makes him sound more like his Dad. I thought he would speak in greater detail about the emotional and artistic nature of the 2 collaborative songs. Funny sense of humor, I suppose.

Why does it make him sound like his dad when he mentioned that Dave didn't sing on the album? If he didn't sing on it, why should he say he did?

I do have to say though, it is kinda interesting that Dave apparently hasn't been part of Wilson-land since the Jeff Beck tour. Perhaps Brian and company realized that even though it was nice to have another Beach Boy on hand, he really didn't contribute enough to keep him instead of just another sideman. Whereas in the case of Al and Blondie, you have two real singers who each have their identifiable classics ("Help Me Rhonda" for Al and "Sail on, Sailor" for Blondie) and also can take leads on other songs like "California Saga / California", "Then I Kissed Her', "Cottonfields" and whatever else for Al, and then "Wild Honey" and maybe "Funky Pretty" or "Hold on Dear Brother" for Blondie. Dave on the other hand, the only real lead he could do authentically would be "Summertime Blues." So maybe that's why it wasn't worth it to keep him onboard. Or maybe they just simply aren't working together, for not particular reason.

Maybe Al and Blondie stay close to LA
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