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« Reply #125 on: January 17, 2015, 01:34:30 PM »

As a witness to Landy's first AND second eras, as well as his time with Melinda, I can tell you that milieu therapy was needed for Brian to be able to break the self-destructive patterns he had established. The problem that occurred with Landy the first time was that he became greedy financially and was sacked. The second time he did a solid job using milieu therapy to detox Brian and to help him to establish healthy habits. The rub was that Dr. Landy thought he knew more about psychotropic medications than he really did, and a toxic mix caused very serious health problems for Brian as he got into his late 40s and 50s. Melinda, to her credit, saw the warning I gave the people who needed to separate Landy and Brian, and took that warning seriously. The guardianship was a legal status NOT a psychiatric status. Landy had insinuated himself into the medical, social, and most egregiously, the financial part of Brian's life. A team of advocates worked with the late Carl Wilson to "Free Brian." Afterward, the presiding judge required that a conservatorship be established to prevent Landy from returning and to keep Brian's finances and medical situation from further deteriorating. That Melinda Wilson took the conservatorship was needed, because Carl Wilson was caring for his and Brian's mother, who was not well. It is tragic to think that Carl died so young, instead of seeing his family expand. Melinda discharged her conservatorship with the SUPERVISION of the court.  Brian had his conservatorship stopped due to his psychotherapeutic progress and vastly improving physical health. He married Melinda, and their union has lasted nearly 20 years. They have adopted 5 children, who adore their dad. The music progress that Ray Lawlor cites is impressive. But none of it would have happened without David Leaf and his wife Eva, Melinda, and Ray Lawlor and Jerry Weiss. This "circle of support" as we term it in therapy, helped Brian feel safe enough to take risks musically that he never dreamed were possible. This would include playing live, which gave him the tangible and real adoration he needed to be validated for creating gorgeous music, thereby helping him to feel safe and motivated to open the spiritual spigot that he needs to compose all those great songs. Is he still affected by his neurochemical imbalances in his brain? YES. Do these neurochemical imbalances have to hinder him from writing music, playing  live and feeling love of the audience wash over him, and produce and arrange new music? NO! As long as that circle of support, people who love him as he is, not how they want him to be, he will be free to create as his spirituality moves him for as long as he lives.

Thanks for that informative post, Peter! Well put.
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« Reply #126 on: January 17, 2015, 01:36:15 PM »

Thanks Billy...'cause I didn't want to read that kind [kittykat I mean] of response to Peter's addition to the wrap on this subject.  This has been a GREAT thread...and a horror show all rolled into one.  But I do think we now collectively have the up-to-date final word on where Brian is as of January 17, 2015 at 4:36...give or take...est.  [and that place is a pretty good one.  REALLY great actually.]
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« Reply #127 on: January 17, 2015, 01:40:38 PM »

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pMZseigAGek

This is a very informative video.  Any thought that Melinda is a product of Eugene Landy, which I have seen posts that insinuate that, she claims to have faught against Landy from the beginning.  Now, the question of the percent of Brian's songs in his solo albums that he has actually written or produced is an interesting one. I have heard different things from different people on that.  Having said that, it seems that his current management and handlers care a lot about Brian. Weather we agree with everything they do or not. I think even Mike Love would admit that Brian is in a much better place than he was with Landy. Speaking of which, has Mike ever made that comparison?
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« Reply #128 on: January 17, 2015, 01:44:47 PM »

No, Mike just kindly implies that BW is controlled now by prescription meds instead of street drugs. Really loving thing to say to the press.

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Excellent post from Peter. Thanks for the insight.
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« Reply #129 on: January 17, 2015, 01:54:39 PM »

And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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I second this decision. Completely.
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« Reply #130 on: January 17, 2015, 02:02:43 PM »

The thing is...too...This site is what it is because of the folks who come in to post their special gems of unique and REAL information.  And that will continue if dolts are allowed to just spew on everything these guests add to the real conversation?

Gotta keep the pick-pockets at bay...or those who come bearing gifts will simply stay away.  This, off the top of my head, is THE MOST informative thread I've ever seen in all my years of reading Beach Boys related information on-line.  Horse's mouth fact...not opinion, speculation or educated guesses.  Outstanding stuff.

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« Reply #131 on: January 17, 2015, 02:06:35 PM »

Great guy, that Ray Lawlor, violating Brian's doctor/patient confidentiality issues and his privacy. Oh, but he's a well-paid aviation executive with enough time and money to go around chasing after his so-called friend. The friend who no longer apparently speaks to either David Leaf or Van Dyke Parks, for whatever reasons (wonder what happened to those relationships of Brian's). Every time Ray comes on to a thread, a chill comes over and everyone starts talking about beer. Whatever. I guess I have an agenda. He reminds me of Frank Lima, a sycophant of Ray Davies who follows Ray around on various tours and has lunch and dinner with him. Frank also participates in Kinks message boards, but at least he's nice to fans and doesn't try to be high-handed and try to set the record straight. As if he'd know, because he doesn't.

I'm waiting for Mike Love to send me a check. Because every time someone says something vaguely critical of Team Wilson or his friends (who for all anyone knows may have been sent here by Melinda, in exchange for continued access to Brian, or they did it on their own with that thinking in mind), people are accused of being closepersonafriends of Mike Love. Flame away.
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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

*-Oddly enough, I've had a a couple of people accuse me of being Brian-biased AND biased towards Mike. Guess it depends on the season and alignment of planets LOL
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« Reply #132 on: January 17, 2015, 02:08:30 PM »

Great guy, that Ray Lawlor, violating Brian's doctor/patient confidentiality issues and his privacy. Oh, but he's a well-paid aviation executive with enough time and money to go around chasing after his so-called friend. The friend who no longer apparently speaks to either David Leaf or Van Dyke Parks, for whatever reasons (wonder what happened to those relationships of Brian's). Every time Ray comes on to a thread, a chill comes over and everyone starts talking about beer. Whatever. I guess I have an agenda. He reminds me of Frank Lima, a sycophant of Ray Davies who follows Ray around on various tours and has lunch and dinner with him. Frank also participates in Kinks message boards, but at least he's nice to fans and doesn't try to be high-handed and try to set the record straight. As if he'd know, because he doesn't.

I'm waiting for Mike Love to send me a check. Because every time someone says something vaguely critical of Team Wilson or his friends (who for all anyone knows may have been sent here by Melinda, in exchange for continued access to Brian, or they did it on their own with that thinking in mind), people are accused of being closepersonafriends of Mike Love. Flame away.
And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

*-Oddly enough, I've had a a couple of people accuse me of being Brian-biased AND biased towards Mike. Guess it depends on the season and alignment of planets LOL

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« Reply #133 on: January 17, 2015, 02:19:43 PM »

And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

I second this decision. Completely.

Agreed all around.
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« Reply #134 on: January 17, 2015, 02:33:29 PM »

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And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

I second this decision. Completely.

Agreed all around.
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« Reply #135 on: January 17, 2015, 02:34:16 PM »

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« Reply #136 on: January 17, 2015, 02:42:05 PM »

Well that was.......interesting.  Glad to know I am "well paid" and I travel around to meet my "so called friend" and am a Frank Lima sycophant wannabe ! I better have a fresh look at my checking account and delete Brian's phone numbers from my cell phone.

Moronic.  What I will address though is the false accusation that I "violated Brian's doctor/patient confidentiality issues and his privacy.  What I posted, the information about Brian's doctors 'i.e. who they are, is Public Record.  I posted nothing about his therapy or what his medication is ; nor would I ever What rubbish.

 The Board should be about musical discussion and debate, not about the personal lives of these guys and their families. I understand the interest in Brian's story ; it's compelling ; and there can and is intelligent dialoge about his continuing story.

There is a new place that recently opened up by me called Das Biergarten.  Bavarian joint.  I am going there in an hour to have a few well required Haaker Pshoor's , a very nice Bavarian Weissbier.  Cheers KK
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« Reply #137 on: January 17, 2015, 02:44:38 PM »

I don't (rather, can't) drink, but I bow in your general direction and let out a giant 'huzzah'
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« Reply #138 on: January 17, 2015, 02:46:25 PM »

There is a new place that recently opened up by me called Das Biergarten.  Bavarian joint.  I am going there in an hour to have a few well required Haaker Pshoor's , a very nice Bavarian Weissbier.  Cheers KK

Ray, being the executive you are, do you have enough clout to scramble a few jets and send them out to pick some of us up so we can meet you for a few Haaker Pshoor's ?  
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« Reply #139 on: January 17, 2015, 02:48:17 PM »

There is a new place that recently opened up by me called Das Biergarten.  Bavarian joint.  I am going there in an hour to have a few well required Haaker Pshoor's , a very nice Bavarian Weissbier.  Cheers KK

Ray, being the executive you are, do you have enough clout to scramble a few jets and send them out to pick some of us up so we can meet you for a few Haaker Pshoor's ?  

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« Reply #140 on: January 17, 2015, 02:50:20 PM »

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« Reply #141 on: January 17, 2015, 02:53:03 PM »

SS beer convention 2015.
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« Reply #142 on: January 17, 2015, 02:55:10 PM »

SS beer convention 2015.
Stellar idea. Somewhere warm please ! But the beer must be cold. And no godda...mn Bud Lights !
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« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2015, 03:03:41 PM »

SS beer convention 2015.
Stellar idea. Somewhere warm please ! But the beer must be cold. And no godda...mn Bud Lights !

But BUT what do you have against Belgian/Brazilian beer?
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« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2015, 03:14:14 PM »

I'm gonna stow away in the luggage compartment, as long as airport security doesn't have the 'special' dogs nearby...
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« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2015, 03:15:47 PM »

SS beer convention 2015.
Stellar idea. Somewhere warm please ! But the beer must be cold. And no godda...mn Bud Lights !

But BUT what do you have against Belgian/Brazilian beer?

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« Reply #146 on: January 17, 2015, 03:18:32 PM »

Great guy, that Ray Lawlor, violating Brian's doctor/patient confidentiality issues and his privacy. Oh, but he's a well-paid aviation executive with enough time and money to go around chasing after his so-called friend. The friend who no longer apparently speaks to either David Leaf or Van Dyke Parks, for whatever reasons (wonder what happened to those relationships of Brian's). Every time Ray comes on to a thread, a chill comes over and everyone starts talking about beer. Whatever. I guess I have an agenda. He reminds me of Frank Lima, a sycophant of Ray Davies who follows Ray around on various tours and has lunch and dinner with him. Frank also participates in Kinks message boards, but at least he's nice to fans and doesn't try to be high-handed and try to set the record straight. As if he'd know, because he doesn't.

I'm waiting for Mike Love to send me a check. Because every time someone says something vaguely critical of Team Wilson or his friends (who for all anyone knows may have been sent here by Melinda, in exchange for continued access to Brian, or they did it on their own with that thinking in mind), people are accused of being closepersonafriends of Mike Love. Flame away.
And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

*-Oddly enough, I've had a a couple of people accuse me of being Brian-biased AND biased towards Mike. Guess it depends on the season and alignment of planets LOL

Billy, I believe that weirdly aligned planet was a giant hairball coughed toward Earth, but you nuked it and saved the day.  Now sycophant that I am, I'm trying to kiss ass and get in line to have Ray send me a G-V, too.
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« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2015, 03:22:43 PM »

I'm gonna stow away in the luggage compartment, as long as airport security doesn't have the 'special' dogs nearby...
Talk about hotboxing....
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« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2015, 03:25:13 PM »

Great guy, that Ray Lawlor, violating Brian's doctor/patient confidentiality issues and his privacy. Oh, but he's a well-paid aviation executive with enough time and money to go around chasing after his so-called friend. The friend who no longer apparently speaks to either David Leaf or Van Dyke Parks, for whatever reasons (wonder what happened to those relationships of Brian's). Every time Ray comes on to a thread, a chill comes over and everyone starts talking about beer. Whatever. I guess I have an agenda. He reminds me of Frank Lima, a sycophant of Ray Davies who follows Ray around on various tours and has lunch and dinner with him. Frank also participates in Kinks message boards, but at least he's nice to fans and doesn't try to be high-handed and try to set the record straight. As if he'd know, because he doesn't.

I'm waiting for Mike Love to send me a check. Because every time someone says something vaguely critical of Team Wilson or his friends (who for all anyone knows may have been sent here by Melinda, in exchange for continued access to Brian, or they did it on their own with that thinking in mind), people are accused of being closepersonafriends of Mike Love. Flame away.
And that, my friends, is the very last post you will EVER see of this asshat. I don't care if somebody spams my PM box begging for his/her/it to be reinstated. It will NEVER happen. KittyKat is now at the bottom of the litter box and will never return.

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In case anyone asks, KittyKat's banning has nothing to do with being critical of Brian*; he/she/it has been asking for it for well over a year now (literally...I've never had anybody *dare* me to ban them before). It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to actively try to start sh*t, like this feral freak has done pretty much since registration. This was more along the lines of a 'last straw' type of deal.

*-Oddly enough, I've had a a couple of people accuse me of being Brian-biased AND biased towards Mike. Guess it depends on the season and alignment of planets LOL

Billy, I believe that weirdly aligned planet was a giant hairball coughed toward Earth, but you nuked it and saved the day.  Now sycophant that I am, I'm trying to kiss ass and get in line to have Ray send me a G-V, too.

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« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2015, 03:25:46 PM »

I'm gonna stow away in the luggage compartment, as long as airport security doesn't have the 'special' dogs nearby...
Talk about hotboxing....
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