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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2014, 06:53:25 PM »

Nutty Jerry could not be reached for comment.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2014, 07:12:04 PM »

These tickets cost more than the C50.

 Grin   Another myth falls by the wayside. In this case, by about 3-fold.

Sorry but it`s no myth that Mike and Bruce`s concert tickets are, on average, much cheaper than C50. Below are the ticket prices for the majorty of shows that they did over the summer (obviously their busiest period):

Epsom - $55
Newmarket - $50-55
Newbury - $40
Mad Garden Festival - $55
Marbella - $22
York - $35-55
The Great Auditorium - $45-60
Freeman Stage - $40-70
American Music Theater - $70
Ohio State Fair - $30
Ventura County Fair - $12
Mountain Winery - $35-95
Sioux Empire Fair - Free with fair admission
Ashley for the Arts Festival - $5 (20,000 attendance)
Ferro Pavilion - $25-100
Freedom Hill - $10-69
Pomona - $20-50
Sun Center - $49-75
Columbus Park - $10 (10,000 attendance)
All American Summer Concert Series - Free
Hampton Beach - $37-?
Newport - $39-65
Indian Ranch - $37-54
Bureau County Fair - $27-37 (8,000 attendance)
Conner Prairie Amphitheater - $23-28 (three shows)
Britt Pavilion - $43
Casino amphitheater - $35
Silver Reef Casino - $74 - 89
Salem State Fair - Free with fair ticket - $35
Foellinger Theater - $39-99
Honeywell Center - $29-100
Wayne County Fair - $15-25
Utah State Fair - $7-10
The Pavilion - $35-?
The Carson Center - $30-135
Bicentennial Weekend Celebration - Free
Diamond Jo Casino - $39-99
Surf Ballroom - $45-55
Cannery - $29-?
Humphrey`s - $76
Big Fresno Fair - $18-25
Majestic - $45-65
Biloxi - $39-59


There are some more expensive venues in there but I don`t think anyone could deny that many of the ticket prices (especially at the better attended venues) are very reasonable and certainly much cheaper than C50.

Which is as it should be as one is only getting 1/5th of the original band.  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2014, 09:23:24 PM »



Guy camera right is clearly Bruce Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2014, 09:53:48 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2014, 10:42:50 PM »

These tickets cost more than the C50.

 Grin   Another myth falls by the wayside. In this case, by about 3-fold.

Sorry but it`s no myth that Mike and Bruce`s concert tickets are, on average, much cheaper than C50. Below are the ticket prices for the majorty of shows that they did over the summer (obviously their busiest period):

Epsom - $55
Newmarket - $50-55
Newbury - $40
Mad Garden Festival - $55
Marbella - $22
York - $35-55
The Great Auditorium - $45-60
Freeman Stage - $40-70
American Music Theater - $70
Ohio State Fair - $30
Ventura County Fair - $12
Mountain Winery - $35-95
Sioux Empire Fair - Free with fair admission
Ashley for the Arts Festival - $5 (20,000 attendance)
Ferro Pavilion - $25-100
Freedom Hill - $10-69
Pomona - $20-50
Sun Center - $49-75
Columbus Park - $10 (10,000 attendance)
All American Summer Concert Series - Free
Hampton Beach - $37-?
Newport - $39-65
Indian Ranch - $37-54
Bureau County Fair - $27-37 (8,000 attendance)
Conner Prairie Amphitheater - $23-28 (three shows)
Britt Pavilion - $43
Casino amphitheater - $35
Silver Reef Casino - $74 - 89
Salem State Fair - Free with fair ticket - $35
Foellinger Theater - $39-99
Honeywell Center - $29-100
Wayne County Fair - $15-25
Utah State Fair - $7-10
The Pavilion - $35-?
The Carson Center - $30-135
Bicentennial Weekend Celebration - Free
Diamond Jo Casino - $39-99
Surf Ballroom - $45-55
Cannery - $29-?
Humphrey`s - $76
Big Fresno Fair - $18-25
Majestic - $45-65
Biloxi - $39-59


There are some more expensive venues in there but I don`t think anyone could deny that many of the ticket prices (especially at the better attended venues) are very reasonable and certainly much cheaper than C50.

Which is as it should be as one is only getting 1/5th of the original band.  Grin

Absolutely right.

That`s the way it should be and IS. Certainly no myth.
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2014, 12:15:37 AM »


Are you willing to see Mike and Bruce perform at Sunrise Theatre for 315.53 dollars for example?

Don't see that this has previously been mentioned, and there is no source listed, but this is clearly the site of a ticket re-seller. Consequently, the prices listed are inflated, but nevertheless manage to irritate some who want to believe that they're what everybody had to pay. These Beach Boys are a bunch of bandits!
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2014, 03:38:41 AM »

I am disappointed to see M&B are using false advertising to promote their show:



Link: https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=Sunrise&prod=3248

The show is sold out - how many people have bought their tickets believing they will see Brian, Al and Dave? Is this M&B's new modus operandi?

The advertising is the responsibility of the venue, not the band or BRI. The bands management provide the venue with approved promo material. Not their fault if the venues PR dept. stray from that. So, no, M&B are not using false advertising. Next.
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2014, 06:35:37 AM »

I am disappointed to see M&B are using false advertising to promote their show:



Link: https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=Sunrise&prod=3248

The show is sold out - how many people have bought their tickets believing they will see Brian, Al and Dave? Is this M&B's new modus operandi?

The advertising is the responsibility of the venue, not the band or BRI. The bands management provide the venue with approved promo material. Not their fault if the venues PR dept. stray from that. So, no, M&B are not using false advertising. Next.

So then Mike's people have contacted the venue to correct the false statement?  Mike hasn't been shy in the past about correcting misinformation, so I trust there is no reason he would let this one linger.
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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2014, 06:37:41 AM »

I am disappointed to see M&B are using false advertising to promote their show:



Link: https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=Sunrise&prod=3248

The show is sold out - how many people have bought their tickets believing they will see Brian, Al and Dave? Is this M&B's new modus operandi?

The advertising is the responsibility of the venue, not the band or BRI. The bands management provide the venue with approved promo material. Not their fault if the venues PR dept. stray from that. So, no, M&B are not using false advertising. Next.

So then Mike's people have contacted the venue to correct the false statement?  Mike hasn't been shy in the past about correcting misinformation, so I trust there is no reason he would let this one linger.

Given that they read this forum, yes, they likely will very soon, as they have in the past. But of course, that would spoil the overall credo of certain posters here of busting a gut to find something to bitch about concerning Mike.
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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2014, 06:48:11 AM »

Well there does seem a pattern of M&B shows being billed as C50 shows! You should care because you threw a fit over BW's Tulsa show over imagined mis-reputation of the setlist.....



Now, because I'm a picky SOB, if I'd been daft enough to fly over and make the gig, I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue for lying in the write up. Tracks from his new album ? I don't see any. Do you ?

False advertising, sirrah. False advertising, and I will have satisfaction.

It's a solid GH set, but the first show in the NPP tour ? My sides, they are splitting.  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2014, 06:59:27 AM »

I am disappointed to see M&B are using false advertising to promote their show:



Link: https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=Sunrise&prod=3248

The show is sold out - how many people have bought their tickets believing they will see Brian, Al and Dave? Is this M&B's new modus operandi?

The advertising is the responsibility of the venue, not the band or BRI. The bands management provide the venue with approved promo material. Not their fault if the venues PR dept. stray from that. So, no, M&B are not using false advertising. Next.

So then Mike's people have contacted the venue to correct the false statement?  Mike hasn't been shy in the past about correcting misinformation, so I trust there is no reason he would let this one linger.

Given that they read this forum, yes, they likely will very soon, as they have in the past. But of course, that would spoil the overall credo of certain posters here of busting a gut to find something to bitch about concerning Mike.

Andrew, I try to remain impartial in all of this, but people like you make it difficult.  As SB just pointed out, just a couple of days ago you had this to say about a *perceived* inaccuracy:

"Now, because I'm a picky SOB, if I'd been daft enough to fly over and make the gig, I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue for lying in the write up. Tracks from his new album ? I don't see any. Do you ?

False advertising, sirrah. False advertising, and I will have satisfaction."

Quite a rant, suing, lying false advertising, etc.  But that was about a Brian Wilson show.  Now that it is a Mike Love show, no big deal, it happens...and Mike is an angel, he will take care of it in short order.  As you seem to be the primary defender of Mike on the board, the double standard makes it tough to take seriously.

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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2014, 07:56:05 AM »

Well there does seem a pattern of M&B shows being billed as C50 shows! You should care because you threw a fit over BW's Tulsa show over imagined mis-reputation of the setlist.....

Now, because I'm a picky SOB, if I'd been daft enough to fly over and make the gig, I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue for lying in the write up. Tracks from his new album ? I don't see any. Do you ?

False advertising, sirrah. False advertising, and I will have satisfaction.

It's a solid GH set, but the first show in the NPP tour ? My sides, they are splitting.  Grin
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There could be, because of the internet, photos, and old ads and photos floating around that become misused by secondary market ticket sales people, who are not savvy about the touring arrangements and who, just use what they find, or who don't use what they are told to use. 

And, the errors can become discovered, either by fans, such as you or me, and become forwarded to people who can fix the error.  I've seen old (circa 2004 or 2005 ) band lineup photos used by venues, such as community theaters who just don't "know any better" and it doesn't mean any more than a mistake or miscommunication on the part of someone who might not be "au courant" as they should be.

This might be inside the text box. Sorry. 

Not really.  LOL
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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2014, 08:57:00 AM »

It's happening again. What a déjà vu feeling.


Picture of Mike Love with Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks. Tagline: Join the 50th anniversary celebrations!



What really gets me are these lines:

The Beach Boys officially broke up in 1998 shortly after Carl Wilson's death, however Mike Love and Bruce Johnston maintain the rights to the name and continue to tour with their own band as The Beach Boys. In December 2011, the group's five remaining members - Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David - reformed in celebration of their 50th anniversary of the group's creation, announcing a new album and a 50-date international tour.

Unsuspecting concert goers believe they will see Brian, Al and David, but end up at a gig with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston and lesser known musicians for hire.

The tickets are fairly expensive:



Can this be considered a scam? It seems so deliberate.

Link: http://www.niagara-falls-theatre.com/theaters/casino-avalon/beach-boys.php
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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2014, 09:17:06 AM »

Nm
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2014, 09:18:28 AM »

It's happening again. What a déjà vu feeling.


Picture of Mike Love with Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks. Tagline: Join the 50th anniversary celebrations!



What really gets me are these lines:

The Beach Boys officially broke up in 1998 shortly after Carl Wilson's death, however Mike Love and Bruce Johnston maintain the rights to the name and continue to tour with their own band as The Beach Boys. In December 2011, the group's five remaining members - Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David - reformed in celebration of their 50th anniversary of the group's creation, announcing a new album and a 50-date international tour.

Unsuspecting concert goers believe they will see Brian, Al and David, but end up at a gig with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston and lesser known musicians for hire.

The tickets are fairly expensive:



Can this be considered a scam?

Link: http://www.niagara-falls-theatre.com/theaters/casino-avalon/beach-boys.php
I doubt it is a scam.  And, I've seen them (The Touring Band) at that venue. No one was expecting a reunion show.  There have been ads or photos with old 1964-ish photos attached to ads or blurbs of band history. These didn't necessarily represent the "look" of the band at the time, but somehow was used as part of an ad.  This looks like background history.

Remember, the casino business is primary, the entertainment is secondary, even if it attracts multi-purpose visitors.

Those tickets were less expensive when first offered for sale. Closer to the show, things get more pricey.  
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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2014, 09:28:55 AM »

Mike and Bruce benefit from these inaccuracies. It took me 5 minutes of googleing to find them. Why don't Mike and Bruce's wives and managers do the same? Is it really that hard? Why are they not interested in people's perception of The Beach Boys? Seeing The Beach Boys in concert should be a positive experience.

The Beach Boys are turning into Scamerica's Band.  Sad
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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2014, 09:29:58 AM »

It's happening again. What a déjà vu feeling.


Picture of Mike Love with Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks. Tagline: Join the 50th anniversary celebrations!



What really gets me are these lines:

The Beach Boys officially broke up in 1998 shortly after Carl Wilson's death, however Mike Love and Bruce Johnston maintain the rights to the name and continue to tour with their own band as The Beach Boys. In December 2011, the group's five remaining members - Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David - reformed in celebration of their 50th anniversary of the group's creation, announcing a new album and a 50-date international tour.

Unsuspecting concert goers believe they will see Brian, Al and David, but end up at a gig with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston and lesser known musicians for hire.

The tickets are fairly expensive:



Can this be considered a scam? It seems so deliberate.

Link: http://www.niagara-falls-theatre.com/theaters/casino-avalon/beach-boys.php

Like the original stubhub listing at the start of this thread, the linked site is a resale site and says so right on the disclaimer. It is not affiliated with the venue or artist. The prices simply represent what some broker in Des  Moines thinks he can get for tix as of today. As such the prices listed are completely irrelevant to this discussion
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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2014, 09:33:53 AM »

Mike and Bruce benefit from these inaccuracies. It took me 5 minutes of googleing to find them. Why don't Mike and Bruce's wives and managers do the same? Is it really that hard? Why are they not interested in people's perception of The Beach Boys? Seeing The Beach Boys in concert should be a positive experience.
 
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Mike and Bruce benefit from these inaccuracies. It took me 5 minutes of googleing to find them. Why don't Mike and Bruce's wives and managers do the same? Is it really that hard? Why are they not interested in people's perception of The Beach Boys? Seeing The Beach Boys in concert should be a positive experience.

The Beach Boys are turning into Scamerica's Band.  Sad
The Beach Boys are turning into Scamerica's Band.  Sad


No they don't, only the reseller ( "scalper") does.
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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2014, 09:45:32 AM »

It's happening again. What a déjà vu feeling.


Picture of Mike Love with Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks. Tagline: Join the 50th anniversary celebrations!



What really gets me are these lines:

The Beach Boys officially broke up in 1998 shortly after Carl Wilson's death, however Mike Love and Bruce Johnston maintain the rights to the name and continue to tour with their own band as The Beach Boys. In December 2011, the group's five remaining members - Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David - reformed in celebration of their 50th anniversary of the group's creation, announcing a new album and a 50-date international tour.

Unsuspecting concert goers believe they will see Brian, Al and David, but end up at a gig with Mike Love, Bruce Johnston and lesser known musicians for hire.

The tickets are fairly expensive:



Can this be considered a scam? It seems so deliberate.

Link: http://www.niagara-falls-theatre.com/theaters/casino-avalon/beach-boys.php

Again, you should probably direct your complaints to the venue. Tell them you want to complain that though the the blurb was accurate, you managed to take it wrong. Who loves you? Cam.
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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2014, 09:47:45 AM »

I am disappointed to see M&B are using false advertising to promote their show:



Link: https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=Sunrise&prod=3248

The show is sold out - how many people have bought their tickets believing they will see Brian, Al and Dave? Is this M&B's new modus operandi?

The advertising is the responsibility of the venue, not the band or BRI. The bands management provide the venue with approved promo material. Not their fault if the venues PR dept. stray from that. So, no, M&B are not using false advertising. Next.

So then Mike's people have contacted the venue to correct the false statement?  Mike hasn't been shy in the past about correcting misinformation, so I trust there is no reason he would let this one linger.

Given that they read this forum, yes, they likely will very soon, as they have in the past. But of course, that would spoil the overall credo of certain posters here of busting a gut to find something to bitch about concerning Mike.

Andrew, I try to remain impartial in all of this, but people like you make it difficult.  As SB just pointed out, just a couple of days ago you had this to say about a *perceived* inaccuracy:

"Now, because I'm a picky SOB, if I'd been daft enough to fly over and make the gig, I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue for lying in the write up. Tracks from his new album ? I don't see any. Do you ?

False advertising, sirrah. False advertising, and I will have satisfaction."

Quite a rant, suing, lying false advertising, etc.  But that was about a Brian Wilson show.  Now that it is a Mike Love show, no big deal, it happens...and Mike is an angel, he will take care of it in short order.  As you seem to be the primary defender of Mike on the board, the double standard makes it tough to take seriously.



Andrew doesn't need my help but maybe you missed this part of his quote "I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue".
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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2014, 10:11:44 AM »

 
Mike and Bruce benefit from these inaccuracies. It took me 5 minutes of googleing to find them. Why don't Mike and Bruce's wives and managers do the same? Is it really that hard? Why are they not interested in people's perception of The Beach Boys? Seeing The Beach Boys in concert should be a positive experience.

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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2014, 10:59:26 AM »

This rider says the M&B have to approve all tour promotion beforehand....
 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/beach-boys-rider
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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2014, 11:06:47 AM »

That thing's got to be 25 years old now.
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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2014, 11:10:32 AM »

They need to fix that, and quick. I don't think the advert was done to intentionally mislead, but that's an error that cannot and should not be left unfixed.

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Many of the leaked riders on Smoking Gun are indeed old and in some cases, outdated. The picture certainly is.

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Very old, in this case. It requests Copenhagen chewing tobacco , and nobody in the band dips to my knowledge. Also requests Marlboro Lights, which havent been sold under that name in about five years.
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2014, 11:19:35 AM »

Which makes it doubly unreasonable! Must Bruce demand vintage cigarettes!?!?!? He doesn't even smoke them, he just tears them up in front of a shocked teenage girl who sobs intermittently as he sharply lectures them all about how it was just to make sure they were paying attention!
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