John Stamos mentions Carl in AARP

[runnersdialzero]

bgas - thanks for that!  My favorite section near the end of the article..."When I (Stamos) first sat in with the Beach Boys, I'd stand behind him (Carl) and he would say, "Watch my elbow." I would follow his timing in that way." Wow!  What a great teacher and mentor Carl was. 

Maybe Carl just thought he had really nice elbows? Mine aren't too bad, either.

[CenturyDeprived]

I love the drum sounds in the Brother era, with Dennis behind the kit in particular.  Fat, deep, sparse.  In the gut.

IMO, 2 of the best drum sounds produced by Dennis (not sure if he's playing on them though): "Moonshine" + "Stevie".

Wasn't "Stevie" produced by Dennis + Brian? I think that's what I remember reading, and maybe it's my imagination, but I think I can hear Dennis' POB-esque drum sound on that track.

[c-man]

I love the drum sounds in the Brother era, with Dennis behind the kit in particular.  Fat, deep, sparse.  In the gut.

IMO, 2 of the best drum sounds produced by Dennis (not sure if he's playing on them though): "Moonshine" + "Stevie".

Wasn't "Stevie" produced by Dennis + Brian? I think that's what I remember reading, and maybe it's my imagination, but I think I can hear Dennis' POB-esque drum sound on that track.

Yes - Dennis drummed on "Stevie" and co-produced it with Garby Leon. Killer track that I wish would be released. "Moonshine" has Bobby Figueroa on drums.

[CenturyDeprived]

I love the drum sounds in the Brother era, with Dennis behind the kit in particular.  Fat, deep, sparse.  In the gut.

IMO, 2 of the best drum sounds produced by Dennis (not sure if he's playing on them though): "Moonshine" + "Stevie".

Wasn't "Stevie" produced by Dennis + Brian? I think that's what I remember reading, and maybe it's my imagination, but I think I can hear Dennis' POB-esque drum sound on that track.

Yes - Dennis drummed on "Stevie" and co-produced it with Garby Leon. Killer track that I wish would be released. "Moonshine" has Bobby Figueroa on drums.

Thanks again c-man for that awesome bit of info. "Stevie" not being released is a bit puzzling at this point, but I have no doubt it will see official release someday. Not only is it a killer composition, but seeing as it's the only (I think?) properly recorded studio track of Dennis producing a song by his brother Brian, it holds a special fascination, even though it was recorded during super rough times for the brothers. That might be the reason it is unreleased.

Do you hear that distinctive Dennis drum production style (with a hint of the POB sound/production technique) shine through on that track too? I don't know if I'd have put two and two together like that if I hadn't known that it was produced by Dennis, and maybe it's just me hearing what I want to hear, but I think the sound does come through.

Oh, and I love that a thread about Uncle Jesse turned into a discussion about "Stevie"...

[PS]

OK...but I referred to the 4 Seasons, Dovells/Len Barry and Dion.  I was talking about the 60s.

Large part of that credit (besides Bob Crewe) goes to ace studio man, the great Buddy Salzman, the Hal Blaine of the east coast. The toms on the Seasons classic singles give tremendous drive to Frankie's soaring reach. Those records still sound terribly exciting - like Dawn and Ronnie, Big Man in Town, Walk Like a Man, etc. Fantastic records.

From Eugene Chadbourne's bio on ALLMUSIC:

"When it comes to the Four Seasons, however, Saltzman seems to have been a favorite of the group's creator, Frankie Valli. The subsequent string of hits features the drummer's most aggressive and bombastic work, inspiring the following description of Saltzman over cyberspace: "God as a drummer." The point is well-taken. If God played drums, he most certainly would be sensitive to dynamics."

[Micha]

When people are praising the production of MIA and KTSA, maybe it's time to admit Brian knew what he was doing.

What's that supposed to mean?

[Lee Marshall]

PS...It makes me wonder...and I did the other day while this reparte was happening..."I wonder what Brian might have done if he'd recorded an album or two in the east back prior to Pet Sounds?

Sure would have had a whole different dynamic to it.