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« Reply #150 on: February 18, 2015, 02:07:27 PM »

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« Reply #151 on: February 18, 2015, 02:19:41 PM »

THIS ALBUM IS GOING TO BE BRIAN'S BEST RELEASE IN HIS SOLO CAREER.  I WILL BET.   Grin

Posted by someone who has evidently never heard TLOS.
Actually, I have, and the spoken word parts hurt the album a lot.  The A-Side is not very well sequenced in my opinion compared to the B-Side.   Undecided

Your opinion was rendered invalid the moment you posted what is above in caps.

Am I the only one to notice that every time there are groups of positive comments about this new album that certain "old guard" members of this board feel that they have to set the record straight and get everyone into silly negative discussions about who's holding Brian hostage forcing him to use instruments he doesn't want to use, pro tools plugins, and the like, or just generally accepting the fact that because someone likes this new music doesn't mean that they don't like Brian's older solo material.  I'm a music fan, and participate in several music message boards, and I've rarely seen the likes of this.  Just because I happen to like Led Zeppelin IV doesn't mean that everybody who likes III is a complete idiot.  I love what I hear so far and I'm not afraid to say it.  Its almost as if certain contributors think they can bully others into changing their mind.  I like Lucky Old Sun and I like what I'm hearing here, and it shouldn't mean I have to choose between the two.  Like somebody said before, thank God Brian is still creating music well into his 70s.  Someday that may not be the case.

Everyone notices it. A few months ago when the 10 second Zooey clip was released the Brian album thread turned into a multiple page long anti-Brian circle jerk....a few people kept spouting repetitive negative drivel (auto-tune, Brian's career is in the tank if he's doing collaborations, Brian will never get on the radio again, etc). It's an obvious agenda that isn't executed too subtly. I loved TLOS and listened to it countless times; but I too think this will be the best album of Brian's solo career.

Heh, if one doesn't like this album there is always the 2017 Mike Love solo album. Woo.
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« Reply #152 on: February 18, 2015, 02:25:58 PM »

So, five Al leads/co-leads, eh? A quick lookthrough of the def vocal credits list done by this board some years back gives that there never was a BB studio album with more than that. (But Surf's Up, MIU and Still Cruisin' have five as well).  Cool Guy
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« Reply #153 on: February 18, 2015, 02:49:25 PM »

It sounds like really good, but I think the songwriting was better on Brian Wilson.

Whoever mentioned Christopher Cross in another thread is dead on. I like some of Cross' stuff, mind you.
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« Reply #154 on: February 18, 2015, 02:53:41 PM »

So, five Al leads/co-leads, eh? A quick lookthrough of the def vocal credits list done by this board some years back gives that there never was a BB studio album with more than that. (But Surf's Up, MIU and Still Cruisin' have five as well).  Cool Guy

I was also just thinking that it was kind of funny that the upcoming Brian Wilson solo album has more Al leads than the last Beach Boys album did.  I'm glad, though--his voice sounds great.
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« Reply #155 on: February 18, 2015, 03:00:10 PM »

The last 20 years of Brian Wilson, on one simple timeline.

1995 -- Orange Crate Art*
           I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
1997 -- The Wilsons (four tracks)
1998 -- Imagination
1999 -- First solo tour
2000 -- Live at the Roxy (live album)
2001 -- An All-Star Tribute to Brian Wilson (DVD)
2002 -- Pet Sounds Live (live album)
2003 -- Brian Wilson on Tour (DVD)
           Pet Sounds Live in London (DVD)
2004 -- Gettin' In Over My Head
           Brian Wilson Presents Smile
2005 -- What I Really Want for Christmas
           Brian Wilson Presents Smile (DVD)
2007 -- New Music from an Old Friend (two tracks)
2008 -- That Lucky Old Sun
2009 -- That Lucky Old Sun (DVD)
2010 -- Brian Wilson Reimagines Gershwin
2011 -- In the Key of Disney
2012 -- That's Why God Made the Radio**
           The Beach Boys Live in Concert (DVD)**
2013 -- The Beach Boys Live: 50th Anniversary Tour (live)**
2015 -- No Pier Pressure

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-- 3 live albums
-- 6 DVDs
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« Reply #156 on: February 18, 2015, 03:03:21 PM »

The last 20 years of Brian Wilson

1995 -- Orange Crate Art
             I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
1997 -- The Wilsons
1998 -- Imagination
1999 -- First solo tour
2000 -- Live at the Roxy (live album)
2001 -- An All-Star Tribute to Brian Wilson (DVD)
2002 -- Pet Sounds Live (live album)
2003 -- Brian Wilson on Tour (DVD)
            Pet Sounds Live in London (DVD)
2004 -- Gettin' In Over My Head
            Brian Wilson Presents Smile
2005 -- What I Really Want for Christmas


You embezzled an entire decade, brother.


EDIT: Sorry, I jumped the gun. Wasn't sure it was 2015 either but I checked after your post. Thanks!
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« Reply #157 on: February 18, 2015, 03:10:42 PM »

Somehow posted before I was done. The point is, the last 20 years have seen Brian in an astonishingly fruitful and committed place. The original compositions haven't piled up with the force or regularity of the '60s (or even the '80s), but the creativity and willpower has continued. It's quite a stretch to be a fan.
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« Reply #158 on: February 18, 2015, 03:11:57 PM »

Its been quite the ride! Cool
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« Reply #159 on: February 18, 2015, 03:15:51 PM »

I became a fan in 2006, notice how creatively he came alive again around then.

Coincidence...I think not.  Azn
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« Reply #160 on: February 18, 2015, 03:16:17 PM »

I became a fan in 2006, notice how creatively he came alive again around then.

Coincidence...I think not.  Azn
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Somehow posted before I was done. The point is, the last 20 years have seen Brian in an astonishingly fruitful and committed place. The original compositions haven't piled up with the force or regularity of the '60s (or even the '80s), but the creativity and willpower has continued. It's quite a stretch to be a fan.
You can say that again. Still dazzles me, the fact that it's 2015 and we're getting a new studio LP and he's still touring + other stuff on the way. Brian is like a cork on the ocean. Damn, he should use that metaphor in a song!
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« Reply #161 on: February 18, 2015, 03:39:37 PM »

I wasn't going to listen to the preview, but I couldn't help myself after all the good words in this thread. With a handful of slightly puzzling exceptions (hard to judge from a 15 second clip, of course), I think this album sounds like it's gonna be RAD. Seriously. And it just sounds like the music with exceptional melodies and maturity that an artist the caliber of Brian has wanted to make for a good long while, music that has been bottled up inside of him... that he wasn't held back in any way, shape or form, by any bandmate(s) with an ego-based agenda. Unfortunate, but the truth. I guess maybe that's why it has to be a solo album.  

It sounds like he really took his time making this as good as it could be, and while I disliked the album's title when I first heard it, I now absolutely LOVE it, because it hit me that this sounds to be the work of an artist unencumbered by the BBs name and all the baggage and needless detours such as demands (not requests, but demands) for mythical rooms that would come with recording a latter-day album (sans Carl and Dennis and their influence to hold Mike back from his current power leverage position), with the BB name on it.

No pier pressure, indeed.

Brian will surely have the last laugh here because this is gonna kick ass, and I feel pretty certain in thinking this is a far better piece of art than would have been with the compromises needed for this to have been a 2015 BB album.
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« Reply #162 on: February 18, 2015, 03:40:23 PM »

Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwww.  I think I'll pass. Cool Guy

Oh crap!!!  Looks like I'm reflecting on something in Cent Dep's post.  No...it was a negative comment about something way up that I had quoted...and then thought...Nawwwww.  I think I'll pass... after erasing my initial 'contrifriggin'bution.

Why...I thought...should I take something that looks kinda bad [to me] and MAKE IT WORSE?  So here we are...sorry Cent Dep.

Nice 'willpower'  there buddy.  Wink LOL
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« Reply #163 on: February 18, 2015, 03:43:30 PM »

I agree with him, personally. As for TLOS, I did think it was a great album.

I think it will be more commercial or to be more specific more commercially sounding than TLOS.  TLOS was for Wilson fanatics periods.  NPP is going to be for Wilson fanatics and the general public as much as a BW project in 2015 can be geared towards the general public anyway.  Judging from some of the samples, if this album was released in the eighties Brian would've had a legitimate "Brian Wilson is Back!" hit on his hands.  Much has changed in thirty years in how records are moved and what makes them successful so I think some moderate radio airplay and a successful tour would be a good indicator of commercial success which I think is more than attainable with this particular record.
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« Reply #164 on: February 18, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »

I agree with him, personally. As for TLOS, I did think it was a great album.

I think it will be more commercial or to be more specific more commercially sounding than TLOS.  TLOS was for Wilson fanatics periods.  NPP is going to be for Wilson fanatics and the general public as much as a BW project in 2015 can be geared towards the general public anyway.  Judging from some of the samples, if this album was released in the eighties Brian would've had a legitimate "Brian Wilson is Back!" hit on his hands.  Much has changed in thirty years in how records are moved and what makes them successful so I think some moderate radio airplay and a successful tour would be a good indicator of commercial success which I think is more than attainable with this particular record.

I too think NPP won't just be for Wilson fanatics, as evidenced by the prominent inclusion of Al on lead vocals on the lead single. It's more than a bit unusual for the lead single on a Brian Wilson record to not be Brian Wilson himself (this doesn't really bother me), but I think it's also geared at a large section of BB fans too. It was a bit odd to have to explain to a couple friends who I played the song for yesterday. I introduced the song as the "new Brian Wilson track off his upcoming album", and they were like "that's not Brian Wilson!"
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« Reply #165 on: February 18, 2015, 04:21:53 PM »

Sounds boring and doesn't sound like Brian Wilson.
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« Reply #166 on: February 18, 2015, 04:28:26 PM »

Sounds boring and doesn't sound like Brian Wilson.
How does Brian Wilson sound?
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« Reply #167 on: February 18, 2015, 06:59:48 PM »

Sounds boring and doesn't sound like Brian Wilson.
How does Brian Wilson sound?

Like everything he's recorded since 1961, I guess.

Except Speed Turtle. I like to pretend that was somebody I don't care for, like Stevie Nicks after a sex change or something LOL
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« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2015, 07:16:33 PM »

Brian's voice sounds fantastic on One Kind of Love

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« Reply #169 on: February 18, 2015, 07:57:05 PM »

What strikes me the most after listening to the previews of the songs, is the instrumentation and production.  It's a complete departure from the stuff he did before, in my opinion.  It literally sounds like he fired the entire band and hired a whole new one, then went out of his way to try and make it sound different than stuff he's done for the past 15 years.


And I like it.

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« Reply #170 on: February 18, 2015, 09:45:12 PM »

The last 20 years of Brian Wilson, on one simple timeline.

1995 -- Orange Crate Art*
           I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
1997 -- The Wilsons (four tracks)
1998 -- Imagination
1999 -- First solo tour
2000 -- Live at the Roxy (live album)
2001 -- An All-Star Tribute to Brian Wilson (DVD)
2002 -- Pet Sounds Live (live album)
2003 -- Brian Wilson on Tour (DVD)
           Pet Sounds Live in London (DVD)
2004 -- Gettin' In Over My Head
           Brian Wilson Presents Smile
2005 -- What I Really Want for Christmas
           Brian Wilson Presents Smile (DVD)
2007 -- New Music from an Old Friend (two tracks)
2008 -- That Lucky Old Sun
2009 -- That Lucky Old Sun (DVD)
2010 -- Brian Wilson Reimagines Gershwin
2011 -- In the Key of Disney
2012 -- That's Why God Made the Radio**
           The Beach Boys Live in Concert (DVD)**
2013 -- The Beach Boys Live: 50th Anniversary Tour (live)**
2015 -- No Pier Pressure

* With Van Dyke Parks
** With the Beach Boys

-- 11 studio albums
-- 3 live albums
-- 6 DVDs

I hope those aren't really the last 20 years of Brian Wilson...

Judging from the clips, Brian is in good voice. The previews aren't stunning me though like the TWGMTR previews stunned me. I think it's going to be an ok album, but like Andrew I think it will rank after TLOS. If that's "negativity" for the BW religious fanatics on this board, go blow yourselves up.

When NPP comes out, I'll probably listen through GIOMH just before it, that's going to make me appreciate it more! Cheesy

One thing bugs me: the price for the vinyl on Amazon. 60 Euros?!? And I'm going to buy it at the record shop, where it's going to be more expensive still...
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« Reply #171 on: February 18, 2015, 09:59:54 PM »

Uh guys, actually crying here. Best BW album of my lifetime? Most Likely. Runaway Dancer sounds like a contender for a new fav "weird" track

Edit: Let me back this up.
I love, I mean LOVE TLOS. Don't give me that guys, from what I'm hearing this is much more of the BDubs I love. Crazy, beautiful, and deep as the ocean when it needs to be.

I actually think the synths make this more Brian than anything else.

The guest singers and ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SOUNDING VOCALS will, from what I've heard, carry this above anything I've seen come from Brian in my time here on earth.

and again, that's not AUTOTUNE. It's a very modern (not in a good way in some cases...) style of mixing vocals. A cheap tactic to double track... Not much better, but it's not AUTOTUNE. I really dislike that...

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What strikes me the most after listening to the previews of the songs, is the instrumentation and production.  It's a complete departure from the stuff he did before, in my opinion.  It literally sounds like he fired the entire band and hired a whole new one, then went out of his way to try and make it sound different than stuff he's done for the past 15 years.


And I like it.

I LOVE the sound they had before, but it was honestly getting old... It was time for some new stuff, and this hits the damn spot.
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« Reply #172 on: February 18, 2015, 10:33:34 PM »

Uh guys, actually crying here. Best BW album of my lifetime? Most Likely. Runaway Dancer sounds like a contender for a new fav "weird" track

Edit: Let me back this up.
I love, I mean LOVE TLOS. Don't give me that guys, from what I'm hearing this is much more of the BDubs I love. Crazy, beautiful, and deep as the ocean when it needs to be.

I actually think the synths make this more Brian than anything else.

The guest singers and ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SOUNDING VOCALS will, from what I've heard, carry this above anything I've seen come from Brian in my time here on earth.

and again, that's not AUTOTUNE. It's a very modern (not in a good way in some cases...) style of mixing vocals. A cheap tactic to double track... Not much better, but it's not AUTOTUNE. I really dislike that...

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What strikes me the most after listening to the previews of the songs, is the instrumentation and production.  It's a complete departure from the stuff he did before, in my opinion.  It literally sounds like he fired the entire band and hired a whole new one, then went out of his way to try and make it sound different than stuff he's done for the past 15 years.


And I like it.

I LOVE the sound they had before, but it was honestly getting old... It was time for some new stuff, and this hits the damn spot.

I've used autotune on some projects, and I know what it sounds like...and that ain't it. Not every pitch correction unit sounds the same either. Now, I'm certain there were digital effects used, but not the kind some think. That gives me an idea...
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« Reply #173 on: February 18, 2015, 10:36:01 PM »

Oh and to touch on something else, I agree that it was time to change things up a bit.  This sounds more genuine than some other projects in the past, if I'm being frank. It's amazing what a little bit of confidence can do...seems like Brian's got his swagger back, and I love it.
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« Reply #174 on: February 18, 2015, 11:36:51 PM »


To prove a point.... here's five versions of the exact same vocal lines I did. One of these has autotune, one of these has a different pitch correction unit, and the rest of them don't. How well can you *really* pinpoint this? Same reverb and compression are used to make it fair.

Which has the autotune?

One, two, three, four, or five? The answer may surprise you. And to REALLY throw you off, one is totally 'dry' apart from the reverb.


https://www.sendspace.com/file/4k90yp

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