SIP Could Have Sold Much Better As Is

[bringahorseinhere?]

it may be Korean, but its still better than the 92' Cd version for sure on the ears...

RickB

[mikeddonn]

A lot of us would love to have it to complete the set of Beach Boys vinyl!

[runnersdialzero]

I really doubt it sounds better than the CD.

[Micha]

I really doubt it sounds better than the CD.

Still I'd like to have that rather than the CD!

[CenturyDeprived]

I really doubt it sounds better than the CD.

If it was mastered differently, specifically for vinyl, it's entirely possible that it is an improvement. Maybe slightly, but I would think it could sound better. I wonder how many copies of vinyl were made and still exist.

[runnersdialzero]

I really doubt it sounds better than the CD.

If it was mastered differently, specifically for vinyl, it's entirely possible that it is an improvement. Maybe slightly, but I would think it could sound better. I wonder how many copies of vinyl were made and still exist.

Albums are almost never mastered differently for vinyl than CD barring some specific processing in the way of filters etc. that have to be applied because otherwise the vinyl would be unplayable. 99 times out of 100, if a CD master is limited/compressed into Hades, the vinyl master will be, too. The people behind these things just don't give enough of a f*** and often, if they do, it's in the name of $$$$$$ (i.e. "specifically remastered for vinyl! It also costs 40 dollars! Why couldn't we do this right the first time? Because f*** you, that's why!). Vinyl is not an accurate way of presenting the sounds that were recorded.

Anyway, I don't think SIP was THAT loud, was it? I remember opening a waveform from a song from the album once, God knows why, and saying, "Huh, this is pretty loud for 1992," but only in a relatively-loud-for-a-Beach-Boys-record sort of way, not "COOL IT'S AS LOUD AS THE LAST SLIPKNOT ALBUM" sort of way.

... not that it doesn't sound like total dicks to the bricks anyway, but y'know.

[job]

Yeah, it's not THAT loud.  Also, yes it is missing SOME depth, but the low-end comes thru pretty damn well in my BMW.

[halblaineisgood]

Vinyl is not an accurate way of presenting the sounds that were recorded.

That's why it's perfect playback format for SIP. All the little flaws and inaccurate reproductions of sound via a vinyl LP lend a humanity and earthiness to the otherwise lifeless sterility as recorded. With Summer In Paradise you don't really want accurate reproduction.... 

[runnersdialzero]

You don't really want accurate reproduction. 

You probably could have left out the word "accurate" and most people would agree with you.

[CenturyDeprived]

You don't really want accurate reproduction. 

You probably could have left out the word "accurate" and most people would agree with you.

 

[CenturyDeprived]

What do you all think would happen first? SIP being reissued (at any point in the future, in an official capacity) on vinyl, or the extended shave-your-legs version of Hey Little Tomboy seeing official release?

[job]

I'll take both gladly.

[Micha]

What do you all think would happen first? SIP being reissued (at any point in the future, in an official capacity) on vinyl, or the extended shave-your-legs version of Hey Little Tomboy seeing official release?

10$ on SIP being reissued on vinyl with Hey Little Tomboy as bonus track.

[phirnis]

What do you all think would happen first? SIP being reissued (at any point in the future, in an official capacity) on vinyl, or the extended shave-your-legs version of Hey Little Tomboy seeing official release?

10$ on SIP being reissued on vinyl with Hey Little Tomboy as bonus track.

1990s rap version of Hey Little Tomboy (featuring John Stamos). 

[runnersdialzero]

What do you all think would happen first? SIP being reissued (at any point in the future, in an official capacity) on vinyl, or the extended shave-your-legs version of Hey Little Tomboy seeing official release?

10$ on SIP being reissued on vinyl with Hey Little Tomboy as bonus track.

Yes. With Masterpiece (FINALLY) being issues as disc 2, all as part of a Summer In Paradise deluxe edition.

[Lonely Summer]

What do you all think would happen first? SIP being reissued (at any point in the future, in an official capacity) on vinyl, or the extended shave-your-legs version of Hey Little Tomboy seeing official release?

10$ on SIP being reissued on vinyl with Hey Little Tomboy as bonus track.

1990s rap version of Hey Little Tomboy (featuring John Stamos). 

singing to one of those Full House girls?

[runnersdialzero]

1990s rap version of Hey Little Tomboy (featuring John Stamos). 

singing to one of those Full House girls?

None of the girls on that show were tomboys. GOD, do you even WATCH Full House? 

[Lee Marshall]

I've decided...after really thinking about it since this thread began.  Summer In Paradise could have sold TONS better IF it has dropped all of the songs hitherto employed and had instead issued something completely different, timely, meaningful and worthwhile. 

Sorry...but there just isn't enough input from ALL of the Beach Boys...and way too much from guests and those who really aren't composers or arrangers.  It's almost a solo albun.  WRONG move. 

Great album cover though. 

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

I've decided...after really thinking about it since this thread began.  Summer In Paradise could have sold TONS better IF it has dropped all of the songs hitherto employed and had instead issued something completely different, timely, meaningful and worthwhile. 

Sorry...but there just isn't enough input from ALL of the Beach Boys...and way too much from guests and those who really aren't composers or arrangers.  It's almost a solo albun.  WRONG move. 

Great album cover though. 

Everyone always says that. Am I the only one who thinks the album cover is tacky as hell and generic?

As for the topic at hand...no. You can't polish a turd. And the beach boys weren't cool enough to move records at the time, especially without Brian.

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

Summer In Paradise could have sold TONS better IF it has dropped all of the songs hitherto employed and had instead issued something completely different, timely, meaningful and worthwhile. 

Yes.

[Lee Marshall]

Mujan...I was trying to find a positive in amongst the rubble.  Turd polishing is rather a waste of time.  As is spray painting them.  And THAT is what we've pretty much done in this thread. .. ... ...Spray paint turds.

[Bean Bag]

Sure, it would have been WAY better with Brian -- but he really wasn't in a great place either.  I forget all the timing of this... but I picture Brian in the early 90s as hopped up on Landy-pills or something.  Too thin, wearing a sweat band, and wearing leg warmers.

Just wrong.  But yes... it would have been a zillion times better.

[Bean Bag]

Great album cover though.  

Everyone always says that. Am I the only one who thinks the album cover is tacky as hell and generic?

No, I'm with you on that Mujan.  While it is impressive artwork that catches the eye with its depth and detail -- it's wandered awfully close to kitsch-ville.  It only needs a rainbow... and there'd be world peace.

I desperately want to see what's going on above sea level.  Look at the island.  But we're submerged, forced below.



Mike, surrounded by models in bikinis, would have been better.  That's basically what this album is about.  The visual attempt of "depth" is ironic and a detriment.  

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Great album cover though.  

Everyone always says that. Am I the only one who thinks the album cover is tacky as hell and generic?

No, I'm with you on that Mujan.  While it is impressive artwork that catches the eye with its depth and detail -- it's wandered awfully close to kitsch-ville.  It only needs a rainbow... and there'd be world peace.

I desperately want to see what's going on above sea level.  Look at the island.  But we're submerged, forced below.



Mike, surrounded by models in bikinis, would have been better.  That's basically what this album is about.  The visual attempt of "depth" is ironic and a detriment.  

Thank you. Yes, it looks like the cover of some reading rainbow or eye-witness science video about the ocean. And that awful Beach Boys font would make anything look kitschy and dated. Who designed that, and why has it become the standard ever since?

I agree--Mike Love, with a ring or two on each finger and an outrageously younger woman on each arm would have been a far more accurate cover for this atrocity. It's basically his solo album anyway...

[bringahorseinhere?]

I believe you can blame Dean Torrence for that logo, going back to the '15 big ones' period artwork....

I actually like the logo myself.  may even get it tattooe'd!

RickB