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I don't know if it was posted but the Facebook site has a trailer up. Unfortunately I can't link it here...
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Quote from: Rocker on January 13, 2015, 11:14:59 AM
I don't know if it was posted but the Facebook site has a trailer up. Unfortunately I can't link it here...
In the subtley named thread "Finally!!!":
Quote from: groganb on January 13, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/thewreckingcrew/
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Denny's motivation to credit his father and other Wrecking Crew musicians is indeed powerful. I admire his perseverance, even if it clashes with the facts, which of course is not desirable. I sympathise with his obvious frustration at the lack of support for making this movie and I'm relieved it's finally coming out.
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Quote from: John Stivaktas on January 20, 2015, 04:17:21 AM
Denny's motivation to credit his father and other Wrecking Crew musicians is indeed powerful. I admire his perseverance, even if it clashes with the facts, which of course is not desirable. I sympathise with his obvious frustration at the lack of support for making this movie and I'm relieved it's finally coming out.
All entirely laudable, and long overdue... but maybe he should have asked someone
other than the musicians
(say, the Stebbins dude, or Craig) about their claims to have played on this or that hit, at least in the BB cosmos. That it took him over two years to remove three spurious AFM sheets despite being reminded frequently that they were not BB sessions tells me he's not an entirely impartial individual.
Further problem is... now the DVD is, essentially, out there, the canards are pretty much set in stone - look, the actual guys who played on the Beach Boys/Monkees/your band of choice here sessions are saying on camera that the bands didn't play on their records ! Must be true !!
Something Jon said a few years ago about all this resonates strongly with me: he stated that we're not in this to win any popularity contests, we just want the truth documented and set down. Problem is, sometimes the truth can be inconvenient, too inconvenient for those involved to accept.
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Re: Somebody Please Slap Denny Tedesco into consciousness!
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on January 20, 2015, 04:59:19 AM
Quote from: John Stivaktas on January 20, 2015, 04:17:21 AM
Denny's motivation to credit his father and other Wrecking Crew musicians is indeed powerful. I admire his perseverance, even if it clashes with the facts, which of course is not desirable. I sympathise with his obvious frustration at the lack of support for making this movie and I'm relieved it's finally coming out.
All entirely laudable, and long overdue... but maybe he should have asked someone
other than the musicians
(say, the Stebbins dude, or Craig) about their claims to have played on this or that hit, at least in the BB cosmos. That it took him over two years to remove three spurious AFM sheets despite being reminded frequently that they were not BB sessions tells me he's not an entirely impartial individual.
Further problem is... now the DVD is, essentially, out there, the canards are pretty much set in stone - look, the actual guys who played on the Beach Boys/Monkees/your band of choice here sessions are saying on camera that the bands didn't play on their records ! Must be true !!
Something Jon said a few years ago about all this resonates strongly with me: he stated that we're not in this to win any popularity contests, we just want the truth documented and set down. Problem is, sometimes the truth can be inconvenient, too inconvenient for those involved to accept.
A big thank you to Andrew, Jon and Mark for — at the very least — staying the course.
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Wonder what will be on the soundtrack
http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/thewreckingcrew?utm_campaign=project5085&utm_source=facebook
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http://youtu.be/ERGw5c-g3p0?t=49s
From the relevant page:
Dean Torrence
: “In mid-late 1962, Jan (Berry) invited Brian Wilson to the studio to hear the finished instrumental track to
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"The studio guys were also able to nail a track in two or three takes compared to The Beach Boys, whom one can assume would have taken much longer." [Debatable].
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Oh, FFS...
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Apologies to rehash this old topic.
Saw the Wrecking Crew film last week in Toronto. If I recall correctly, the only music clip from the Beach Boys used was Fun, Fun, Fun. Also included the video of how the Beach Boys puts a song together (Dennis on the drums, Al on rhythm guitar...) like the Concert version of Little Deuce Coupe, cut just before the beginning of the song and instead playing the intro of FFF. Album covers where the Wrecking Crew played started with Summer Days, and then PS, Today!, and All Summer Long. May have missed others and I don't think I saw Smile. Of course there are many clips with Brian. After the film there was a Q&A with Denny Tedesco but nobody asked questions about the Beach Boys so he didn't address them.
Watching for any suggestion that the Beach Boys "didn't play a note", I didn't get much of that impression and it was more like WC came in when the music got more advanced. That is until an interview clip of Micky Dolenz at the end of the film, where he suggested WC played on almost all the BB hits. Seeing that was a little disappointing. There was also mention of Hal being a better drummer than Dennis. This point did not refer to any specific song.
I'm not an expert by any means and I enjoyed the film overall. Too bad the time didn't really allow in depth analysis of any songs. Hope this "review" is somewhat useful until the film goes into wider release when you can see it for yourselves.
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