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Author Topic: Between 1967 and 1976 what albums/songs did Brian produce for the Beach Boys?  (Read 22802 times)
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« on: October 26, 2014, 10:55:49 PM »

Officially, I'm not sure if Brian is credited as having produced anything after PET SOUNDS and before 15 BIG ONES.  Unofficially, it's clear he had his hand in some sessions during the ensuing years after 1966.  The question is: which albums/songs?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 11:00:50 PM »

some of "Spring/American Spring", a strange version of "Why do fools fall in love", and apparently an unreleased country album..
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 11:15:21 PM »

Officially, I'm not sure if Brian is credited as having produced anything after PET SOUNDS and before 15 BIG ONES.  Unofficially, it's clear he had his hand in some sessions during the ensuing years after 1966.  The question is: which albums/songs?

Check the credits on 20/20, and the relevant tracks as included on 10 Years Of Harmony, the 1993 box set, Endless Harmony and Hawthorne CA. I hear the album's section of this site - Bellagio 10452 - has additional info which, although unofficial, is drawn from most reliable sources (that is, because I damn well say so  Grin ).

May be wrong but I think he produced some ditty called "Good Vibrations"...
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 11:15:48 PM »

He Come Down was produced by Brian.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 11:18:56 PM »

some of "Spring/American Spring", a strange version of "Why do fools fall in love", and apparently an unreleased country album..

Well that's telling me and no mistake. Nearly 40 years a fan & researcher and I never knew those were Beach Boys projects. I'm an utter disgrace to the Researcher's Guild: I shall hand in my badge and credentials forthwith.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 11:20:59 PM »

Well I can say that we know for sure he was credited as the produced of "Child of Winter" from 1974. So there's that.

Also, even though most (all?) of the albums from this era bore a "Produced by The Beach Boys" tag, some of the more recent collections have actually gone a bit more in depth and I'm pretty sure that a bunch of songs such as "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "I Went To Sleep", "Funky Pretty", "'Til I Die" and a few others were credited as "Produced by Brian & Carl Wilson". Now I might be wrong as I don't have any of the liner notes in front of me, but I'm pretty sure.

some of "Spring/American Spring", a strange version of "Why do fools fall in love", and apparently an unreleased country album..

Unfortunately for you Josh, the topic was "Between 1967 and 1976 what albums/songs did Brian produce for the Beach Boys?" and all the stuff you listed was non-Beach Boys. But helpful nonetheless I suppose.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 11:28:06 PM »

According to Peter Carlins book, Mess of Help was at least partially produced by Brian too, or at least he makes it sound as such.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 11:44:48 PM »

I'm pretty sure that a bunch of songs such as "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "I Went To Sleep", "Funky Pretty", "'Til I Die" and a few others were credited as "Produced by Brian & Carl Wilson". Now I might be wrong as I don't have any of the liner notes in front of me, but I'm pretty sure.

You are indeed correct sir.

Rumor has it he also produced a bunch of track for an unreleased 1967 post-Pet Sounds album... but hey, what do I know ?
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 11:52:55 PM »

Friends and Busy Doin' Nothin' come to mind.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2014, 12:40:58 AM »

I'm pretty sure that a bunch of songs such as "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "I Went To Sleep", "Funky Pretty", "'Til I Die" and a few others were credited as "Produced by Brian & Carl Wilson". Now I might be wrong as I don't have any of the liner notes in front of me, but I'm pretty sure.

You are indeed correct sir.

Rumor has it he also produced a bunch of track for an unreleased 1967 post-Pet Sounds album... but hey, what do I know ?

Oh yeah, the unreleased early Wild Honey!

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2014, 12:57:11 AM »

I'm pretty sure that a bunch of songs such as "Surf's Up", "This Whole World", "I Went To Sleep", "Funky Pretty", "'Til I Die" and a few others were credited as "Produced by Brian & Carl Wilson". Now I might be wrong as I don't have any of the liner notes in front of me, but I'm pretty sure.

You are indeed correct sir.

Rumor has it he also produced a bunch of track for an unreleased 1967 post-Pet Sounds album... but hey, what do I know ?

Oh yeah, the unreleased early Wild Honey!

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 01:10:00 AM »

That's MY unreleased album, dammit LOL LOL LOL
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2014, 01:18:03 AM »

Don't forget the big one - I'd Love Just Once to See You
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2014, 01:32:05 AM »

I don't know but I'd guess he produced the music bits of Mt. Vernon, at least to some extent?
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2014, 09:18:13 AM »

1966:
Good Vibrations

1967:
Heroes And Villains
You're Welcome
Fall Breaks... And Back To Winter
Vegetables

1968:
Wake The World
Diamond Head
Bust Doin' Nothin'
Transcendental Meditation
Do It Again (w/Carl)
Can't Wait Too Long

1969:
I Went To Sleep (w/Carl)
Cotton Fields (w/Alan)
Cabinessence (w/Carl)
Our Prayer
Break Away (w/Murry)
Games Two Can Play
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (w/Rick Henn)

1970:
This Whole World (w/Carl)
Cool, Cool Water

1971:
'Til I Die (w/Carl)
Surf's Up (w/Carl)

1972:
He Come Down (w/Carl)

1973:
Funky Pretty (w/Carl)
Mt. Vernon & Fairway (A Fairytale) (w/Carl)

1974:
Child Of Winter
We're Together Again
California Feeling

That's a rough list. Feel free to add.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2014, 09:32:06 AM »

1966:
Good Vibrations

1967:
Heroes And Villains
You're Welcome
Fall Breaks... And Back To Winter
Vegetables

1968:
Wake The World
Diamond Head
Bust Doin' Nothin'
Transcendental Meditation
Do It Again (w/Carl)
Can't Wait Too Long

1969:
I Went To Sleep (w/Carl)
Cotton Fields (w/Alan)
Cabinessence (w/Carl)
Our Prayer
Break Away (w/Murry)
Games Two Can Play
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (w/Rick Henn)

1970:
This Whole World (w/Carl)
Cool, Cool Water

1971:
'Til I Die (w/Carl)
Surf's Up (w/Carl)

1972:
He Come Down (w/Carl)

1973:
Funky Pretty (w/Carl)
Mt. Vernon & Fairway (A Fairytale) (w/Carl)

1974:
Child Of Winter
We're Together Again
California Feeling

That's a rough list. Feel free to add.


We're Together Again from 1974?  Did it get recorded again, I have not heard of this recording, only the one on the Friends-20/20 2fer.
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2014, 09:53:07 AM »

I expressed on the Hoffman board that although each were credited to the Beach Boys, my strong suspicion is that Brian produced all or nearly all of Smiley Smile, Wild Honey and Friends, maybe even one of the two Dennis tracks on the latter. Wasn't there an extensive mono mixing session (was it Be With Me or Little Bird?) for which Brian was said to be "at the helm"?
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2014, 09:54:27 AM »

And of course there's also Old Man River and Add Some Music.Walk On By? At least the Hawthorne version of Time To Get Alone.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2014, 11:03:14 AM »

What about A Day in the Life of a Tree?

Also, didn't he co-produce Sail On Sailor over the phone to some extent?
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2014, 11:16:43 AM »

We're Together Again from 1974?  Did it get recorded again, I have not heard of this recording, only the one on the Friends-20/20 2fer.

My bad, should be 1968. My excuses are...

I'm dog tired...
I'm pissed off...
I can barely hear.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2014, 12:54:44 AM »

What about A Day in the Life of a Tree?

Also, didn't he co-produce Sail On Sailor over the phone to some extent?

I've also thought that ADITLOAT is pure Brian production. Doesn't even play all the organ parts, or have I been misguided?
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2014, 12:57:32 AM »

...but anyway you count them, that's not a lot. Damn shame, he was pretty good at it whenever he got around to do it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2014, 01:30:02 AM »

...but anyway you count them, that's not a lot. Damn shame, he was pretty good at it whenever he got around to do it.

Personally I think he did some of his very best work in those years and maybe that's because he didn't have to come up with an album's worth of new material every couple of months. He clearly had lost some of his drive to be the leader of the group and maybe ideas weren't coming as easily or as quickly as before. Still, whenever he came up with something it was always totally brilliant. I mean, I Went to Sleep, 'Til I Die, Life of a Tree, Mess of Help, Mt. Vernon and Fairway... all this stuff is just incredibly unique!
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2014, 01:35:15 AM »

If they'd just release those darn Bedroom sessions (already)!
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2014, 03:05:51 AM »

You're right, Phirnis... But still! One of the greatest musical minds was creatively in his prime (at least qualitywise, if not volume) and he managed to finish only about three songs a year! Well, the guy was not well, but it IS a bit frustrating to think about.
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