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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2015, 01:10:50 AM »

That's fantastic. My respect for the Mike & Bruce show just got bumped up a notch.

Mine got bumped down a notch. When they used "Forever" during the C50 tour, it felt like a tribute to Dennis as the remaining band was back together. Here it feels like exploitation by Mike and Bruce. Mike and Dennis were not exactly best friends (not sure about Dennis and Bruce) and it feels like they are taking advantage of Dennis to tug at the heartstrings of his fans and make themselves look good in the process. Maybe I am just too cynical though - and it is always good to hear Dennis.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2015, 06:08:24 AM »

It's a very Mike kind of tribute in that it is of a song from 1965, and no late 1960s, 1970's-era images of Dennis appear on the video screen. It fits in with Mike's interpretation of the band as a fun relic of the 1960s, which is probably the time--playing amateur psychologist here--that he has the most positive memories of Dennis from.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2015, 06:15:56 AM »

It's a very Mike kind of tribute in that it is of a song from 1965, and no late 1960s, 1970's-era images of Dennis appear on the video screen. It fits in with Mike's interpretation of the band as a fun relic of the 1960s, which is probably the time--playing amateur psychologist here--that he has the most positive memories of Dennis from.

Good points here. "Forever" is probably too deep and a bit melancholic for this incarnation of the band and its target audience.

A really cool tribute to Dennis would be doing "All I Want To Do", its lead singer being still alive and touring with the band.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2015, 06:28:56 AM »

It's a very Mike kind of tribute in that it is of a song from 1965, and no late 1960s, 1970's-era images of Dennis appear on the video screen. It fits in with Mike's interpretation of the band as a fun relic of the 1960s, which is probably the time--playing amateur psychologist here--that he has the most positive memories of Dennis from.

Good points here. "Forever" is probably too deep and a bit melancholic for this incarnation of the band and its target audience.

A really cool tribute to Dennis would be doing "All I Want To Do", its lead singer being still alive and touring with the band.

Hehe, complete with sound effects? Wink    Actually that is my favourite Mike lead.  Great song.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2015, 06:31:34 AM »

So what exactly does Bruce sing now?  GOK and DYWD were usually his only 2 leads and the occasional Disney Girls.
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2015, 06:49:57 AM »

My opinion, this is a near perfect tribute to Dennis. The shows I'd seen Dennis would sing "you are so Beautiful".   I love Dennis but at that time he was not in good voice and not healthy.  He was abeautiful spirit and here we see him in his youth, vibrant. "Do You wanna Dance fits the live performance as much as "Barbara Ann" or even "rock n roll music".
"Forever" was used in 2012 in the tribute. I wish I went to the show since I don't live too far from that venue, but I passed on it.

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2015, 07:05:01 AM »

Mike and Bruce were at least rehearsing Forever w/ Dennis on the screens (just like C50) at soundchecks a couple years back.  Did they ever end up doing it?
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2015, 07:29:38 AM »

The BW band needs to do a touching tribute to Mike on the NPP tour. The videowall can pulsate with legal threats and colonoscopy footage. Not a dry eye in the house!
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2015, 08:20:42 AM »

The BW band needs to do a touching tribute to Mike on the NPP tour. The videowall can pulsate with legal threats and colonoscopy footage. Not a dry eye in the house!

 LOL

I think Brian's new album title NPP, in and of itself, is already his own "tribute" to his cousin, and speaks volumes.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2015, 08:21:11 AM »

That's fantastic. My respect for the Mike & Bruce show just got bumped up a notch.

Mine got bumped down a notch. When they used "Forever" during the C50 tour, it felt like a tribute to Dennis as the remaining band was back together. Here it feels like exploitation by Mike and Bruce. Mike and Dennis were not exactly best friends (not sure about Dennis and Bruce) and it feels like they are taking advantage of Dennis to tug at the heartstrings of his fans and make themselves look good in the process. Maybe I am just too cynical though - and it is always good to hear Dennis.

It's mighty, mighty hard to see things any other way than you have just described. I'd very much like to disagree, but I can't seem to logically do so.

Here's a question I have for anyone who disagrees, and thinks that it's NOT exploitation, and NOT in very odd, or dare I say poor, taste in any way shape or form, considering the post C50 circumstances:

If Mike were to outlive one or more of the current BBs who he refuses to tour with, and then added a video tribute(s) to them too... after that specific member(s) spoke at length in the press, post C50, about how hurt and bummed they were that they were essentially (or in a rounabout way, more or less) canned, due to Mike's actions, from the BB live act while they were alive, healthy and breathing...

Would *that* video tribute still strike you as simply a 100% genuine, heartfelt tribute about how much he truly loves, cares, and misses playing/touring with that member(s)? Or would it finally get weird at that point? At what point would the man's video tribute actions be questionable? Ever?

Because it would amount to "You can be up here on stage singing with me, unless you're not really here and alive, healthy and breathing".

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to explain away how this scenario would also simply be a moving tribute, and nothing more.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2015, 08:31:53 AM »

Looks like myKe just set a new waving/pointing record during the video. His back is to the audience in the beginning-is he adjusting his partial plate?  Huh
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2015, 08:57:46 AM »

Hehe, complete with sound effects? Wink 

Of course! It wouldn't be the same without them, would it? Cheesy
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2015, 01:10:23 PM »

Cent Dep...To give Mike [and Bruce] the benefit of the doubt...THEY represent the group known as The Beach Boys.  And they do it often.  They also represent the interests of BRI.  In order to truly represent the Beach Boys to the FANS...I think it makes a LOT of sense to not just merely mention the names of the departed stars of the group but to also feature them in a meaningful way.  The whole show can't just be album cuts.  You HAVE to include hits too.  So why not include Denny's all time biggest hit lead vocal performance?  It's NO ONE'S fault that DYWD is the top of the pole for Dennis.

That said I still don't want to see video of LIVING members...unless they're right in front of the big screen...on stage...performing with the Beach Boys.

{I put Bruce in brackets because I doubt he has much of a say or a vote on matters of this nature...so to toss him in to the blame mix is really not fair is it?}
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2015, 01:45:04 PM »

Mike and the surviving members did a nice job promoting how special and unique 2012 and the C50 was. I just prefer the tributes had stopped when it ended myself.

This clip shows a lot of shots that make it seem the band was Mike, Bruce, Carl and Dennis. I know that Brian and Al (and David?) wanted their images removed but it just rubs me up the wrong way a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=secgXHQb7hM
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2015, 02:04:57 PM »

Cent Dep...To give Mike [and Bruce] the benefit of the doubt...THEY represent the group known as The Beach Boys.  And they do it often.  They also represent the interests of BRI.  In order to truly represent the Beach Boys to the FANS...I think it makes a LOT of sense to not just merely mention the names of the departed stars of the group but to also feature them in a meaningful way.  The whole show can't just be album cuts.  You HAVE to include hits too.  So why not include Denny's all time biggest hit lead vocal performance?  It's NO ONE'S fault that DYWD is the top of the pole for Dennis.

That said I still don't want to see video of LIVING members...unless they're right in front of the big screen...on stage...performing with the Beach Boys.

{I put Bruce in brackets because I doubt he has much of a say or a vote on matters of this nature...so to toss him in to the blame mix is really not fair is it?}

But I can't seem to shake the tacky feeling. And what do you honestly think of my question, if (heaven forbid) a living non-M&B BB member (who vocalized major disappointment/sadness about being squeezed out of the BBs) passes away... would it then be ok for a M&B video tribute to start appearing for that member too? IMO, it defies common sense to even think of it. How would Mike introduce the video? "Here's the member who recently very, very much wanted to continue playing in the BBs... but now that he's passed away and isn't here anymore, let's pay tribute to his talents and play this video to recreate his existence." Sorry, but it just feels gross to think about. Am I off base?

And if we can agree that this is a ridiculous scenario, I don't see how it's too terribly different from currently playing video tributes to two fallen band members (in particular, members who I feel certain would have objected to how C50 ended, and found the current situation unthinkable and inappropriate).
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2015, 02:19:17 PM »

Exactly, its a sicko situation to keep the two other founders out of the band, while only acknowledging the other two because they passed away. Its like the rest of the group is dead to Mike Love.
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2015, 02:53:30 PM »

The best way to keep touring with Mike, apparently, is to die.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2015, 03:02:09 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2015, 04:35:17 PM »

The best way to keep touring with Mike, apparently, is to die.

Poor Bruce.
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2015, 05:05:38 PM »

Cent Dep...To give Mike [and Bruce] the benefit of the doubt...THEY represent the group known as The Beach Boys.  And they do it often.  They also represent the interests of BRI.  In order to truly represent the Beach Boys to the FANS...I think it makes a LOT of sense to not just merely mention the names of the departed stars of the group but to also feature them in a meaningful way.  The whole show can't just be album cuts.  You HAVE to include hits too.  So why not include Denny's all time biggest hit lead vocal performance?  It's NO ONE'S fault that DYWD is the top of the pole for Dennis.

That said I still don't want to see video of LIVING members...unless they're right in front of the big screen...on stage...performing with the Beach Boys.

{I put Bruce in brackets because I doubt he has much of a say or a vote on matters of this nature...so to toss him in to the blame mix is really not fair is it?}

But I can't seem to shake the tacky feeling. And what do you honestly think of my question, if (heaven forbid) a living non-M&B BB member (who vocalized major disappointment/sadness about being squeezed out of the BBs) passes away... would it then be ok for a M&B video tribute to start appearing for that member too? IMO, it defies common sense to even think of it. How would Mike introduce the video? "Here's the member who recently very, very much wanted to continue playing in the BBs... but now that he's passed away and isn't here anymore, let's pay tribute to his talents and play this video to recreate his existence." Sorry, but it just feels gross to think about. Am I off base?

And if we can agree that this is a ridiculous scenario, I don't see how it's too terribly different from currently playing video tributes to two fallen band members (in particular, members who I feel certain would have objected to how C50 ended, and found the current situation unthinkable and inappropriate).

I think I am pretty safe in saying Dennis would not be happy that Mike uses his image on stage today. Carl I'm not sure.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2015, 05:41:38 PM »

Cent Dep...To give Mike [and Bruce] the benefit of the doubt...THEY represent the group known as The Beach Boys.  And they do it often.  They also represent the interests of BRI.  In order to truly represent the Beach Boys to the FANS...I think it makes a LOT of sense to not just merely mention the names of the departed stars of the group but to also feature them in a meaningful way.  The whole show can't just be album cuts.  You HAVE to include hits too.  So why not include Denny's all time biggest hit lead vocal performance?  It's NO ONE'S fault that DYWD is the top of the pole for Dennis.

That said I still don't want to see video of LIVING members...unless they're right in front of the big screen...on stage...performing with the Beach Boys.

{I put Bruce in brackets because I doubt he has much of a say or a vote on matters of this nature...so to toss him in to the blame mix is really not fair is it?}


But I can't seem to shake the tacky feeling. And what do you honestly think of my question, if (heaven forbid) a living non-M&B BB member (who vocalized major disappointment/sadness about being squeezed out of the BBs) passes away... would it then be ok for a M&B video tribute to start appearing for that member too? IMO, it defies common sense to even think of it. How would Mike introduce the video? "Here's the member who recently very, very much wanted to continue playing in the BBs... but now that he's passed away and isn't here anymore, let's pay tribute to his talents and play this video to recreate his existence." Sorry, but it just feels gross to think about. Am I off base?

And if we can agree that this is a ridiculous scenario, I don't see how it's too terribly different from currently playing video tributes to two fallen band members (in particular, members who I feel certain would have objected to how C50 ended, and found the current situation unthinkable and inappropriate).

I suppose the difference is that Carl and Dennis are gone, so showing clips of their performances is the only way to see them.  The others are still alive and kicking and performing, so you could go see them if you wished.  Not saying I agree.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2015, 05:56:43 PM »

Cent Dep...To give Mike [and Bruce] the benefit of the doubt...THEY represent the group known as The Beach Boys.  And they do it often.  They also represent the interests of BRI.  In order to truly represent the Beach Boys to the FANS...I think it makes a LOT of sense to not just merely mention the names of the departed stars of the group but to also feature them in a meaningful way.  The whole show can't just be album cuts.  You HAVE to include hits too.  So why not include Denny's all time biggest hit lead vocal performance?  It's NO ONE'S fault that DYWD is the top of the pole for Dennis.

That said I still don't want to see video of LIVING members...unless they're right in front of the big screen...on stage...performing with the Beach Boys.

{I put Bruce in brackets because I doubt he has much of a say or a vote on matters of this nature...so to toss him in to the blame mix is really not fair is it?}

But I can't seem to shake the tacky feeling. And what do you honestly think of my question, if (heaven forbid) a living non-M&B BB member (who vocalized major disappointment/sadness about being squeezed out of the BBs) passes away... would it then be ok for a M&B video tribute to start appearing for that member too? IMO, it defies common sense to even think of it. How would Mike introduce the video? "Here's the member who recently very, very much wanted to continue playing in the BBs... but now that he's passed away and isn't here anymore, let's pay tribute to his talents and play this video to recreate his existence." Sorry, but it just feels gross to think about. Am I off base?

And if we can agree that this is a ridiculous scenario, I don't see how it's too terribly different from currently playing video tributes to two fallen band members (in particular, members who I feel certain would have objected to how C50 ended, and found the current situation unthinkable and inappropriate).

I think I am pretty safe in saying Dennis would not be happy that Mike uses his image on stage today. Carl I'm not sure.
So, when Brian & Al were there that was ok?  That would make Dennis and maybe Carl, happy? Am I getting this right? Some of you people are never happy, are you?
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2015, 07:03:48 PM »

Big difference. The C50 was a celebration of all things Beach Boys with surviving members signing up. Besides, my comment relates more to the Mike-Dennis relationship. My opinion, and only my opinion, is Dennis would have been ok with it for the C50 because Brian, Al and Dave were involved. Due to the strained relationship he had with Mike I can't imagine him being happy after 2012 myself.

Just saying.

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I'll also say this. Anyone who goes to a Beach Boys show has probably been disappointed about some aspect since the beginning. I've read enough here over the years. Brian wasn't there, Stamo's was there, Bruce clapped/ adjusted his mic too much. Mike pointed at he ladies like a dirty old man, Dennis was drunk/ absent, Carl was drunk, my favorite song wasn't on the set list, Bruce butchered God Only Knows, F**kin Barbara Ann again.

Sound familiar?

Why shouldn't fans be able to critique aspects both good and bad in their opinion. We know people in the loop read here so sometimes it can be a win-win.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2015, 07:27:34 PM »

Pretty weak falsetto from Jeff on this one. Is this typical lately
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2015, 07:38:17 PM »

I hope it was an off night.  Hard to keep THAT up forever.  Where would they...Brian and now the Beach Boys...be w/o him?  Vocally I think, at this point Jeff has the toughest job.  Can'r whisper or fake your way through that.
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